MichaelRobartes Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Was definitely legal. I'd say they practiced that. Ridiculous speed from Kolbe. Once Ramos makes that first little movement towards the ball, he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 He has nothing on Peter Stringer though 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, MichaelRobartes said: Was definitely legal. I'd say they practiced that. Ridiculous speed from Kolbe. Once Ramos makes that first little movement towards the ball, he's gone. As you say, ridiculous speed from Kolbe but Ramos far too slow from initial movement 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 Quick word for one of my favourite players too. Keith Earls confirmed his retirement today. An unbelievable player for Munster and Ireland for so long. I'd have loved him to stay on for one more year, but he goes out after helping Munster win our first trophy in 12 years, healthy and on his own terms. It could be worse. One of our all-time greats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, MichaelRobartes said: Quick word for one of my favourite players too. Keith Earls confirmed his retirement today. An unbelievable player for Munster and Ireland for so long. I'd have loved him to stay on for one more year, but he goes out after helping Munster win our first trophy in 12 years, healthy and on his own terms. It could be worse. One of our all-time greats. Mossie Keane was my neighbour in Portarlington. Sadly passed away a few years after we moved to France. Amazing who you get to know over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 England team 15 Freddie Steward, 14 Jonny May, 13 Joe Marchant, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 Owen Farrell (c); 9 Alex Mitchell, 1 Joe Marler, 2 Jamie George, 3 Dan Cole, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Martin, 6 Courtney Lawes, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Ben Earl. Replacements: 16 Theo Dan, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Ollie Chessum, 20 Billy Vunipola, 21 Danny Care, 22 George Ford, 23 Ollie Lawrence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Boks unchanged. I think it'd be England's best-ever win if they did it given the respective strength of both sides. I can see the Boks' bench making a big difference. Some terrifying men there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 4 hours ago, MichaelRobartes said: Boks unchanged. I think it'd be England's best-ever win if they did it given the respective strength of both sides. I can see the Boks' bench making a big difference. Some terrifying men there. Think I'd agree. Would be an incredible result if Eng won. They need SA to have an off-day. Or is it possible Eng have had such an easy route to the semis compared to SA, that they will be fresher and that'll be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Think I'd agree. Would be an incredible result if Eng won. They need SA to have an off-day. Or is it possible Eng have had such an easy route to the semis compared to SA, that they will be fresher and that'll be enough? We (England) have no chance unless we get very lucky and they get red carded early on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, MichaelRobartes said: Boks unchanged. I think it'd be England's best-ever win if they did it given the respective strength of both sides. I can see the Boks' bench making a big difference. Some terrifying men there. Can't disagree, apart from perhaps Martin Johnson’s England beating the All Blacks in Wellington when reduced to 13 men in the summer of 2003. That took some doing, to put it mildly. Only England's second series win in New Zealand, ever. The only other, ever, being 30 years prior by an England team captained by Bristol's greatest player, the Aust farmer John Pullin, and a squad featuring several other Bristol players. I'm biased, but that's right up there too. But yes it will take a remarkable effort to win the semi final - like last time, it might take so much out of us, the tank is empty come the final. Just like the last World Cup. That semi final demolition of Kiwi last time, with a clinical, near faultless performance, has to rank as perhaps the best ever though - until now! Game plan? Dominate territory by kicking and chasing well. Win the battle in the air when they inevitably kick it back to us. I.E. beat them at their own game. That gives us half a chance. Half. Because there's only one winner at scrum time (no surprise our 2 best scrummaging props start the game) and only one winner at the breakdown (a card of some kind is guaranteed for the clueless Curry, meaning we might have to win with 14 - yeah right). So any penalties conceded within range of our posts at either of those engagements will mean the Bokboers stroll to victory. The fact they're not bothering to start with Pollard means they think they'll stroll it anyway. Edited October 19, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 If the semis live up to the quarters we are all in for a treat this weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 19/10/2023 at 12:08, Super said: England team 15 Freddie Steward, 14 Jonny May, 13 Joe Marchant, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 Owen Farrell (c); 9 Alex Mitchell, 1 Joe Marler, 2 Jamie George, 3 Dan Cole, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Martin, 6 Courtney Lawes, 7 Tom Curry, 8 Ben Earl. Replacements: 16 Theo Dan, 17 Ellis Genge, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Ollie Chessum, 20 Billy Vunipola, 21 Danny Care, 22 George Ford, 23 Ollie Lawrence. Interesting. I can understand the forward changes but fear the perseverance with Mitchell us a mistake. I can see Reinach with his electric pace putting his box kicking under tremendous pleasure and would have gone for the experienced Care. Steward is the correct call having been inexplicably left out of the squad for the QF, a position that Marcus Smith now finds himself in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Interesting. I can understand the forward changes but fear the perseverance with Mitchell us a mistake. I can see Reinach with his electric pace putting his box kicking under tremendous pleasure and would have gone for the experienced Care. Steward is the correct call having been inexplicably left out of the squad for the QF, a position that Marcus Smith now finds himself in. Smith is injured, hasn't recovered from the blows to the face he got in the QF. Though I think Steward would have played anyway as SA will kick a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 I can honestly see them putting 50 points on us just hoping they are well in control and then have one eye on the final and ease up bring some subs on early the problem is there bench is just as bloody strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Good start by Argentina - on the front foot and an early penalty . But naturally the All Blacks quickly fight back as they do. Edited October 20, 2023 by Markthehorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: Good start by Argentina - on the front foot and an early penalty . But naturally the All Blacks quickly fight back as they do. Yeah, game over now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yeah, game over now... Showing how ruthless they can be . Had 3 real chances and scored 3 tries. Argentina had most of the ball it seems but wasteful or NZ get it back . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 There doesn't seem to be a lot of penetration from Argentina. The All Blacks are just waiting for them to run at them and then they tackle them and win the turnover. A bit more imagination in attack is required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 Oh well, game over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Paul G said: Oh well, game over Try on HT killed it as a contest . Argentina out on their feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: Try on HT killed it as a contest . Argentina out on their feet I hope it's not this bad tomorrow but I fear it will be. The two quarter finals last week that were so good should have been the semis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 Even down to 14 they outscore them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Paul G said: I hope it's not this bad tomorrow but I fear it will be. The two quarter finals last week that were so good should have been the semis Shall be watching from behind the sofa I really do fear the worst , think I might be watching strictly by half time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, redkev said: Shall be watching from behind the sofa I really do fear the worst , think I might be watching strictly by half time My wife is kindly driving me to a pub and being taxi for the night, so, win or lose I will be taking full advantage. These opportunities don't come very often so in my mind I'm winning anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 When this tournament started they were having to have drink break due to the heat. Now they are commentating in the rain and cold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 19/10/2023 at 20:07, Merrick's Marvels said: Can't disagree, apart from perhaps Martin Johnson’s England beating the All Blacks in Wellington when reduced to 13 men in the summer of 2003. That took some doing, to put it mildly. Only England's second series win in New Zealand, ever. The only other, ever, being 30 years prior by an England team captained by Bristol's greatest player, the Aust farmer John Pullin, and a squad featuring several other Bristol players. I'm biased, but that's right up there too. But yes it will take a remarkable effort to win the semi final - like last time, it might take so much out of us, the tank is empty come the final. Just like the last World Cup. That semi final demolition of Kiwi last time, with a clinical, near faultless performance, has to rank as perhaps the best ever though - until now! Game plan? Dominate territory by kicking and chasing well. Win the battle in the air when they inevitably kick it back to us. I.E. beat them at their own game. That gives us half a chance. Half. Because there's only one winner at scrum time (no surprise our 2 best scrummaging props start the game) and only one winner at the breakdown (a card of some kind is guaranteed for the clueless Curry, meaning we might have to win with 14 - yeah right). So any penalties conceded within range of our posts at either of those engagements will mean the Bokboers stroll to victory. The fact they're not bothering to start with Pollard means they think they'll stroll it anyway. Was fortunate to meet John on a couple of occasions, an incredibly modest, humble & genuine man....could never forget his post match statement in 1972 after losing to Ireland - " We weren't much good but at least we turned up" They don't make em like him anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Paul G said: I hope it's not this bad tomorrow but I fear it will be. The two quarter finals last week that were so good should have been the semis Todays game has an air of inevitability about it but we can live in hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Paul G said: My wife is kindly driving me to a pub and being taxi for the night, so, win or lose I will be taking full advantage. These opportunities don't come very often so in my mind I'm winning anyway Enjoy the drink I think that might be all you enjoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 21, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 Sadly unlike football freak results don't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 hours ago, phantom said: Sadly unlike football freak results don't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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