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Dr Balls

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14 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

I think we’re a team with quite a few young players - especially in forward positions.  Young players are inconsistent by their nature. Today was inconsistent. We shouldn’t think we’re going to be world beaters every week. 

I don’t think we have shown any signs of being world beaters at any point recently. Unless by the rest of the world you mean Oxford United!

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Lrrr

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1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

What, even if we receive £25m?  Are you saying that the sale of Scott was needed to avoid a massive points deduction?  If we sell big, we should at least be able to buy something.

We bought first so we wouldn’t be held hostage over fees having received money for Scott 

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Marina's Rolls Royce

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6 minutes ago, WessexPest said:

We looked competent against two very poor teams. Against good sides we have been found badly wanting.

 

6 minutes ago, ChrisBW said:

We are a solid championship side, the problem is we are supposed to be pushing for the playoffs - that is what we are being told….on the basis of what’s happened so far this season that is smile off.

So Brum in 3rd and Preston 5th are very poor teams? Millwall were very tidy last season.

After 3 games we are condemned to what exactly? Pretty much every Championship club states the playoffs as the goal and we are no different. I didn't buy it last season or this. What the hell do you expect? .... "This season we are looking for a mid table finish"?

With the injuries and new players at least give me a couple more games before I dust off my 'Pearson Out" thread.

 

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4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

No. I think it means we’ve been hamstrung into it - which isn’t necessarily a bad thing long term, so long as the next person to get unlimited funds isn’t the return of the prodigal son. 

I just think that if our strategy is to promote acadey players and buy lower league players with potential, you can forget about a push top 6, unless that recruitment is so phenomenal that you unearth Premier League ready starlets (or they are handed on a plate by Guernsey FC!)

So that's fine, but let's settle for mid table ish.

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

It's just too thin. It is a long season, injuries will arise but you need depth where possible,  competition plus that midfielder with a touch of class.

We were spoilt with Scott but someone for sure.

I agree, but Brian Tinnion was lauding the other week how we have two quality players for each position.

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35 minutes ago, Superjack said:

Rookie Manager = "Have a load of cash and buy yourself some toys"

Experienced Manager = "Thanks for getting us back on track, but there's no money in the pot"

Rinse and repeat. 

It boils my ****ing p*ss.

Agree.

In my opinion this club will never be able to push on on the pitch while the Lansdown's remain in power.

Over the last two decades they (SL mainly) have proved that they aren't fit to run a football club when it comes to decision making side of things.

 

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marcofisher

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2 minutes ago, Spudgun said:

Agree.

In my opinion this club will never be able to push on on the pitch while the Lansdown's remain in power.

Over the last two decades they (SL mainly) have proved that they aren't fit to run a football club when it comes to decision making side of things.

 

What wrong decisions have been made in the NP era? I am curious as I think we are far better run than in the LJ/DH era.

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Dr Balls

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2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Yeh I posted the other day that xG overall is down from about 1.3 per game to 0.8. xG per shot is down from about 0.12 to 0.9. Big reductions, but @Ghost Rider is correct that after only 3 games it's concerning, but it's not conclusive.

As for what we should aim for. Well historically the majority of top 6 teams end the season with roughly 12-15 shots per game, 4-5 of which are on target, and xG for is normally around 1.35-1.5, with top teams hitting 1.6 xG per game.

So, if after 15 games we're back up to those numbers, well then fire up the bus and clean out the trophy cabinet!

Unfortunately the evidence so far suggests that kind of xG will only be possible with different players and potentially a different formation/style of play. We just don’t look like scoring and our only 2 league goals this season have come from long throws from a player whose best ability on the pitch appears to be long throws. (Which would be fine if for all was like American Football, where we could have a specialist player we just bring in and out for long throws but obviously it’s not!)

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Dr Balls

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4 minutes ago, mozo said:

I just think that if our strategy is to promote acadey players and buy lower league players with potential, you can forget about a push top 6, unless that recruitment is so phenomenal that you unearth Premier League ready starlets (or they are handed on a plate by Guernsey FC!)

So that's fine, but let's settle for mid table ish.

I agree, but Brian Tinnion was lauding the other week how we have two quality players for each position.

We don’t have 2 fit quality players for each position. And even when fit, I would question whether we have enough depth through the squad. All areas through the spine of the team look at risk of significant problems if there were injuries or a suspension to a particular player (GK, central defence, attacking midfield, centre forward).

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ChrisBW

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6 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

So Brum in 3rd and Preston 5th are very poor teams? Millwall were very tidy last season.

After 3 games we are condemned to what exactly? Pretty much every Championship club states the playoffs as the goal and we are no different. I didn't buy it last season or this. What the hell do you expect? .... "This season we are looking for a mid table finish"?

With the injuries and new players at least give me a couple more games before I dust off my 'Pearson Out" thread.

 

I don’t recall saying that they were ‘very poor’ teams, feel free to let me know where I have said that. Otherwise dont waste your time asking me questions if you’re just going to make things up.

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Lorenzos Only Goal

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22 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

Mate magger 1 is trying to sign off I can’t talk to tossers 

Oh I see, the other facet of the dim witted individual in which you reside comes on calls people *****, happy clappers, ******* idiots etc.  Then when people are rightly not amused by this you another facet that resides in the low IQ'd individual comes on an insults people with a different set of expletives.

Interesting I'll have to refer this to my zero ***** given manual for further investigation.

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Top Robin

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Just now, ChrisBW said:

I think some of the signings are highly questionable 

Nige has has 3 years to get together a team and squad' of his choice - some may say that is long enough. 

It's a worry that we still aren't great, but we should really give him a few more games this season to get some more consistent performances. 

If things aren't better in 4 ot 5 games then questions need to be asked.

 

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1 minute ago, Top Robin said:

Nige has has 3 years to get together a team and squad' of his choice - some may say that is long enough. 

It's a worry that we still aren't great, but we should really give him a few more games this season to get some more consistent performances. 

If things aren't better in 4 ot 5 games then questions need to be asked.

 

Don’t rate Tanner, Cornick or Mehmeti based on what I’ve seen so far, they’ve had plenty of time. 

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marcofisher

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1 minute ago, ChrisBW said:

Who said anything about chucking money. 

The post I quoted was questioning the Lansdown’s decision making. I asked which decisions under the NP era are questionable and you responded the signings. But I misread your post where you stated you didn’t realise it was about it the Lansdowns, so I thought you were still referring to them. Apologies.

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Barrs Court Red

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3 minutes ago, marcofisher said:

But you can’t just chuck money in any more because of FFP

Doesn’t really cost to have at the very least, some sort of presence? 
 

Because aside from some backhanded snipes at Nige in the last year, it’s been radio silence.  
 

Are we in the final stage of “it’s my club” approach to ownership, where not even communication with the punters is deemed worthy? 
 

 

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1 minute ago, marcofisher said:

What wrong decisions have been made in the NP era? I am curious as I think we are far better run than in the LJ/DH era.

Not many, off the pitch can't really fault him with the facilities significantly upgraded but I think it's quite telling how quiet SL in particular has been ln the last couple of years. I think he got the NP appointment right and realized he had to be given the time to sort out the mess the club was in, which he oversaw and ultimately let happen under his watch. His responsibility as much as LJ/MA,, but in truth I don't think he had much of a choice, can't just keep sacking managers especially with the financial state the club was in.

In my opinion and it's just a hunch, even if there was a war chest available to spend I honestly don't think he would back him with it. Cotts springs to mind, neither him or Nige are yes men.

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marcofisher

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Just now, Barrs Court Red said:

Doesn’t really cost to have at the very least, some sort of presence? 
 

Because aside from some backhanded snipes at Nige in the last year, it’s been radio silence.  
 

Are we in the final stage of “it’s my club” approach to ownership, where not even communication with the punters is deemed worthy? 
 

 

Absolutely, different conversation maybe. My point was more that I prefer the strategy of the club now to the LJ era. Your points are valid too.

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