eardun Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 Worth watching the whole press conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuoNeKysxPw I didn’t see it as Pearson having a dig at Lansdown. He’s just telling it how it is - the budget is the budget and he works within what he is given. I love his approach - no moaning from him; he just gets on with the job 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, Psychopomp said: Exactly this. It is blatantly unfair to ask Nige to explain to fans or the media the budget policy. He is right to say he cannot answer the question. It is not his job to, he does not set it. He has calmly said he is following the club guidelines given to him. This is for the CEO or Charman to explain the dramatic change in club policy. No issue with that change of policy, the club loses a lot of money, but they do need to explain it, not Nige. It is very disingenuous to put him in that position. It's not disingenuous it's deliberate as I see it. Antonio Conte asked at a press conference last season why somebody from the club was not there to answer questions that it was not his job to. That was because that is common practice in Italy. He was right of course but the manager is not going to win a power battle with an arrogant owner. I'm sure Nigel knows that but he certainly isn't going to grovel in the way Steve likes his managers to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjg11 Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 Point missed here if this was the wage structure all along why wasn't this made clear earlier in the summer . We were given the impression that Scott stayed or funds to be made available if he went . How many season tickets would have been sold if people had the full range of the facts . May be me being cynical but strange this didn't become apparent until the season had started . I know that's when Scott was sold but Lansdown didn't just wake up that day and decide that was the policy. Had to have been planned months ago . I said on other posts . Respect Lansdown for the work on the infrastructure. But the team and the fans last again . Rather have a crap ground like Luton and good team than other way around 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Yeah, people would have loved that wouldn't they? "But, but, we have the worst ground in the prem and it's embarrassing. Why doesn't he build a ground?" Not to mention the fact that he can build a ground within the financial rules, but can't do the same with a team. How many more times FFS. We are under no ffp constraints now. How many more times FFS 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 pages in an hour, must be some sort of OTIB record?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ian M said: To be fair we don’t need to. The Scott fee will be in instalments. Let’s say the rumours were right that we wanted £10m up front, it could be that next season the instalment is £5m, leaving us needing to sell someone (or more than one) with up front payments amounting to the other £5m. Conway immediately springs to mind. Then the problem comes that we will need to find a replacement on £5k per week or less as we are at our wage budget maximum. Maybe we can strike it lucky and Yeboah can be that replacement. If Cashflow is the issue, then explain so. We know it’s not FFP. But Ian, don’t forget the quote - “if we can sell a player for £25m…nest egg” This isn’t about instalments, it is SL not wanting to use the money. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hxj said: Seems to me that everyone hated the apparent 'pointless splurge' under the previous characters and now hate the 'pointless restraint' under the current characters. The problem is the ‘pointless splurge’ was given to the wrong hands. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Yeah, people would have loved that wouldn't they? "But, but, we have the worst ground in the prem and it's embarrassing. Why doesn't he build a ground?" Not to mention the fact that he can build a ground within the financial rules, but can't do the same with a team. How many more times FFS. He's had 20 plus years to make his riches count. I don't spend a day travelling to the Gate and back to admire a stand. I'd happily have had the worst ground in the Prem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeside Red Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: The clip from Radio Guernsey or whatever it was? " We’ve got to bide our time and keep investing in players and wait for that moment like Luton had… it’s the only way we can do it because we can’t compete with the parachute payments that come out of the Premier League... they’re way ahead of us on spend, way ahead, and so we’ve just got to build that scenario... if we could sell players for 25 million every year, you know… we’d be building that nest egg up to be able to compete in the longer term… I think this season with the squad of players we've got, we've got a real chance of, you know, of competing at the top end of the table and maybe we'll strike it lucky... that's the way we've got to look at it... we never stop, we never stop recruiting, we never stop scouting, we never stop trying to develop our players and we obviously want to do as well as we possibly can, we've got a great stadium, fantastic training facilities and the squad is, it's a young squad, we've got some good experienced players in there as well alongside them and we've got the makings of a promotion winning side if we can get that little bit of luck and consistency " Yes but why was he talking to Radio guernsey and not the city fans who he should be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Red Exile said: Thing is - the STs are sold, and counted in the attendances regardless of who turns up. Its not the first time I've bought a ST in the Lansdown regime only to think a few weeks into the season that the optimistic prospectus on which it was sold was all smoke and mirrors! Which is why I don’t buy a ST under Lansdown’s last 3 years tenure - almost fraudulent IMO. And I am as passionate about Bristol City as anyone. Really annoyed this pm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, Red Exile said: You wouldn't be alone! I went a season early. No regrets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Well will be at Swansea supporting NP and the boys. We lose it’s going to be a long 2 weeks and frustrations will build over those 2 weeks. Uncertain times GR Anyway you good All good mate, apart from all this malarkey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Finley_Smith10 said: years of mediocrity in the championship with no ambition to get out of it. All this talk of a plan when Scott goes and we can’t even go out and spend abit of money just to boost the quality of the squad It's disgusting of Lansdown to leave us so short of numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Army 75 Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 My only logical thought to this, is he must be close to selling the club. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hxj said: Seems to me that everyone hated the apparent 'pointless splurge' under the previous characters and now hate the 'pointless restraint' under the current characters. Speaking for myself it wasn't the 'splurge' that was hated under the previous characters but the pointlessness... ...EDIT: beaten to it by @Lew-T Edited August 31, 2023 by Red Exile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Listen to it all, especially the last half-a second. mods - please merge if need be Depressing. I said the other week that this feels like the beginning of the end for Nige and i still stand by that. He has been treated with absolute contempt by Lansdown, as @Kid in the Riot says this is 2015 playing out all over again. Why is supporting this club so ******* depressing man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Red Exile said: TC was invited onto the Board, was he not - different times, the club was run by people with the same passion as the fans on the terraces. We were all in it together. I've seen little evidence of that in recent times. He was indeed. When I say similar feel, I refer to the team only. No money to spend, youngsters and freebies, plus a couple of old heads. Just a shame we don’t have a Glyn Riley or Tom Ritchie pulling the strings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hxj said: Seems to me that everyone hated the apparent 'pointless splurge' under the previous characters and now hate the 'pointless restraint' under the current characters. Those aren’t the only options. There is a happy medium. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hxj said: I just see this as Nige being Nige. Direct and honest. Nothing else. There is a budget - I keep to it. I'd like more but so would everyone. Not my job to explain the budget. Seems to me that everyone hated the apparent 'pointless splurge' under the previous characters and now hate the 'pointless restraint' under the current characters. Nobody is advocating a splurge. Nigel wouldn't do that anyway given that he doesn't want the kind of bloated squad he inherited. But it seems reasonable to ask why a proportion of the Scott money can't be made available. It's clearly irritating him that he has to answer questions about finances while the CEO and the owner who set the budget remain silent. If anybody has gone from one extreme to the other it's Steve not the fans. 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I in no way shape or form want him back but it would be interesting to see just how Lee Johnson would do if the worst did happen and he had to work under exactly the same constraints as NP. I reckon we would sink. Sure we may win some games, have some good games but we would sink badly overall. We’d be relegated by Christmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 The only thing that could make me possibly understand is if SL is thinking that this years championship is the strongest it’s been in years and it’s not the time to go for it, if that’s not the case he can GTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, steviestevieneville said: We’d be relegated by Christmas I don't actually want him back to be clear..it would shut up anyone who said we were better under him however. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 27 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: The clip from Radio Guernsey or whatever it was? " We’ve got to bide our time and keep investing in players and wait for that moment like Luton had… it’s the only way we can do it because we can’t compete with the parachute payments that come out of the Premier League... they’re way ahead of us on spend, way ahead, and so we’ve just got to build that scenario... if we could sell players for 25 million every year, you know… we’d be building that nest egg up to be able to compete in the longer term… I think this season with the squad of players we've got, we've got a real chance of, you know, of competing at the top end of the table and maybe we'll strike it lucky... that's the way we've got to look at it... we never stop, we never stop recruiting, we never stop scouting, we never stop trying to develop our players and we obviously want to do as well as we possibly can, we've got a great stadium, fantastic training facilities and the squad is, it's a young squad, we've got some good experienced players in there as well alongside them and we've got the makings of a promotion winning side if we can get that little bit of luck and consistency " Oh you can supply that can you Lansdown....................no, the only thing you CAN supply is access to the money and you're not doing that ,so what is the point of you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Partly because we have a chairman who for all his privilege has to be about as poor a public speaker as you can get. Literally can’t get full sentences out without stumbling over his words. What a waste of money that expensive education was You can't educate pork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 Hopefully SL won't sanction the sale of anyone tomorrow, Nige will not be best pleased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: My only logical thought to this, is he must be close to selling the club. That’s my take as well. The club has £35M income on its books for this season and has spent a small fraction of that. A prospective buyer will see a profit this season, a chance to start with a clean slate and no debt, a manager whose contract expires at the end of this season, so little or no compensation payable and a chance to bring their own people in. As much as I respect the cash SL has put into the club his legacy remains one of failing to achieve the possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I see zero sign that NP is off before his contract is up. Actually one of his more relaxed press conferences. Seems like he's just being himself and answering the questions asked of him. He'd like more money etc, but understands the situation. I think reading quotes form it in isolation and imaging his tone etc. is very different to how it all comes across here. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If Cashflow is the issue, then explain so. We know it’s not FFP. But Ian, don’t forget the quote - “if we can sell a player for £25m…nest egg” This isn’t about instalments, it is SL not wanting to use the money. It wont be cash flow. There are banks that will lend clubs cash using future installments as security. Think its fairly common practice for clubs who want instant access to transfer cash that would normally be paid in instalments. The money would be available if there was a desire to spend it, but I agree it seems as though there isn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Hopefully SL won't sanction the sale of anyone tomorrow, Nige will not be best pleased! Screams of a big Vyner bid coming in which we accept and panic to get a loan in just to cover it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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