GrahamC Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Leveller said: Sky Sports now tweeting that Alex Neil has been given permission to speak to Stoke. His Sunderland press conference this morning was postponed as he was "in a meeting". Unless this is genuinely for domestic reasons, so he still lives in the area (Cheshire is very popular) & partner & maybe children do too, then it is a head scratcher. Stoke do pay well, have a record of attracting other team’s managers but are not in Sunderland’s league in terms of size. You never know what is going on behind the scenes but this is a really surprising one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 FFP doesn't apply to Stoke then? Compensation to O'Neil, a manager in work more compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Be a shame if Alex Neil goes to Stoke. We'd have to watch another one of his sides ****house a win against us at AG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Would be absolutely amazed if he takes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, 2015 said: Be a shame if Alex Neil goes to Stoke. We'd have to watch another one of his sides ****house a win against us at AG. Perfect fit for Stoke Spoiling , time wasting , over physical Perfect Jumping ship - Another reason to dislike him * Spooky they’ve just played Sunderland - clearly no chats took place then Edited August 26, 2022 by Sheltons Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 21 hours ago, Monkeh said: Can't stand Barton but he's done a good job at the Blue few, so unsurprising he's been linked One way or another he dragged them back up - mostly due to the ridiculous signing of Anderson, but the point is not only was Anderson presumably happy to sign for Barton, but Newcastle were impressed enough with Barton to believe it would be a good temporary career move for one of their top young talents. So despite Barton's d******d public persona and off the field shenanigans, very surprisingly he does seem to be respected in the game for his coaching ability enough for bigger clubs to entrust the progression of their players to his care. He is in a long line, mostly unbroken, of gobby Rovers managers but this one does seem to have galvanised the majority of their fans. It's quite possible he will continue to do well there so imo. the sooner he departs Bristol, for Stoke, another club, or for any other reason, the better. Rovers fans (apart from the few of the few who have apparently boycotted) would be devastated, so that would be a bonus! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Why would Stoke employ the Scouse thug with a possible custodial sentence in the offing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Unless this is genuinely for domestic reasons, so he still lives in the area (Cheshire is very popular) & partner & maybe children do too, then it is a head scratcher. Stoke do pay well, have a record of attracting other team’s managers but are not in Sunderland’s league in terms of size. You never know what is going on behind the scenes but this is a really surprising one. Apart from the stadium/support side, I suppose the teams have similar potential and of course Stoke’s owners are loaded and genuine local supporters. And if home life is important that is a lot better than a long distance commute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, petehinton said: Would be absolutely amazed if he takes it Promised him free bets on 365 but he's bet on Sunderland to finish above Stoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Alex Neil is 'in a car heading for Stoke' according to the excellent Stoke forum. So is the thug and he's meeting Neil for a fight at Keele services ( I may have made that bit up!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just looked at the Sunderland forum and they don't seem at all surprised. Something about a power struggle with the DOF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 I bet @TomF Sunderland counterpart is having fun on the their forum, the meltdown on twitter from their fans has been huge. Cancelling season card direct debits, swearing never to set foot in the ground again while those in charge are there. Something must be going quite wrong behind the scenes for him to make that move, surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Just looked at the Sunderland forum and they don't seem at all surprised. Something about a power struggle with the DOF? Is that the one who insisted they sign Defoe when LJ didn't want him? That went well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: I bet @TomF Sunderland counterpart is having fun on the their forum, the meltdown on twitter from their fans has been huge. Cancelling season card direct debits, swearing never to set foot in the ground again while those in charge are there. Something must be going quite wrong behind the scenes for him to make that move, surely. Are they really that stupid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Are they really that stupid ? Probably not but you know football fans when they get hot under the collar?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Leveller said: Apart from the stadium/support side, I suppose the teams have similar potential and of course Stoke’s owners are loaded and genuine local supporters. And if home life is important that is a lot better than a long distance commute. So why take the job in the first place ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Barton to Sunderland? He’s former Newcastle and a nut job. What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) Reportedly a salary of £1.5m per year to Neil, plus compensation to Sunderland and compensation to O'Neil surely. Edited August 26, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Sounds like it’s done. Crikey. Their board must be truly awful to deal with for him to jump ship so easily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: Sounds like it’s done. Crikey. Their board must be truly awful to deal with for him to jump ship so easily! Got to be much more to this than meets the eye, wanted to sign players they refused, chairman repeatedly meddles, that sort of thing. Stoke has chewed up & spat out plenty of managers who have been successful before (& after) being with them, a brave move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Another Sunderland documentary incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Just looked at the Sunderland forum and they don't seem at all surprised. Something about a power struggle with the DOF? 37 minutes ago, chinapig said: Is that the one who insisted they sign Defoe when LJ didn't want him? That went well. Put it this way Macca and LJ had no idea they were getting the boot, came as a complete surprise. (Source: Macca) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 I did mention back in January that LJ wasn’t happy with some of the ‘influences’ within Sunderland. That they sacked him when comfortably in the playoff zone said a lot. Now Neil, who gained success, is clearly finding those ‘influences’ difficult to work under. As I’d mentioned before, there are people making decisions at Sunderland who aren’t the so-called owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Reportedly a salary of £1.5m per year to Neil, plus compensation to Sunderland and compensation to O'Neil surely. I heard Neil is only on a 12 month rolling contract so compensation would be pretty minimal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Got to be much more to this than meets the eye, wanted to sign players they refused, chairman repeatedly meddles, that sort of thing. Stoke has chewed up & spat out plenty of managers who have been successful before (& after) being with them, a brave move. Plus if the hefty salary of £1.5m per year is to be believed then no surprise he has left.. without doubt would be a massive increase on his wage at Sunderland I’d have thought. Edited August 26, 2022 by bris red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Got to be much more to this than meets the eye, wanted to sign players they refused, chairman repeatedly meddles, that sort of thing. Stoke has chewed up & spat out plenty of managers who have been successful before (& after) being with them, a brave move. He’s said he wasn’t backed, which is just a mega cop out imo. Same as when a new manager comes in and says players aren’t fit enough or something. They’ve signed 8(?) players this window with another one incoming today by all accounts. Hardly feeding off 1 or 2 free transfer is he 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 I find this truly bizzare must have been some bad goings on at Sunderland for Neil to leave. I wonder who would take over at Sunderland? Dyche? Cook? A return for Roy Keane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Kodjias Wrist said: I find this truly bizzare must have been some bad goings on at Sunderland for Neil to leave. I wonder who would take over at Sunderland? Dyche? Cook? A return for Roy Keane? Dyche would be a good fit to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: He’s said he wasn’t backed, which is just a mega cop out imo. Same as when a new manager comes in and says players aren’t fit enough or something. They’ve signed 8(?) players this window with another one incoming today by all accounts. Hardly feeding off 1 or 2 free transfer is he Absolutely, sounds either like he didn’t get on with the owners or it was the location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: He’s said he wasn’t backed, which is just a mega cop out imo. Same as when a new manager comes in and says players aren’t fit enough or something. They’ve signed 8(?) players this window with another one incoming today by all accounts. Hardly feeding off 1 or 2 free transfer is he That may depend on whether the players signed were the ones he wanted perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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