Fordy62 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Couple of points. Crime is falling globally (there are various theories why) so it might be the case that we can get away with less police officers. Crime is falling. Would you like me to tell you why? Because the Tories introduced 'Action Fraud' a body that records fraud taking it away from the police. They record, they don't investigate and it's no longer being classed as crime. Guess which type of crime of booming? Crime fallen? Ridiculous. Policing is very nearly on its knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 It's great where I live. They've marked all the houses where ******* live with these little blue sign so you can avoid them. Thanks Mendip! That's a real public information service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Crime is falling. Would you like me to tell you why? Because the Tories introduced 'Action Fraud' a body that records fraud taking it away from the police. They record, they don't investigate and it's no longer being classed as crime. Guess which type of crime of booming? Crime fallen? Ridiculous. Policing is very nearly on its knees. The clue is in the title 'recorded crime', so much that the average Joe considers to be a crime is no longer considered a crime, so not recorded and of course Mr Blair started that particular policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cider_boy Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 The clue is in the title 'recorded crime', so much that the average Joe considers to be a crime is no longer considered a crime, so not recorded and of course Mr Blair started that particular policy. Except the falling crime figures aren't just in this country, and violent crime in particular is recorded as falling, both in official stats and polls of peoples perception. The link between removing lead from petrol and violent crime falling something like 20 years later is very compelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 i give the country a lot of credit,looks like people realise labour are a spent force,will always rule down these parts tho cuz we got to my lazy aholes scoffing up the benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Well, ho hum, very disappointed, but not entirely surprised. Labour has to now think long and hard. A shift to the left simply will not work. In historic terms this is a pretty weak Government, and I really did not sense any great excitement for any in truth in this election. Labour have seemed happy over the last few years to keep their heads down, and let the Tories lose it. Just no sense of any great vision. Ed may have been deep down a decent person, but really, what connects him to the average progressive aspirational working person, wants a Goverment to do something about it, supports a meritocracy rather then a widening of the wealth gap, and believes in a strong sense of social justice? To many could just not see him as PM. Heresay I know from somebody left of centre, but while his life experiences are very different from my own, I do think Cameron is more impressive, and arguably deep down a one nation Tory. Will be interesting to see how he now manages the Tory right. It is what it is. A centre right Goverment. I do hope that its centre of gravity does not drift further, and the EU referendum will be a real test for them. Ultimately, we are a democracy. Accept the result, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Except the falling crime figures aren't just in this country, and violent crime in particular is recorded as falling, both in official stats and polls of peoples perception. The link between removing lead from petrol and violent crime falling something like 20 years later is very compelling it doesn't help that in the week where a woman in Worcester complained to Police about wolf whistled at by a man on a building site and the police found the time to send 2 officers to investigate and interview a man, my granddaughters boyfriend was assaulted requiring hospital treatment and it took the police 7 days to come to see him for a statement and several years ago my grandson was deliberately knocked off of his scooter by kids driving a car, resulting in a serious leg injury requiring 12 months of treatment including skin grafts and not only did the police not initially bother to interview him but even claimed that it was not even an offence, my daughter complained saying would have been a crime had he been killed and she was accused of being flippant, when an officer eventually did come to interview him he admitted the reason for trying not to record it as a crime was that it unlikely ever to be a cleared crime FFS, that's Avon & Someshit for you and of course they had the 2nd worst record in the country for not recording some serious crimes including rapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 As an old style Labour voter when they used to represent the working class, I cannot get enthused with this Labour party at all. For me to ever vote for them again they needed to show they were different to the Tories, the SNP activists had it bang on with their Red Tories banners. This lot looks and behaves the same as the Nasty party as they like to portray them. Where were the brave policies of dragging the working class out of poverty, UKIP had a good policy of removing the tax from the lowest incomes completely, Labour could have done similar, they could have reduced VAT that they were supposedly against, they could have introduced a tax for those folk who could afford second homes. In the end they pretty much were doing everything the Tories were doing right down to matching them pound for pound on the NHS, which was supposed to be some kind of vote winner. So voters were thinking if it looks like Tory, then we may as well just vote for them and carry on as we were. There was nothing in it for me to drag me out and stick an X by Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Couldn't agree more it's about time that life on benefits was stopped as a career choice. Get a job then, at least 8 million other people with jobs are also on benefits as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Crime is falling. Would you like me to tell you why? Because the Tories introduced 'Action Fraud' a body that records fraud taking it away from the police. They record, they don't investigate and it's no longer being classed as crime. Guess which type of crime of booming? Crime fallen? Ridiculous. Policing is very nearly on its knees. It's going to be on it's ankles in a short while. The cuts to come are going to decimate the Police force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Except the falling crime figures aren't just in this country, and violent crime in particular is recorded as falling, both in official stats and polls of peoples perception. The link between removing lead from petrol and violent crime falling something like 20 years later is very compelling Very true, I read about the difference in people's attitudes etc since lead free paint was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 i give the country a lot of credit,looks like people realise labour are a spent force,will always rule down these parts tho cuz we got to my lazy aholes scoffing up the benefits You have some kind of affixation with people out of work/ Labour, and laziness don't you. Do you constantly watch Tory propaganda videos, or have you actually got any real evidence to back up your boring constant claim about the unemployed being lazy. I have a neighbour who does fck all and is a right lazy cow,she doesn't work, but she's had Tory posters in her front garden for the last 3 weeks. I can send you some photos if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come on Eileen Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 You have some kind of affixation with people out of work/ Labour, and laziness don't you. Do you constantly watch Tory propaganda videos, or have you actually got any real evidence to back up your boring constant claim about the unemployed being lazy. I have a neighbour who does fck all and is a right lazy cow,she doesn't work, but she's had Tory posters in her front garden for the last 3 weeks. I can send you some photos if you want. If she's self supporting what's her lifestyle got to do with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 You have some kind of affixation with people out of work/ Labour, and laziness don't you. Do you constantly watch Tory propaganda videos, or have you actually got any real evidence to back up your boring constant claim about the unemployed being lazy. I have a neighbour who does fck all and is a right lazy cow,she doesn't work, but she's had Tory posters in her front garden for the last 3 weeks. I can send you some photos if you want. she's getting paid for it so fair play to her,I would worry if I was you,she will have peters steak and kidney pies next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 In my job I drive round Bristol bill,knowle west and southmead have their labour flags out,and they are outside havvvving a fag,obviously don't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Unless they are stealing at night of course,sorry ment working at night,I've put my tin hat on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 In my job I drive round Bristol bill,knowle west and southmead have their labour flags out,and they are outside havvvving a fag,obviously don't work Unless they are stealing at night of course,sorry ment working at night,I've put my tin hat on You need to be a bit less obvious if you really want people to argue with you about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why would people argue with me about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Think you missed the tin hat comment iamnick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why would people argue with me about it Must be tough on the hairline all that forelock tugging to the rich folks. Still at least you've given them a good laugh in their untaxed mansions at the thought that some bloke with a driving job is so brainwashed by the constant propaganda from their pet papers about benefit scroungers that he voted against his own economic interests. Fact 1: There are fewer than 50,000 long-term unemployed in the entire country. Fact 2: The money lost to the state from tax avoidance by wealthy individuals and corporations is 280 times greater than the money lost because of benefit fraud. And that's using government figures - other sources put it higher. I'll leave you to ponder that, and the fact that all these "lazy" people smoking fags outside their homes in Southmead are doing so under a Tory government not a Labour one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why do so many people see some imaginary class war that really isn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why do so many people see some imaginary class war that really isn't there? Quite. Why do so many people fixate on the idea of a Jeremy Kyle watching, benefit scrounging "under-class" when the real thieves wear pinstripe suits and carry briefcases? Beats me, Aussie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I just don't share your fixation on this notion of a class war where the "Rich" get away with murder while the rest of us slave away for nothing. I just don't share it or see it. It's a classic politics of envy - tried and tested enough times by some and often fails. I think life is pretty good, I think the country is in far better shape than the mess left in 2010 and I think the result reflected that - a CON majority much better than a LAB party shorn up by SNP support - which would have been a nightmare with potential socialist policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 By the way I watch the occasional Jeremy Kyle now and again because I find it quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I just don't share your fixation on this notion of a class war where the "Rich" get away with murder while the rest of us slave away for nothing. I just don't share it or see it. It's a classic politics of envy - tried and tested enough times by some and often fails. I think life is pretty good, I think the country is in far better shape than the mess left in 2010 and I think the result reflected that - a CON majority much better than a LAB party shorn up by SNP support - which would have been a nightmare with potential socialist policies. Nightmare for you possibly as you'd have to pay a bit more of your six-figure salary in tax. Less so for the vast majority of people. Incidentally, do you think a Tory government "shorn up" by Northern Irish parties is not a problem? Cameron only needs six of his MPs to be ill, out-the-country or rebelling to lose votes. A true blue like you must hate the taxation black hole that is the Six Counties, with its 60% of the population dependent on the state for their income. I wonder where Gideon's next budget cuts might fall the most lightly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 By the way I watch the occasional Jeremy Kyle now and again because I find it quite funny. As long as you realise that many of the participants are actors and those that aren't are "styled" by Kyle's production team, nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yeah but it's just entertainment. No harm in it. Even if some of them are real as long as they don't live near me I'll watch and laugh at it. I have no issue with the Ulster Unionists backing up the CON majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I think I pay more than enough in tax to know I am contributing to this country. I lose no sleep there. I just had the issue with LAB attacking me to plaster over their spending holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 His majority is bigger than 6 in real terms. 331 on a pass line of 322? Speaker doesn't vote and SF has 4 MPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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