Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[Monkeh]

1 hour ago, RedRock said:

That list excludes the all important 2019 ‘stadium’ improvement of fixing a fibreglass porch canopy over a (single) door entrance to one of the Club rooms. They actually published a photograph of this monumental achievement.

Give Wally some credit FFS. Tinpot they are not. 

Surprise considering only spurs carried out more ground improvements then them that season

[Open End Numb Legs]

1 hour ago, myol'man said:

Do they really need a new, modern, high tech ticketing system to get 8,000 home fans into a mostly terraced old rugby ground?

 

https://verifiedfootballupdate.com/rovers-announce-new-access-system-partnership/?fbclid=IwAR2UAyPEmuJgWs4EsTsQHUHtsSPLkCa0XSr98iYwsTaTN30uzHjh_QJbhGw

 

*edit, Dave says the £10 cash only gate will still be available 

Come on, they need the best access system available to get those 30,000 locked out, through the gates and seated into that new stand that doesn't exist. That would be worth every penny to achieve miracles like that.

[JackofromSanJavier]

5 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

From that link.....

"Bristol ****** join an illustrious list of stadiums that operate using an Axess and Ticketmaster partnership, with the Hard Rock Stadium, Miami – home of the Dolphins – and Miami F1 Grand Prix in the US being a flagship client. 

Rovers will be hoping that it can deliver an NFL matchday experience level to its own fans next season. "

 

Not like them to liken themselves to something way out of their league. Having said that I hope the day never comes when we aspire to be like the NFL!

NFL experience……….Not F'in Likely

[Open End Numb Legs]

NFL - non football league.

[Bristol Rob]

Would I be right in thinking that evening if they haven't been given planning permission for their new stand yet, they can still use it pending approval, as long as SAG give it the safety cert it needs?

[Monkeh]

17 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Would I be right in thinking that evening if they haven't been given planning permission for their new stand yet, they can still use it pending approval, as long as SAG give it the safety cert it needs?

SAG can't give it approval as it doesn't have planning permission therefore is an illegal structure which for all SAG knows doesn't meet the basic needs of planning requirements

[1960maaan]

8 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

SAG can't give it approval as it doesn't have planning permission therefore is an illegal structure which for all SAG knows doesn't meet the basic needs of planning requirements

Can I just quote our recent guest.

On 28/06/2023 at 11:40, Former Pirate said:

The one positive is that I know someone in the planning department of BCC and it definitely has been submitted. Not sure on exact date though and their portal is abysmal for updating things. 
 

Either way they aren’t getting approval this side of September absolute best case. 

Does the application have to show on the site, I still can't see anything.

[Lanterne Rouge]

13 hours ago, BCFC11 said:

Don’t forget the new canopy for the bar entrance he splashed out on

In deference to their standing in world football I think that this should be referred to as the Canopy Neu.

[Topper 123]

Don’t you just love these doughnuts 

[ExiledAjax]

8 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

Don’t you just love these doughnuts 

Our fanbase is so small that we could fill their "stadium" only 1.5x with our season ticket holders alone (about 14,500 STs in a ground of 9,800 capacity). Their season ticket holders... wouldn't even fill the South Stand (about 5,000 STs in a stand of 6,000).

Edited June 30, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[RedRaw]

Here you go…..

https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=RSQK1RDNKSY00

tha back of the fag packet application is in…..official objection from the local neighbourhood group already in

 

[Swede]

looks like the away fans on that 5hitty little bit of side terracing are further away from the turgid action, what a godsend!

[BCFC11]

The local residents clearly not happy with the way R*vers are going about it (trying to bully their way through PP etc)

[Kodjias Wrist]

49 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

Don’t you just love these doughnuts 

Mental. All the gasheads, young and old admit freely City was always bigger in every way.

[Taz]

5 hours ago, Bas's perfect hattrick said:

I'm guessing Axess and Ticketmaster might not be adding the gas to their promotional literature

Ticketmaster to control the thousands that are wanting tickets? That'll be the next excuse when they only get 6549 on a Saturday - ticketmaster fudged up and didn't get the tickets out in time.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

1 hour ago, Magger1 said:

Don’t you just love these doughnuts 

“Not much in fanbase size” 

We’re certainly not a huge club but they haven’t even averaged over 10k in a season for 45 years. Can’t even fill their tiny ground.

Wael arrived 7 years ago at which point they were all shouting that they were going to be Premier League in 5 years…

Hows that going? 

******* state of them, should concentrate on catching up with Exeter and Cheltenham.

[glynriley]

1 hour ago, Magger1 said:

Don’t you just love these doughnuts 

I know they love their football club and want what's best for them, but surely they can't all believe the shit they spout..?

It's like watching your son or daughter play football and thinking he's Lionel Messi when in reality they're more like Lionel Blair.

Bunch of oddballs.

 

Edited June 30, 2023 by glynriley

[GreedyHarry]

1 hour ago, BCFC11 said:

The local residents clearly not happy with the way R*vers are going about it (trying to bully their way through PP etc)

Well from what little I know of the law they’ve already breached one about undertaking construction works prior to 0730 and one about not ripping down trees between May and September.

As that’s documented I’d hope that the appropriate authorities deal with them.

 

[NOTBLUE]

39 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

“Not much in fanbase size” 

We’re certainly not a huge club but they haven’t even averaged over 10k in a season for 45 years. Can’t even fill their tiny ground.

Wael arrived 7 years ago at which point they were all shouting that they were going to be Premier League in 5 years…

Hows that going? 

******* state of them, should concentrate on catching up with Exeter and Cheltenham.

They’ll never be as big as Cheltenham or Exeter.

[NcnsBcfc]

21 hours ago, bert tann said:

Our in house barrister.

Admittedly third hand information but I'm told the capacity of the stand could be limited to approximately 1400 until permission is granted which may take up to a year and even then would not necessarily be for the requested number. Any breach of the safety certificate requirements could well result in the services of Mr Csoka being called upon.   

Is that the same Simon Csoka KC who represented Barton in his two trials? The club certainly keep him busy.

No doubt he'll now be employed for a certain centre forward at the club who is in Court next week as well?

[glynriley]

4 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Is that the same Simon Csoka KC who represented Barton in his two trials? The club certainly keep him busy.

No doubt he'll now be employed for a certain centre forward at the club who is in Court next week as well?

Figures...

Simon specialises in all aspects of criminal law, in particular homicide, serious fraud and organised crime

https://www.lincolnhousechambers.com/members/simon-csoka-q-c

[Miah Dennehy]

3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Our fanbase is so small that we could fill their "stadium" only 1.5x with our season ticket holders alone (about 14,500 STs in a ground of 9,800 capacity). Their season ticket holders... wouldn't even fill the South Stand (about 5,000 STs in a stand of 6,000).

Some of our potential season ticket holders had trouble with Ticketmaster and were in effect 'locked out' . Out true STH base would be closer to 15,000

[NcnsBcfc]

2 hours ago, TomF said:

aaand if by magic

 

If they ram that through in less than two months they'll be wide open to a JR I'd imagine. 

So given the determination date is 3 weeks after the start of the season and they haven't even started building it yet, where are they going to put all the supporters that have bought ST's in this non-existent stand???

[Bristol Rob]

Just now, NcnsBcfc said:

So given the determination date is 3 weeks after the start of the season and they haven't even started building it yet, where are they going to put all the supporters that have bought ST's in this non-existent stand???

Plenty of room in row M.

[NcnsBcfc]

2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Plenty of room in row M.

Of which Tent/stand?

[BCFC11]

I can't wait to see this 'concourse' of theirs.

[1960maaan]

8 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

I can't wait to see this 'concourse' of theirs.

Probably a better view of the Concourse than the Goal, what with all those Stanchions in the way.
Still, I guess having a restricted view ticket out there is a bonus 

[ExiledAjax]

47 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Some of our potential season ticket holders had trouble with Ticketmaster and were in effect 'locked out' . Out true STH base would be closer to 15,000

Illiteracy can be a terrible curse with unforeseen impact.

Edited June 30, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[myol'man]

Planning objection;

I strongly object to having another 2,500 people singing that awful Irene dirge right next to my back garden 

[Ska Junkie]

3 hours ago, Magger1 said:

Don’t you just love these doughnuts 

'NOT MUCH IN FAN BASE SIZE'?

We average 20000+ while they average a lot less than half of that.

Magger, you're a deluded doughnut!

[Bristol Rob]

24 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

I can't wait to see this 'concourse' of theirs.

It's a Con (of) course.

[steviestevieneville]

3 hours ago, RedRaw said:

Here you go…..

https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=RSQK1RDNKSY00

tha back of the fag packet application is in…..official objection from the local neighbourhood group already in

 

Looks like a subbuteo stand . Some of that lot getting excited by it though

[The Gasbuster]

19 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Looks like a subbuteo stand . Some of that lot getting excited by it though

And to think they designated the AG redevelopment as the “Trashton Tart Up”

Wanchors.

[Barrs Court Red]

How does one put in some comedy objections make a public comment?

[Lanterne Rouge]

22 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

How does one put in some comedy objections make a public comment?

Newts. Newts are the way to go - mind you, what self respecting amphibian would risk living in that toxic dump so it may not work.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, Ska Junkie said:

'NOT MUCH IN FAN BASE SIZE'?

We average 20000+ while they average a lot less than half of that.

Magger, you're a deluded doughnut!

Not only is the fan base less than half the size but it’s also dying out.

Very very few youngsters support the few, the gap is growing, you ****, not closing.

The Championship is something they know absolutely nothing about, 30 years since they were at that level now.

[redysteadygo]

4 hours ago, GreedyHarry said:

Well from what little I know of the law they’ve already breached one about undertaking construction works prior to 0730 and one about not ripping down trees between May and September.

As that’s documented I’d hope that the appropriate authorities deal with them.

 

Not only between those dates. Similar to an application next door to me. If you look at the application form where information is provided to the question "are any trees or hedges to be removed" the NO dot is filled in.

[BetterRedthanBlue]

Looking at the design brief how can they say it's not going to be any bigger? It looks bigger on the designs!

Also they are cutting down trees and hedges (as set out in the objects) and have marked no surely that should be an automatic rejection.

[Open End Numb Legs]

Read some of the objections, this could be fun.

More popcorn required. .

[BS13 Robin]

2 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Read some of the objections, this could be fun.

More popcorn required. .

To be honest i only read the objections,think its fair to say the locals aint happy!!

[Pedrowe]

It’ll be interesting to see how the planning application plays out. It’s pretty minor scheme in the grand scheme of things, but the quality of application itself is appalling. It barely gives any detail for residents to understand the impacts of the proposal.
 

I’d imagine the good people of Horfield (wasn’t there a campaign group before?, Residents Opposed to Stadium Expansion, ROSE??) will kick up enough of a stink to get it to a planning committee and delay it a bit.
 

That said, it seems like Rovers are ploughing on regardless, which is an interesting approach to maintaining good relations with their neighbours…

 

[Gazred]

Here's a taster, gurt Teds in the objections I tell you...

Comment Details
Commenter Type: Neighbour
Stance: Customer objects to the Planning Application
Comment Reasons:
Comment:

Bristol Rovers have been constructing this stand without planning, or consideration for
neighbours for a number of weeks, they have been starting works as early at 6:30am and
concluding as late as 8pm.

They have ripped down trees and shrubs which are necessary to protect privacy to residents on the street, and to act as a barrier for noise and the rubbish which
comes from the ground, as well as being a loss for wildlife. The proposed stand is much larger,
and will impact on the light in the street, the noise on match day and the number of people which
park on the street which is already restricted. The new structure will clearly over shadow
neighbouring homes and gardens.

The increased capacity will significantly increase the number of cars on the narrow streets, and the number of people who park dangerously, the grounds do little
to assist with this in any way currently. It also means residents with young children, or mobility
issues, are often left unable to park near or on the surrounding streets to their homes. The ground
already makes a significant amount of noise for local residents, and in the past they have left on
their scoreboard emitting a high pitched noise often for days. If the capacity is increased the noise
will also increase, this is often late into the night, and is not appreciated by those of us with young children.

Trees on the boundary between residents gardens and the grounds have been ripped down with
no consideration for neighbours privacy or the impact on the local wildlife, especially as we are in
nesting season.

I am concerned the impact that increased capacity has on the fire evacuation procedure, the
grounds currently use the entrance on Alton road as an emergency exit, the close proximity of the
stand to this exit, and the large number of people who would be on the narrow street is a cause for
concern.

Given the scale of the new stand and the impact on the surrounding properties it is going to stick
out, as a metal box that does nothing to improve the visuals for the area

The grounds have not responded satisfactorily to any queries raised by locals as to the impact the
stand will have on them, they have not conducted any public consultation, giving adequate notice for attendance or with anyone who is involved in the project. They believe that they can build the stand no matter the impact, and that nothing will be done.

Although the planning application has only been made live, they have already been sharing plans on their website and selling tickets for
the stand, and started construction.

Their actions suggest they are above any laws, rules and
processes put in place that might hinder them having this stand operational for the new season.

[RedHienz]

The supporting comments are gold.

"Its rovers right to build, the stadium was there first!"

"The club need this stand to fulfill their potential" 

Blah blah blah.

I object!

[RedHienz]

1 minute ago, TomF said:

 

Family club.

Suspect the right people have been paid to ensure the stand is given provisional approval rather quickly.

Unless it's an absolute mess of a plan.

[redsquirrel]

PROPOSED GORUND FLOOR PLAN   says it all really

[richyy66]

Looks like a Kids design using "Minecraft".

 

 

[BCFC11]

Looking through the plans it looks good. A proper stand. Will make the stadium feel a lot more enclosed. Looking forward to seeing it

Who’s gonna tell them…

 

[richyy66]

Seriously some of the objections are laughable. Although we did have similar when trying for New Ashton Vale Stadium.

This objection made me chuckle from local resident of Horfield

 

 

[cityal]

From one of the objections:

Quote

In addition to the issue of planning permission, there is a lack of evidence to justify the proposed
increased stadium capacity. The current proposal fails to provide any data or analysis that
convincingly demonstrates the need for such expansion. It is imperative that any increase in
capacity aligns with the demands and needs of the local community, and is supported by sound
evidence

Asking the gas for facts/evidence is akin to asking them where the soap is kept.
It will be greeted by a vacant gormless stare 

[Open End Numb Legs]

5 minutes ago, richyy66 said:

Seriously some of the objections are laughable. Although we did have similar when trying for New Ashton Vale Stadium.

This objection made me chuckle from local resident of Horfield

 

 

Surprised they didn't mention listening to Dolly Parton's Greatest Hits to get a bigger laugh.

[Scrumpty]

4 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

How does one put in some comedy objections make a public comment?

I suspect ChatGPT could rustle up a decent objection

[GrahamC]

13 minutes ago, richyy66 said:

Seriously some of the objections are laughable. Although we did have similar when trying for New Ashton Vale Stadium.

This objection made me chuckle from local resident of Horfield

 

 

Looks to me like Finbarr Saunders wrote that one, they’ve managed to get tits & bush in the same sentence..

Absolute quality & I salute those citizens of Bristol & their democratic right to totally **** up the fewers embarrassing ground “improvements”

[richyy66]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

Looks to me like Finbarr Saunders wrote that one, they’ve managed to get tits & bush in the same sentence..

Absolute quality & I salute those citizens of Bristol & their democratic right to totally **** up the fewers embarrassing ground “improvements”

The guys off his Tits...:laugh:

[petehinton]

Corrr a league one side beats Melksham comfortably and suddenly they’re winning the league ffs

[Ska Junkie]

1 hour ago, richyy66 said:

Looks like a Kids design using "Minecraft".

 

 

WTF is that orange and purple thing on the rhs? A phone box?

BTW, the fact that they're running roughshod over legal planning rules could mean at least 50 pages on here, especially if they build it and compare it to BS3 or have to unbolt it. That would be justice.

For our saggie visitors, that is NOT anything that compares to AG, not even close, our training centre is better.

Edited June 30, 2023 by Ska Junkie

[fgrsimon]

2 hours ago, richyy66 said:

Seriously some of the objections are laughable. Although we did have similar when trying for New Ashton Vale Stadium.

This objection made me chuckle from local resident of Horfield

 

 

- one of the objections actually mentions dog walkers!

Edited July 1, 2023 by fgrsimon
Grammar

[bristolmoose]

2 hours ago, richyy66 said:

Seriously some of the objections are laughable. Although we did have similar when trying for New Ashton Vale Stadium.

This objection made me chuckle from local resident of Horfield

 

 

Not all bad news. They'll have around 6000 tits to look at every other Saturday come August time,

[Monkeh]

Rovers could already be on serious trouble with this,

Its illegal to fell or cut down trees during nesting season, without the express permission from heritage England, just ask the former tory leader of Plymouth Council,

If rovers have done this without any permission, then expect planning permission to be halted or turned down

https://www.tabtrees.co.uk/faq/will-the-presence-of-birds-or-bats-make-any-difference-to-my-tree-work/#:~:text=Can you cut down a,the nesting season is over.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Monkeh

[BS3City]

4 hours ago, fgrsimon said:

- one of the objections actually mentions dog walkers!

I might know something about that...

[Port Said Red]

42 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Rovers could already be on serious trouble with this,

Its illegal to fell or cut down trees during nesting season, without the express permission from heritage England, just ask the former tory leader of Plymouth Council,

If rovers have done this without any permission, then expect planning permission to be halted or turned down

https://www.tabtrees.co.uk/faq/will-the-presence-of-birds-or-bats-make-any-difference-to-my-tree-work/#:~:text=Can you cut down a,the nesting season is over.

Although I agree with @richyy66that some of those objections are too general and frivolous, the killing of the trees without consent is really genuinely upsetting. 

It's common knowledge of course that destroying trees has a detrimental effect on the levels of carbon emissions in the atmosphere, but it's only recently through having solar panels have I realised that just how much that is. 

This shows that 1 average size tree saves 1.8tonnes of carbon in it's lifetime, that doesn't take into account the other wildlife that use it and the fact that a tree is like a mini eco system of other plant life growing on it. 

I am not being facetious, I would be equally appalled (maybe more so) if the City did something like this to healthy trees.

[Lanterne Rouge]

What`s Horfield like these days? Is it getting all gentrified like BS3 is?

[Port Said Red]

9 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

What`s Horfield like these days? Is it getting all gentrified like BS3 is?

I can never tell where one bit starts or finishes over that side of town, but the Gloucester Road has become quite "bohemian" maybe? Like Bedminster with the bars and restaurants, but a bit more diverse in the cuisine etc.

[ExiledAjax]

Some of the supporting comments are so obviously biased and loaded. Imagine thinking that people would complain about having their view of the Gas obscured.

 

[Taz]

8 hours ago, richyy66 said:

Seriously some of the objections are laughable. Although we did have similar when trying for New Ashton Vale Stadium.

This objection made me chuckle from local resident of Horfield

 

 

They've obviously been showing babestation on their large TV they purchased from the rosey cheeked lady garden.....

[elhombrecito]

23 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Some of the supporting comments are so obviously biased and loaded. Imagine thinking that people would complain about having their view of the Gas obscured.

 

Ah yes, that well known planning law that says if you're there first, you can do whatever the hell you like... 

[RedRock]

2 hours ago, Monkeh said:

Rovers could already be on serious trouble with this,

Its illegal to fell or cut down trees during nesting season, without the express permission from heritage England, just ask the former tory leader of Plymouth Council,

If rovers have done this without any permission, then expect planning permission to be halted or turned down

https://www.tabtrees.co.uk/faq/will-the-presence-of-birds-or-bats-make-any-difference-to-my-tree-work/#:~:text=Can you cut down a,the nesting season is over.

Erm…. not quite right, as much as I would love it to be in this case.

The onus is on the owner/tree surgeon to satisfy themselves that there are no nesting birds or the presence of a bat roost before commencement of tree (or hedge) operations. As you can imagine, this legal ‘obligation’ is easy to flout by disreputable owners/tree surgeons who will claim they did check and found no evidence.

Of course, if there is evidence presented by others that birds were nesting at the time of the works or a bat roost existed, the key test would be the quality/robustness of that evidence in a court of law. The bar would be set high, not just ‘say so’.

With major developments, or in instances where there are likely to be nesting birds it is regarded as good practice not to undertake works between Feb-Sept/Oct. If, for whatever reason, that is unavoidable many reputable owners/tree surgeons will employ specialist ecologists to undertake surveys to provide evidence prior to works.

Yours 
Monty Don

 

[Unan]

Can anyone link me to the page where you can post objections/support? Their site is playing up on mobile.

[Bristol Rob]

1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

What`s Horfield like these days? Is it getting all gentrified like BS3 is?

Honestly, it's a mixed bag of the things (he says as a resident), still the odd proper boozer around, but equally more places to buy coffee than anyone realistically needs.

Some nice places to eat and on a non match day you wouldn't know that the Fewers play nearby, you just don't see people wearing their shirts walking about.

[Gazred]

6 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Can anyone link me to the page where you can post objections/support? Their site is playing up on mobile.

https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=RSQK1RDNKSY00

[Lanterne Rouge]

27 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Honestly, it's a mixed bag of the things (he says as a resident), still the odd proper boozer around, but equally more places to buy coffee than anyone realistically needs.

Some nice places to eat and on a non match day you wouldn't know that the Fewers play nearby, you just don't see people wearing their shirts walking shambling about like zombies looking in bins for food and rambling incoherently about `da shit`.

Corrected for accuracy.