bcfc01 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 As it appears we will now be reverting to the MA/LJ type structure with Tinnion as Technical Director rather than CEO or DoF, it would seem to cross off many managerial types from the availability list in favour of a youngish head coach. So, with that in mind, what candidates who are out there would be suitable ? I'm thinking it will probably be someone from a lower league club already doing a similar job with some success or from a club higher up currently in an assistant role. I'll start the ball rolling with Luke Williams or maybe Ali Hines as an internal appointment (cue a meltdown). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bearded_red Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2023 This absolute ******* king. 10 2 1 6 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 “Start the ball rolling “? Have you looked anywhere else on here the past 24 hours?!! 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, italian dave said: “Start the ball rolling “? Have you looked anywhere else on here the past 24 hours?!! Yep. But they are all the usual ones on the merry-go-round. I'm thinking youngish and coach, not manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) I wonder if they will be looking at McKenna types especially and to a lesser degree those of a similar profile to Carrick perhaps. Granted less so as Middlesbrough reinvest more, didn't nearly run aground with FFP etc. "If they can do it, why can't we". Etc. Edited October 31, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Maybe Curtis Fleming, as we know Steve no longer wants to put his hand in his pocket (though to be fair, a football club is a bottomless pit when it comes to spending cash). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... Can’t get a price on Williams despite asking several times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I know nothing about Williams if anyone fancies sharing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, mozo said: I know nothing about Williams if anyone fancies sharing? no idea on his style of play but was gaffer at Swindon and currently Notts County as well as Russell Martin's #2 at MK Dons & Swans. Was our u23 coach in the LJ era... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the net Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... And assisted by Ryan Harley, formerly of this parish. Hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, devoncider said: no idea on his style of play but was gaffer at Swindon and currently Notts County as well as Russell Martin's #2 at MK Dons & Swans. Was our u23 coach in the LJ era... So not a big step up then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... Yep, posted this before Nige was sacked. Him or Liam Manning would be the most likely, I reckon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, devoncider said: Was our u23 coach in the LJ era... Yes, and left under a bit of a cloud. But I don't think that would prohibit him from coming back. Doing a good job at Notts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry R Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I'd be lumping on Williams if a bookie offered some odds. Would explain why they clearly aren't ready to announce as would take compo and negotiations. But he'd almost certainly want the move so it would happen if we make the approach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinMan's left peg Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I also know nothing about Williams but on the face of it would seem to be history repeating itself with Lee Johnson mark 2. If he does get the job I’ll wish him well and give my support etc but it’s a massive massive risk isn’t it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Kid in the Riot said: Yes, and left under a bit of a cloud. But I don't think that would prohibit him from coming back. Doing a good job at Notts. He definitely fits the profile of a Lansdown appointment; a familiar face, cheap, unproven, unlikely to rock the boat... But it would be a punt wouldn't it?! A massive gamble. For anyone else as ignorant as me: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67090256 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... Yep. 7 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Yep, posted this before Nige was sacked. Him or Liam Manning would be the most likely, I reckon. Heard the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, mozo said: I know nothing about Williams if anyone fancies sharing? Notts County one of the best playing sides I watched last season. Seriously impressive. I certainly wouldn’t be against it. Fits the bill. Always spoke really well in the 23s media bits too. Left under a dark cloud, but no idea if that was to do with the club, or just Ashton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeOTIB Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I personally would like to see us go for Scott Parker. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, JakeOTIB said: I personally would like to see us go for Scott Parker. I’d prefer for JL to have a go than Parker! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, JakeOTIB said: I personally would like to see us go for Scott Parker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCT10 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... By "right type" you mean "yes man" ? He was part of that Swindon set up as assistant to Lee Power the Chairman-Manager... Mark Cooper and Martin Ling didn't hang around Power for long... Williams was there throughout and eventually became full time manager. Looks perfect for a chairman/DoF that want to dictate the managers team selection. Neither Williams or Manning are particularly inspiring to me... how they can be considered an improvement on Pearson I find mind boggling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, petehinton said: Notts County one of the best playing sides I watched last season. Seriously impressive. I certainly wouldn’t be against it. Fits the bill. Always spoke really well in the 23s media bits too. Left under a dark cloud, but no idea if that was to do with the club, or just Ashton. Cheers mucker. That does sound promising. I do worry though about the huge step up. Looks risky to me and he didn't seem especially charismatic in 1 minute interview I watched, but that's not necessarily something to judge him by. Whoever gets the role needs to super effective on the training ground, in the dressing room and pitchside and they have to be able to handle the heat, especially given the circs. BIG job for a L2 gaffer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Yep, posted this before Nige was sacked. Him or Liam Manning would be the most likely, I reckon. Yep, Williams and Manning both appear to favour high press, high intensity games and both have a good reputation for bringing young players through. Williams has the edge I would say, purely because of the City/Tinnion connection but Manning has been operating at a higher level. 1 minute ago, DCT10 said: By "right type" you mean "yes man" ? He was part of that Swindon set up as assistant to Lee Power the Chairman-Manager... Mark Cooper and Martin Ling didn't hang around Power for long... Williams was there throughout and eventually became full time manager. Looks perfect for a chairman/DoF that want to dictate the managers team selection. Neither Williams or Manning are particularly inspiring to me... how they can be considered an improvement on Pearson I find mind boggling Due deference to Nigel but we're discussing the prospect of a Technical Director/Head Coach set up and who would fit into it. Williams is not a yes man as far as I can make out and I would hope that the HC selects the team ala MA/LJ set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the net Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: Notts County one of the best playing sides I watched last season. Seriously impressive. I certainly wouldn’t be against it. Fits the bill. Always spoke really well in the 23s media bits too. Left under a dark cloud, but no idea if that was to do with the club, or just Ashton. Managed Conway and Bell in the U23's for a bit during his time here. It wouldn't surprise me, and maybe a little bit more forward thinking than the likes of Rowett, Nathan Jones et al. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, petehinton said: Left under a dark cloud, but no idea if that was to do with the club, or just Ashton. Neither, as I heard. We have some parents of academy players, or people that know the academy set-up better than me, who can maybe comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eddie Notgetinya Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Back of the net said: Managed Conway and Bell in the U23's for a bit during his time here. It wouldn't surprise me, and maybe a little bit more forward thinking than the likes of Rowett, Nathan Jones et al. Surely Rowett can’t be considered now the club are on record saying they want to play on the front foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Ian Evatt could be a good option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Luke Williams is definitely the right type they're looking for & if true that he still gets on well with Tinnion then... I think he's top of my list right now by some distance, and that is so depressing. Aside of course from getting Nige back. Edited October 31, 2023 by nebristolred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Kevin muscatt might have applied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, bearded_red said: This absolute ******* king. Well, apart from his win ratio… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Unless Mr Lansdown has Pep Gaurdiola lined up I would suggest there are few around who are upgrades on NP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Well, apart from his win ratio… It’s not all about win ratios when he had to sort out the complete mess we were in thanks to crayjon and pappa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, mozo said: Cheers mucker. That does sound promising. I do worry though about the huge step up. Looks risky to me and he didn't seem especially charismatic in 1 minute interview I watched, but that's not necessarily something to judge him by. Whoever gets the role needs to super effective on the training ground, in the dressing room and pitchside and they have to be able to handle the heat, especially given the circs. BIG job for a L2 gaffer. It is, but Rob Edwards shows that a genuinely very good coach coming into the right environment means it matters not the league you’re in. My hunch is that’s exactly what the club want to go down. Someone who’s a ‘first’ for the club, we’re not just another club they’ve succeeded at in their cv, ala Pearson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Ian Evatt could be a good option Why on earth would he leave a similar sized club in the North who are 3rd, so in with a very good chance of promotion, to join us? Gary Owers said him too, I can’t believe for a moment he’d be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I’ve requested a price for both Manning and Williams. I’ll post the link when I get a response if anyone wants it. Bet responsibly. When the fun stops, stop. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 54 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Can’t get a price on Williams despite asking several times who with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, slartibartfast said: who with ? Skybet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: Bet responsibly. When the fun stops, stop. this should have been Lansdowns motto, but unfortunately..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpole Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Kevin muscatt might have applied He would clash with the Lansdowns and BT Surely Ryan Mason falls into this category now??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, petehinton said: Interesting. I posted on another thread last night about how I was impressed by how Rowett set his Millwall side up against us in Dec 2019. I mentioned how it was the first time I’d really seen someone playing a 3-2-5. Williams is similar. I’ve no idea how Rowett went from this exciting 3-2-5 to football that even Millwall fans thought was dull. Edited October 31, 2023 by Harry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: Surely Rowett can’t be considered now the club are on record saying they want to play on the front foot I don't think it'll be Rowett, no. I suppose Wade Elliott should be mentioned if we're talking about young training pitch coaches with previous experience here. Literally lives about 5m walk from Ashton Gate too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Lee Johnson at the HPC today apparently.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Ian Evatt could be a good option Not for me, got a touch of Mark Ashton about him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTuga Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 45 minutes ago, mozo said: I know nothing about Williams if anyone fancies sharing? Uses a 3 centre back system, massive focus on possession (Notts has averaged over 60% both last year in the National League and so far this year in League Two). This article is a good read and goes a little more in depth. As others have mentioned he's worked here before with the youth sides so I imagine he'll be somewhat familiar with the lads who've made the step up from the academy. I mentioned it in another thread but he's probably the only realistic option where I'd still be excited to have him on despite all the turmoil that seems to be happening around the club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Lee Johnson at the HPC today apparently.... Imagine the content 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Lee Johnson at the HPC today apparently.... Quickly assembling my pitchfork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Give me Luke Williams over any of the usual suspects appearing on the betting shortlists anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Surprised no-one has mentioned Steven Schumacher at Plymouth. Done a great job since Lowe moved to PNE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, RobinTuga said: Uses a 3 centre back system, massive focus on possession (Notts has averaged over 60% both last year in the National League and so far this year in League Two). This article is a good read and goes a little more in depth. As others have mentioned he's worked here before with the youth sides so I imagine he'll be somewhat familiar with the lads who've made the step up from the academy. I mentioned it in another thread but he's probably the only realistic option where I'd still be excited to have him on despite all the turmoil that seems to be happening around the club. Thanks. What happened to him at Swindon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Lee Johnson at the HPC today apparently.... Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Barrs Court Red said: Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, mozo said: Thanks. What happened to him at Swindon? He was just going round in circles 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Why on earth would he leave a similar sized club in the North who are 3rd, so in with a very good chance of promotion, to join us? Gary Owers said him too, I can’t believe for a moment he’d be interested. Not sure that’s a strong reason.It is a step up even if not huge and managers like making step ups. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nomad said: Surprised no-one has mentioned Steven Schumacher at Plymouth. Done a great job since Lowe moved to PNE. They’re in our division. Their owner is sound. He doesn’t get any interference from a DoF. Why on earth would he move here? 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, RobinTuga said: Uses a 3 centre back system, massive focus on possession (Notts has averaged over 60% both last year in the National League and so far this year in League Two). This article is a good read and goes a little more in depth. As others have mentioned he's worked here before with the youth sides so I imagine he'll be somewhat familiar with the lads who've made the step up from the academy. I mentioned it in another thread but he's probably the only realistic option where I'd still be excited to have him on despite all the turmoil that seems to be happening around the club. Did he have cash to spend - perhaps not Wrexham levels but more than the competition? Regardless, 100+ points always impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Lee Johnson at the HPC today apparently.... Don’t think they’re stupid enough to do that. Imagine the backlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: They’re in our division. Their owner is sound. He doesn’t get any interference from a DoF. Why on earth would he move here? Well he wouldn’t have to live in Janner land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Glen hump said: He was just going round in circles We've all been there, sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Be worth hiring Williams just for the possibility of another 'Conference Manager' thread if he goes on a bad run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Homer Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I would have Williams here, solely for the fact I can't remember the last time we had a manager/head coach who was follically challenged and had a bit of the extremely light blond in his beard. Would certainly make me feel better about how I have aged anyway! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I do quite like the idea of Evatt but I prefer the idea of NP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: They’re in our division. Their owner is sound. He doesn’t get any interference from a DoF. Why on earth would he move here? I didn't say he would, did I? I said, I'm surprised no-one has mentioned him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Is our aspirations really as low as wanting someone who was managing in non league last season and who'd previously been sacked by Swindon? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Did he have cash to spend - perhaps not Wrexham levels but more than the competition? Regardless, 100+ points always impressive. And 117 goals with a +75 goal difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, RobinTuga said: Uses a 3 centre back system, massive focus on possession (Notts has averaged over 60% both last year in the National League and so far this year in League Two). This article is a good read and goes a little more in depth. As others have mentioned he's worked here before with the youth sides so I imagine he'll be somewhat familiar with the lads who've made the step up from the academy. I mentioned it in another thread but he's probably the only realistic option where I'd still be excited to have him on despite all the turmoil that seems to be happening around the club. That'll bring on a few heart attacks with Naismith at the back, and Atkinson due to come back !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Surprised no one has mentioned Alan Pardew - he's been seen in Clifton apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 The real concern for me is them having to kowtow to BT, regardless of their credentials 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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