kachina Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Micky Mellon is the only man we should consider to replace Del, exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 We needed defenders and midfielders we got strikers who dont play a winger who plays in the reserves no defenders we turned our nose up to Amougou and didn't replace Cissee except to bring in an over the hill midfielder who has added nothing to the fist team AND YOU DONT BLAME McInness....He was brought into fix problems not make them.. And he's not fixed the problems. But I don't really see how he's made them. He joined a team that couldn't score or defend and we're still a team that can't defend and (at the moment) can't score. So he's not fixed anything. But I don't really see that he's responsible for the fact we couldn't score or defend in the first place. We're where we were a year ago. That's definitely bad and McInnes had failed to achieve things and I suspect will leave the club this week. I completely understand that. But, as we were at the bottom when McInnes arrived, and getting thrashed every week, it's hard to actually say the existence of the problems is his fault - just that he's failed to fix them. So I don't blame him for the fact we are bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendlygas Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 But we ,like you have sacked loads of Managers as have many other clubs but it doesnt always work out. i must admit having seen you against us I( thought you would have a good season especially when you signed Baldock. There again I thought we would have turned it around by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Micky Mellon is the only man we should consider to replace Del, exactly what we need. Nah...like Del unproven at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 As unacceptable as results are, I think people need to take a step back and think about this 'Del is clueless' nonsense. We didn't score enough goals last season (since we came back to te championship actually) so he went out and got strikers. Aside from a few people who questioned the use of resources, no one complained about the signings of Baldock and Davies. We needed a left back, he went out and got a damn fine one. He seems to have tried his damnedest to get a centre half (Elliot Ward) but ultimately ended up with McManus. We needed a new keeper, he got one that everyone was very happy with. The form on the pitch has been poor and I think Del has made some poor decisions trying to fix it, but to say you'd tater have Millen or Tinnion? Nonsense. At least Del identified the problems even if he hasn't successfully remedied them. Something needs to change and it may well be McInnes, but I can't help thinking the number of managers we've had in recent years is a big part of the problems we're facing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 His job, and he knew what his job was, was to improve us, he hasn't, he has not carried out his side of the bargain. He knew what needed doing, he hasn't. We can blmae it on players. But if you cannot coach a defence to do the basics right, what hope do you have. The bloke is no coach or manager if he cannot even get the basics right. Sorry but the players are pros They should know the basics Its the PLAYERS who are getting the basics wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Just a thought, but how low is the standard in the SPL? I know Celtic beat Barca, but the rest seem to be about League One standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 That maybe the gayest thing i have ever read on this forum hope you have a change of pants when he starts talking on radio Haha I know it does sound a bit camp doesnt it but I was more on about a voice that just sounds like a man who's got authority. Husky voice which will make people listen, not some high pitched voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie_Turner Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The difference is, I couldn't give a flying duck what you think. Its not hard to know how you get sore hands though............. Keep slapping them on the floor in sheer frustration !!!!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 You always stick with mates. I am talking about the manager. I am much the same, i really don't care if he stays or goes, the club itself looks like its losing interest from Lansdown down,, I have really become numb to what happens over the past few years. What happens, happens, I really couldn't give two shites I watch my lads play Football and Rugby at weekends, it gives me far more enjoyment than watching City nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave60 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 You always stick with mates. I am talking about the manager. I am much the same, i really don't care if he stays or goes, the club itself looks like its losing interest from Lansdown down,, I have really become numb to what happens over the past few years. What happens, happens, I really couldn't give two shites i feel exactly the same after 60 bloody years of watching mediocre shit apart from a couple of years in the top league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Sorry but the players are pros They should know the basics Its the PLAYERS who are getting the basics wrong +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachina Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Nah...like Del unproven at this level So was Gary Johnson. But Mellon has turned a shit side into a good side, and one of the most improved teams in the country, on a very tight budget and has founds some really good buys. He seems clued up and comes across like a guy who won't stand for any shit. His teams football is not attractive but they get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I told you months ago the Merchant Venturers have decided the future of professional football in this area. Neither Bristol City nor Bristol Rovers fans will like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 'Livi' Red Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 As unacceptable as results are, I think people need to take a step back and think about this 'Del is clueless' nonsense. We didn't score enough goals last season (since we came back to te championship actually) so he went out and got strikers. Aside from a few people who questioned the use of resources, no one complained about the signings of Baldock and Davies. We needed a left back, he went out and got a damn fine one. He seems to have tried his damnedest to get a centre half (Elliot Ward) but ultimately ended up with McManus. We needed a new keeper, he got one that everyone was very happy with. The form on the pitch has been poor and I think Del has made some poor decisions trying to fix it, but to say you'd tater have Millen or Tinnion? Nonsense. At least Del identified the problems even if he hasn't successfully remedied them. Something needs to change and it may well be McInnes, but I can't help thinking the number of managers we've had in recent years is a big part of the problems we're facing now Spot on......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 His job, and he knew what his job was, was to improve us, he hasn't, he has not carried out his side of the bargain. He knew what needed doing, he hasn't. We can blmae it on players. But if you cannot coach a defence to do the basics right, what hope do you have. The bloke is no coach or manager if he cannot even get the basics right. You're right - he hasn't improved us and he's failed to do what needed doing. That's pretty clear. But I still think the bulk of the responsibility lies with the people who got us to the bottom of the table in the first place. I've worked in places before where the whole culture's so fundamentally flawed that even someone with good ideas and good leadership qualities struggles to turn it around. I'm not saying McInnes shouldn't be in danger of losing his job. His remit was to improve us and he hasn't improved us. But what I am saying is that a change of manager in itself isn't going to be the solution here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Micky Mellon is not the answer FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Sorry but the players are pros They should know the basics Its the PLAYERS who are getting the basics wrong Well replace them then, don't pick them. It seems his replacement that he has got in are no better apart from Cunningham, At the end of the day, he picks the players, buck stops there, he continues to pick a woefully out of form Fontaine.. all you need to know, you do not do that. The bloke is stubborn and can't adapt at all. As was proved last season wen he lucked out when his first choice load got recalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 i feel exactly the same after 60 bloody years of watching mediocre shit apart from a couple of years in the top league +1 I'm peed off wasting a sunny afternoon listening to this shite. If I'd gone down, I'd be suicidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Haha I know it does sound a bit camp doesnt it but I was more on about a voice that just sounds like a man who's got authority. Husky voice which will make people listen, not some high pitched voice oooooooooooooo Jordan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Your wit astounds me.... ...keep clapping matey ....all the way to league one with "Del" Glad you enjoy it, I know it doesn't take much. Is Del staying then, I was expecting you to be leading the charge on the changing rooms any minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric04 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Del has had the same probs as those managers before him. We cannot (or won't) compete financially with many clubs in this division. Millen tried and failed to sign Billy Jones and Gareth MacCauley - look at them now with WBA in the Prem. Del is at fault for using all of his small purse on strikers. Still think we will get a centre half in January and Stead will leave, but it may be too late for Del by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 As unacceptable as results are, I think people need to take a step back and think about this 'Del is clueless' nonsense. We didn't score enough goals last season (since we came back to te championship actually) so he went out and got strikers. Aside from a few people who questioned the use of resources, no one complained about the signings of Baldock and Davies. We needed a left back, he went out and got a damn fine one. He seems to have tried his damnedest to get a centre half (Elliot Ward) but ultimately ended up with McManus. We needed a new keeper, he got one that everyone was very happy with. The form on the pitch has been poor and I think Del has made some poor decisions trying to fix it, but to say you'd tater have Millen or Tinnion? Nonsense. At least Del identified the problems even if he hasn't successfully remedied them. Something needs to change and it may well be McInnes, but I can't help thinking the number of managers we've had in recent years is a big part of the problems we're facing now I completely agree and that's kind of what I'm trying to say. McInnes isn't getting things working and perhaps he deserves to go (or perhaps he'll go whether he deserves to or not) but he sure as hell isn't clueless and, as I say, I think he'll go on to show he can manage elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm not saying McInnes shouldn't be in danger of losing his job. His remit was to improve us and he hasn't improved us. But what I am saying is that a change of manager in itself isn't going to be the solution here... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 And he's not fixed the problems. But I don't really see how he's made them. He joined a team that couldn't score or defend and we're still a team that can't defend and (at the moment) can't score. So he's not fixed anything. But I don't really see that he's responsible for the fact we couldn't score or defend in the first place. We're where we were a year ago. That's definitely bad and McInnes had failed to achieve things and I suspect will leave the club this week. I completely understand that. But, as we were at the bottom when McInnes arrived, and getting thrashed every week, it's hard to actually say the existence of the problems is his fault - just that he's failed to fix them. So I don't blame him for the fact we are bottom of the league. Im not sure I follow your logic! He accepted the job with a mandate and failed. He has spent millions on players that dont play and ignored the obvious frailties....however lets not fall out...we are shit and we know we are and something has to change immediately!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom from sunny side Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Haha I know it does sound a bit camp doesnt it but I was more on about a voice that just sounds like a man who's got authority. Husky voice which will make people listen, not some high pitched voice A husky voice would sort out all our problems? Is that the way forward?Perhaps Del should start puffing on the Woodbines and grargling sand....get real deep and husky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 You're right - he hasn't improved us and he's failed to do what needed doing. That's pretty clear. But I still think the bulk of the responsibility lies with the people who got us to the bottom of the table in the first place. I've worked in places before where the whole culture's so fundamentally flawed that even someone with good ideas and good leadership qualities struggles to turn it around. I'm not saying McInnes shouldn't be in danger of losing his job. His remit was to improve us and he hasn't improved us. But what I am saying is that a change of manager in itself isn't going to be the solution here... it might have escaped your notice DMC has had a year to clear the failures out and he hasn't in fact he has done exactly what the last 2 managers did, stubbornly put his faith in these failures, he is signing his own death warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Glad you enjoy it, I know it doesn't take much. Is Del staying then, I was expecting you to be leading the charge on the changing rooms any minute. Waste of time....people like you will be laying your bodies on the line protecting him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I told you months ago the Merchant Venturers have decided the future of professional football in this area. We're playing more like a bunch of 'merchant bankers' at the moment. Remember, apart from Cunningham, these are essentially the same players who started the season so brightly, playing attractive football. Confidence has just been utterly shattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 :grr: :grr: And **** the bloody rugby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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