samo II Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Another Saturday, another bad defeat, level on points and goal difference with the bottom side, and only one game left in September.At least one poster on another topic as broached the possibility of SC changing things fast or us getting shot of him, so thought I'd throw the question to the floor on its own thread...Where's the line? Is anyone of a mind we've got the wrong man in the hot seat? At what point and under what conditions would that situation arise for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 For me he's got all season and next. Fed up with chopping and changing. I dont blame him for giving the formation a try up to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 We can't keep chopping and changing. He needs support from the fans right to the boardroom although if push came to shove reckon he'd walk before being given his p45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrobin Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 For me he's got all season and next. Fed up with chopping and changing. I dont blame him for giving the formation a try up to this point. Totally agree bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 We can't keep chopping and changing. He needs support from the fans right to the boardroom although if push came to shove reckon he'd walk before being given his p45. when was the last manager you remember that has walked...if you stick around to your p45 you get a lovely pay off...resigning simply does not happen anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yeah lets do a Watford, 5 managers later and we will be in the Premier League no worries. I mean Steve only got us the League 1 title and the JPT last season, it's not like he did anything special. So there's no need to stick by him. Is Ollie about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Stupid question In all seriousness though the bloke walked in to one of the most abject and pathetic sides I have ever seen, one which at the time I thought was weeks away from causing myself an extended break, and turned them around to finish 10th and led the club to its only title and although Mickey Mouse, the JPT to boot. Why would we even entertain the idea that someone else could be a better option given how he's performed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well I've mentioned on here before that, whilst some players are released when clubs get promoted because they aren't deemed good enough for the level above, I can't understand why managers are always given the chance at the higher level.When will a club be brave enough to say 'thanks for guiding us to promotion Mr Manager but we don't think you can do it in the division above so we are letting you go' ???Not saying Cotts should necessarily have been treated like this but we had the chance to build on some serious momentum after last season and with the stadium rebuild and it looked woeful today. I'm not in serious panic mode yet but interested to know any thoughts on whether we should have perhaps looked at managers with serious track records of getting out of this tough tough division back in June/July as well as new players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrobin Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Stupid question In all seriousness though the bloke walked in to one of the most abject and pathetic sides I have ever seen, one which at the time I thought was weeks away from causing myself an extended break, and turned them around to finish 10th and led the club to its only title and although Mickey Mouse, the JPT to boot. Why would we even entertain the idea that someone else could be a better option given how he's performed? People have to short a memory or no patients, we continuity not uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 No way. He's a part of Bristol city now and is a top manager. I can see what he I'd trying to do and it us risky and has not paid off. And I don't think it will playing this way alk season, but I think we're building something and he's part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hopefully that is the last game he'll play the same formation otherwise he will be falling into the tried and tested Dummies guide of how to get a football manager sacked.A certain other manager we had was blinded with the process and performances rather than end product, my fear is Cotterill will back into a corner and refuse to budge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well I've mentioned on here before that, whilst some players are released when clubs get promoted because they aren't deemed good enough for the level above, I can't understand why managers are always given the chance at the higher level.When will a club be brave enough to say 'thanks for guiding us to promotion Mr Manager but we don't think you can do it in the division above so we are letting you go' ???Not saying Cotts should necessarily have been treated like this but we had the chance to build on some serious momentum after last season and with the stadium rebuild and it looked woeful today. I'm not in serious panic mode yet but interested to know any thoughts on whether we should have perhaps looked at managers with serious track records of getting out of this tough tough division back in June/July as well as new players? because the manager orchestrated the success? I get your logic but your manager is your 'individual of the season'. I think to draw a true parallel you'd be talking about releasing your top performing player than your squaddie in which case it sounds odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevep38 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Even though I back him. One has to wonder how long he has as we all know it's a results buisness and we're not getting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 We have had some bad results but this was the first bad performance so I am not ready to pull the trigger by a long chalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Personally for me I could not think of anything worse than getting rid of Cotts. However, such is the nature of modern football the longer this goes on the more fans will turn against him. I genuinely believe we are going to be fine this season, I just hope the fans are patient enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 if he has anything to do with the inept transfer policy chasing a striker for example when it was clear we needed defenders and midfielders first then he should go now But it seems as if his hands were tied so I'd give him another 5 games and see whats going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Definitely no way to Cotts getting the sack.He gave us the greatest season that I can ever remember in my lifetime.The players are the ones who need to buck up. Agree that the 3-5-2 needs to go as we don't have the personnel to do it successfully at this level, but I don't see that he has lost the dressing room yet by any stretch.We will know when he has because the players will simply not turn up until he gets replaced, and that hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted September 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 To clarify; wasn't saying I think SC should go, only thought that as another poster had made mention of perhaps him being moved on if things don't pick up, then I thought it might have been interesting to see people's thoughts.Personally; think having SC leave any time soon would be an error - as my own 'ideal' for this year was simply staying up, only if we look to be out of touch of safety at the tail end would I even consider it an option, and even then things would have to be utterly dire performance-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 if he has anything to do with the inept transfer policy chasing a striker for example when it was clear we needed defenders and midfielders first then he should go now But it seems as if his hands were tied so I'd give him another 5 games and see whats going onAnd then we got said defenders. 2 from the premier league, one having a bunch of games and another u-21 talent. How did that go? I will be surprised if Moore and Baker play next time out, depending on how long Baker is injured for. Both have been poor, and our original 3 are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 if he has anything to do with the inept transfer policy chasing a striker for example when it was clear we needed defenders and midfielders first then he should go now But it seems as if his hands were tied so I'd give him another 5 games and see whats going on5 games? So our board should already be identifying potential targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 It's not his fault the board won't pay the going rate for wages. We have a good L1 team that needs some quality additions to make us competitive in this league. You get what you pay for simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Poor results to the end of October and I expect the more reactionary fans to be openly calling for him to go. Personally if City are bottom by January, and show little sign of competing he'll be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 While removing Cotts is a daft idea at the mo, his stubborn refusal to line up with anything but 352 does worry me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well I've mentioned on here before that, whilst some players are released when clubs get promoted because they aren't deemed good enough for the level above, I can't understand why managers are always given the chance at the higher level.When will a club be brave enough to say 'thanks for guiding us to promotion Mr Manager but we don't think you can do it in the division above so we are letting you go' ???Not saying Cotts should necessarily have been treated like this but we had the chance to build on some serious momentum after last season and with the stadium rebuild and it looked woeful today. I'm not in serious panic mode yet but interested to know any thoughts on whether we should have perhaps looked at managers with serious track records of getting out of this tough tough division back in June/July as well as new players? You might get some flack for this, and I'm not saying that Cotts should be sacked, but it makes sense. Southampton had success with Nigel Adkins, but when they reached the Premiership he was promptly sacked. This may have seemed harsh at the time but, based on results, it was the correct decision. Cotts has got to prove that he can sort it out and if he can't, unfortunately, he'll have to be replaced. Steve Lansdown won't want to have the best ground in league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 I'm greatful for last season and that buys him a little time. But I am simply not prepared to get relegated because he won us the league last year. I don't think we should get rid of him just yet. He has a little more time to turn things around. I've gone from being a massuve fan of Cotts to now being on the fence. My support for him can go either way it just depends on if he makes changes and the results come our way.Maybe he just isn't cut out for the Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Red Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Cotts is a winner and will get it right.Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger10 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Is this a joke post?FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Time for Cotts to earn his corn and (as I said last week) make some hard decisions. It's what he is paid for.With the performances today he has to make changes but he looks (as mentioned by someone else in the week) he is way too stubborn. This was pretty evident in his after match interview - almost like he watches a different game to us every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 wow??? Cotts out thread in September!! truly pathetic. Can't even believe in replying to this. He like players will take time to settle in at championship. But I'm not naive, thought players and manger gad a stinker today. No plan b from cotterill today. But one bad day and a bad summer doesn't mean the sack. Hes got all season for me. Staying up is all that counts this season. Today was awful, but every other game we've been more than involved in chances etc. This is first game where we have looked outclassed and clueless. Get behind the team. Its going to be a long season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 I predicted there would be a ridiculous Cotts out thread by Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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