ballwinningcentrehalf Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Ah the tears taste so sweet this morning. Actually feel so sorry for Legia, they put in two fantastic performances and shouldn't have been let down by their administration like this, but the rules are very clear and this was seemingly the only outcome. Credit to the UEFA delegate at the game who noticed and pursued the error. Celtic are still terrible at the moment but even getting pumped again sees us fall straight into the Europa League so it could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Looking at the full judgement, this is a very technical decision, the guy sat out 3 games of a ban, but UEFA are saying he wasn't registered for those games, strange. But as long as the real cheats are allowed to prosper, that's ok. Had a feeling it was something more complicated like this. However I still feel they should have known and I still feel the match officials should have known. Right decision that they are awarded a 3-0 defeat but should never have got to that point. Poor from Legia and UEFA IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Warsaw have appealed and Celtic go throught to the next quilfing stage not the group stage, they have been entered into the champions section so can't be paired with Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alex_BCFC Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 yes and my point is they been put straight through into the group stage! No they haven't From BBC: Celtic are now seeded for the play-off draw and can face Ludogorets of Bulgaria, Maribor of Slovenia, Slovan Bratislava of Slovakia, Malmo of Sweden or Denmark's Aalborg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 No they haven't From BBC:Celtic are now seeded for the play-off draw and can face Ludogorets of Bulgaria, Maribor of Slovenia, Slovan Bratislava of Slovakia, Malmo of Sweden or Denmark's Aalborg.it was saying on sky that they was straight through but they changed it now or I can't read very well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Arsenal drawn away to Besiktas tasty draw and quite a tough one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TinnionForEngland Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I don't think Arsenal's draw is tough atall, they easily beat a much better team in Fenerbache recently to reach the Champions League and we all saw how bad Galatasaray were against Chelsea, gunners to sail through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Legia Warsaw are not happy - not happy at all. The Polish club's chairman Dariusz Mioduski vows to "fight" Uefa's decision to kick them out of the Champions League, with Celtic taking their place, for fielding an ineligible player. "Today, the sport lost behind closed doors. We made a mistake, sorry, but the penalty is disproportionate. Stay with us. We fight on," Mioduski he says on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 What makes this decision totally reprehensible is an action that had no bearing on a game is punished and actions by cheats that every week have a complete bearing on games go totally unpunished, the game has gone mad. But should we be surprised of course not, exactly how many retrospective decisions were made during the world cup?, just the one as far as I remember and that was sort of out of their hands because of the media storm and as we speak the little shit is appealing and will probably get a ban reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 (In reply to Monkeh) Not surprised at all. Was an amazing result for them and to be kicked out for a player appearing for a couple of minutes when the tie was dead must be unbelievably painful. Also wonder how their captain feels this morning knowing if he'd scored just one of the two penalties he missed in the first leg they'd still be going through. However, disproportionate though it might seem, it is their error and theirs alone. All because of a name not on a piece of paper. Painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 To be honest I think it proves how mickey mouse some of the teams in the qualifying are. This sort of thing seems to happen on a alarmingly regular basis. The fact that they hammered Celtic shows how down and out Scottish football is becoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 For someone who played 3minutes Footballs a joke Yes but rules are rules. A bit like saying "Yes Officer I was doing 70mph in a 30 limit but it was only for 3 minutes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Yes but rules are rules. A bit like saying "Yes Officer I was doing 70mph in a 30 limit but it was only for 3 minutes". Should n't this be on the "Stockhausen" thread Tone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Yes but rules are rules. A bit like saying "Yes Officer I was doing 70mph in a 30 limit but it was only for 3 minutes". Unfortunately Tone in football there are a lot of rules and quite a few are totally ignored by the authorities and they not only spoil the game but also bring the game into disrepute, especially when pathetic decisions like this are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Stupid from Legia; they've only got themselves to blame. Lucky, lucky Celtic. Don't see them progressing any further, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 i don't think its quite as clear cut as they are thinking, The player in question had a 3 match ban, he missed the home and away tie against st pats and the home tie against celtic so Warsaw thought his ban was up, UEFA have said he wasn't registered in the squad so therefore didn't serve his ban, my question is, if the player was banned why would he have to be registered in the match squad? I think warsaw have good grounds for appeal here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 i don't think its quite as clear cut as they are thinking, The player in question had a 3 match ban, he missed the home and away tie against st pats and the home tie against celtic so Warsaw thought his ban was up, UEFA have said he wasn't registered in the squad so therefore didn't serve his ban, my question is, if the player was banned why would he have to be registered in the match squad? I think warsaw have good grounds for appeal here They were always going to appeal , odd if they didn't. I guess from UEFA's point of view if he wasn't registered he couldn't play and so couldn't 'miss' the game to be counted as suspended. I agree with you though , odd thinking you have to register a player so he can't play. Wouldn't be surprised whichever way the appeal goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Should n't this be on the "Stockhausen" thread Tone ? Nah. Or should that be nee, nah, nee, nah, nee, nah - "hello officer, was I really going that fast?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 i don't think its quite as clear cut as they are thinking, The player in question had a 3 match ban, he missed the home and away tie against st pats and the home tie against celtic so Warsaw thought his ban was up, UEFA have said he wasn't registered in the squad so therefore didn't serve his ban, my question is, if the player was banned why would he have to be registered in the match squad? I think warsaw have good grounds for appeal here Depends what they mean by 'registered'. Don't know the ins and outs of football administration like this but as 1960maan said If he's not registered for a match then how can he miss it. I know it's very picky but still sounds like an administration error from Legia. Schoolboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'll never understand any fan that wants to display a foreign flag ahead of their own national one (by that I mean Scottish flag, no the Union one, and I don't need a history lesson, I know all about it). Scottish Premier League Champions, and I have NEVER seen a Saltire, or Rampant Lion ANYWHERE in their shitty ground. Can understand the Saltire, but they dont even have green saltires just bloody Irish Tricolours....kick em out of the Scottish League, put em in the Eire League, thats what the flags are... and get me going on the anti rememberance day stuff their shitty fans pulled aa few years back. Even Irish people are as obsessively sectarian as Celtic are.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I've never understood the need to register a player for a competition If he's signed to that club, surely he can play? As others have said, rules are rules. Incredibly lucky break for Celtic, lets hope they don't make the most of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Barcelona are making sure that Suarez is registered pdq. They are registering his teeth separately. Has Suarez negotiated a separate imaging rights contract for his nashers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 This 3-0 'fine' for fielding an ineligible player does seem standard, but rather random. Did not Leeds some years back lose away 3-0, got awarded the home one 3-0 for the same reasons, and had to play a decider? Does beg the question, If you had won one leg 4-0 and it came out for the second leg, why should you still go through? Putting Celtic to one side, always seemed to be more logical that if you get done on this, its just cleaner to say the other team goes through, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Does beg the question, If you had won one leg 4-0 and it came out for the second leg, why should you still go through?Correct. In the early years of Euro competition one team won 7-3 at home and then lost the return leg 7-2 and were out. If they had fielded an illegible player for the return leg they'd have won 7-6 on aggregate instead due to the punishment of a 3-0 defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Correct. In the early years of Euro competition one team won 7-3 at home and then lost the return leg 7-2 and were out. If they had fielded an illegible player for the return leg they'd have won 7-6 on aggregate instead due to the punishment of a 3-0 defeat. I'm not sure the 3-0 punishment would be enforced if they had lost the game by more than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'm not sure the 3-0 punishment would be enforced if they had lost the game by more than that!Why? The rules state the punishment is a 3-0 defeat. I'm sure some unscrupulous team may remember that (and remind their lawyers of the precedent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Piss take decision to reinstate Celtic. The punishment is ludicrously disproportionate. What a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wardy Returns Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Do you know what, Fans and their second teams can F&ck off - i have absolutely no interest in Celtic FC, Legia Warsaw, Real Madrid, Manchester United or Rangers FC for that matter. Bristol City FC and England are all that matter. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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