Day of reckoning?

[42nite]

11 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I think the major question is whether Fleming has definitely gone. If that gets confirmed then it surely must mean we are about to appoint today? 

This.

For all of those that said CF was sacked saturday after the match.... was he?

 

 

[Phileas Fogg]

I’d rather be in a situation where we have no idea than an inevitable trickle of news reports leading to Ali Durden confirmation that we are appointing Gary Monk 2 days before it happens. At least we have some suspense.

[Terry Boyle's Perm]

My fear would be that with the love affair the board has with Luton it’ll be Nathan Jones

[CliftonCliff]

Well, thanks for all the responses, guys. It’s affirming in one way, at least. Either I’m not just a cynical, miserable old git, or if I am, I’m in good company.

For the sake of clarity, there are limits on my negativity. I will not in any sense be against the new guy - well, not unless it’s bloody Warnock or something equally horrific. I’m still a supporter, have been for over 60 years, and I’ll want them to do well.

I think all I was trying to say is that in order to justify the massive upheaval and the almost arbitrary sacking of four very good people, you have to be be able to say that, as a direct result of those actions, the club in the coming weeks is in a better place than it was the week before last.

I’m going to need a lot of convincing.

[SDBS36]

My fear is we will promote from with in again as we have done before and not take this chance to progress 

[CliftonCliff]

10 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Well we have got tp  replace one of our top managers the club has every had, so yes cant get excited. I remember when the great Harry Dolman announced our new manager Alan Dicks. Alan who we all said and the rest is history. Just trying to stay a little bit positive.

Well said and fair comment. I can remember the Alan who? reaction, as well. I guess you never know.

[CliftonCliff]

2 minutes ago, SDBS36 said:

My fear is we will promote from with in again as we have done before and not take this chance to progress 

Well, at this stage that would require that the last man standing, Fleming, is still in employment, which according to the ITK mob, he isn’t.

[Club and Country]

Unless it's really left field and been kept incredibly quiet I personally can't see it being today 

or off course could be someone who is out of work 

yep, no idea

[Curr Avon]

54 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Assuming the last things I read here last night are correct and today’s the day we find out the nature of the Lansdown’s latest master stroke, I woke this morning feeling oddly indifferent about what’s to come. I say “oddly”, because along with many others I have been animatedly engaged, online and in person with friends, in hot debate about the week’s events. In short, these things mattered to me, a lot.

So, it seems in one way strange to  discover that as we wait to be told the identity of our new head coach, I find a large part of me all of a sudden doesn’t really care. I think this is partly because I fully expect to be underwhelmed by the announcement: it would be typical of all things BCFC if the drama of the last eight days was a prelude to the appointment of someone as inspiring as, say, Gary Rowett, or rather, since we know it’s highly unlikely to be him, someone of a similarly mediocre calibre.

But even if it should turn out that we are pleasantly surprised, I suspect the feeling will still be somewhat hollow, because if we can take one lesson from what’s happened, it’s that the core problem facing the club is not who we appoint to HC or manager, his assistants or the head of the medical department, and that whatever changes are implemented today may well make very little difference to the club’s trajectory. We already had, in the opinion of many, a more than adequate team in charge and I cannot convince myself that sacking the whole lot of them and installing replacements is going to impact much in the long run on the dysfunctional manner in which the club is run.

I sincerely hope I’m proven wrong in this. It sounds negative and depressing, I know, but I also think it’s a not unrealistic appraisal. Am I alone in feeling quite flat about the impending news, rather than excited?

So sayeth the shepherd

So sayeth the flock

Now get the flock out of here!

[Curr Avon]

52 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I'm sitting here beside myself

No. That's called a mirror Tone.

[DaveF]

Mannings odds shortening considerably this morning.

[Major Isewater]

54 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I'm sitting here beside myself

Both of you ? 

[Bcfc24]

Just waiting for the Bristol Live announcement that it won’t be today and the club aren’t close to making an appointment….

[Eddie Hitler]

Just now, Bcfc24 said:

Just waiting for the Bristol Live announcement that it won’t be today and the club aren’t close to making an appointment….

 

I am quivering with the anticipation of just such a missive.

[Nuno Gomes]

53 minutes ago, Antman said:

can i suggest a new verb to be "Lansdowned' ?

it's not unlike paying to be mugged by a clown, you start with a sense of wonder, distraction and excitement at the bright colours and face paint, happy to hand over your hard earned cash,  but rapidly you are left with a sense of anger and frustration, only to find out some time later what you have lost exactly.

 

 

I think you find that is an adjective.  The verb is To be.  
 

Couldn’t help it!

[petehinton]

31 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I think the major question is whether Fleming has definitely gone. If that gets confirmed then it surely must mean we are about to appoint today? 

If it gets announced then yeah, I’d say that’s a sign for sure. If it doesn’t, and he still has left, tbey obviously just want to clear the decks for the new guy to say we have space for your men, and Hines/Cisse/King lead training this week

[LoyalRed]

20 minutes ago, Harry R said:

I'm clearly in a minority here but, while I didn't want Pearson sacked, I do find the idea of appointing a promising coach with plenty of upside a bit exciting. It's a risk, but it's one way to potentially outperform your wage budget in this league. And if it's Manning, he also has a reputation for playing good football.

"he also has a reputation for playing good football".. The same was said for Erik ten Hag at Ajax & Steve Cotterill of Bristol City in L1.  Performing well in an inferior league doesn't count for much.

[Cidre Monita]

54 minutes ago, rednotblue said:

Looking forward to Jon Lansdown being appointed. His previous success as an armchair fan makes him ideally suitable. He has a deep understanding of players conditioning and wont allow them time off on international breaks. He will combine his role as chairman with head coach making him the ultimate yes man. With a top ten budget and a good enough squad anything less than the playoffs will be deemed a failure.

 

I look forward to automatic promotion under the expert stewardship of JL. Bloody Nigel Pearson holding us back all those years. 

[Curr Avon]

10 minutes ago, Club and Country said:

Unless it's really left field and been kept incredibly quiet I personally can't see it being today 

or off course could be someone who is out of work 

yep, no idea

[GrahamC]

26 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Well we have got tp  replace one of our top managers the club has every had, so yes cant get excited. I remember when the great Harry Dolman announced our new manager Alan Dicks. Alan who we all said and the rest is history. Just trying to stay a little bit positive.

Take your point but Harry (bless him) hasn’t been with us for many years.

It is the Lansdowns now & look at their track record.

[handsofclay]

The day of reckoning will be May 4th, when we have either made the top six or we haven't.

[One Team]

4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Take your point but Harry (bless him) hasn’t been with us for many years.

It is the Lansdowns now & look at their track record.

Indeed Graham. It’s the “one for fans to get excited about” statement for me. I get they will always say positive things about a new manager or coach, just can’t see some of names being linked, particularly Manning, falling into that category. 

[GrahamC]

8 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If it gets announced then yeah, I’d say that’s a sign for sure. If it doesn’t, and he still has left, tbey obviously just want to clear the decks for the new guy to say we have space for your men, and Hines/Cisse/King lead training this week

Alex Ball too.
He was prominent amongst the many on the touchline on Robins TV last week.

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, CliftonCliff said:

Assuming the last things I read here last night are correct and today’s the day we find out the nature of the Lansdown’s latest master stroke, I woke this morning feeling oddly indifferent about what’s to come. I say “oddly”, because along with many others I have been animatedly engaged, online and in person with friends, in hot debate about the week’s events. In short, these things mattered to me, a lot.

So, it seems in one way strange to  discover that as we wait to be told the identity of our new head coach, I find a large part of me all of a sudden doesn’t really care. I think this is partly because I fully expect to be underwhelmed by the announcement: it would be typical of all things BCFC if the drama of the last eight days was a prelude to the appointment of someone as inspiring as, say, Gary Rowett, or rather, since we know it’s highly unlikely to be him, someone of a similarly mediocre calibre.

But even if it should turn out that we are pleasantly surprised, I suspect the feeling will still be somewhat hollow, because if we can take one lesson from what’s happened, it’s that the core problem facing the club is not who we appoint to HC or manager, his assistants or the head of the medical department, and that whatever changes are implemented today may well make very little difference to the club’s trajectory. We already had, in the opinion of many, a more than adequate team in charge and I cannot convince myself that sacking the whole lot of them and installing replacements is going to impact much in the long run on the dysfunctional manner in which the club is run.

I sincerely hope I’m proven wrong in this. It sounds negative and depressing, I know, but I also think it’s a not unrealistic appraisal. Am I alone in feeling quite flat about the impending news, rather than excited?

To be honest, I’m resigned to the fact, “it’s their club” they can do what they want, I’m powerless, “that’s football” and “be careful what you wish for” as if what I wish for will make a blind bit of difference.
JL and BT have nailed their colours to the mast, if this move fails they have full accountability, however they spin it in the future. It might well be the magic move we’ve all been dreaming of, who knows.

See what transpires this week.

Up the City!! ️

[Curr Avon]

16 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Mannings odds shortening considerably this morning.

I can't to join the Brotherhood of Manning. Save, your, City for me, Save Bristol City for me...

Edited November 6, 2023 by Curr Avon

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, BigTone said:

I'm sitting here beside myself

Is there enough room?

[GrahamC]

7 minutes ago, One Team said:

Indeed Graham. It’s the “one for fans to get excited about” statement for me. I get they will always say positive things about a new manager or coach, just can’t see some of names being linked, particularly Manning, falling into that category. 

No idea.

If it was a guy from Bundesliga 2 or elsewhere in Europe then I certainly get how you can claim that.

If it’s Manning, I do understand the logic but it’s more of a gamble, though would get the narrative that it is a sea change but hard to dress that up as “exciting”, more a different approach.

Edited November 6, 2023 by GrahamC

[downendcity]

31 minutes ago, Terry Boyle's Perm said:

My fear would be that with the love affair the board has with Luton it’ll be Nathan Jones

He hasn't been gone nearly long enough!

[tin]

I have zero faith in the Lansdowns or Tinnion. If they had a clear plan, they’d have had the new man in place by now like they did with LJ. As such, it appears - not for the first time - they have no succession plan. 

And I won’t even go into their track record of appointing managers or coaches. The evidence is there for all to see. Where’s Keith Dawe when we need him?!

[SDBS36]

22 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Well, at this stage that would require that the last man standing, Fleming, is still in employment, which according to the ITK mob, he isn’t.

Hope that’s true, just Nigel apart we always seem to take what seems to be the cheap option