W-S-M Seagull Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: What changed? With the void left by not having a CEO, Tinnion was able to take on more power. He decided he was able to influence team selection for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Son of Fred said: Oh to be young again those were the days my friend. I thought they would never end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said: With the void left by not having a CEO, Tinnion was able to take on more power. He decided he was able to influence team selection for example. Is this fact now? I thought it was just conjecture based on people's interpretation of Pearson's interview, but fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: I would expect MK Don's losing their main 2 players to have more effect on their squad than us losing 1 or 2 of our key players. It certainly looked like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: With the void left by not having a CEO, Tinnion was able to take on more power. He decided he was able to influence team selection for example. Tinnion the stalking horse. Tinnion the power hungry usurper. He pretended for years he was just a committed member of the club with a hell of a history and suddenly morphed into Dunsford's & Ashton's love child in 6 weeks All that work he's done was just a front because in reality he's a frothing megalomaniac set free to spread his evil by the psychopathic Lansdowns. Where's Thatch when you need a good boo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Is this fact now? I thought it was just conjecture based on people's interpretation of Pearson's interview, but fine. I believe so, it came out that the hierarchy had an issue with the inclusion of Andy King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 Is Manning reporting directly to Tinnion or to JL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpty Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Is Manning reporting directly to Tinnion or to JL? If he’s successful, he won’t be reporting to anyone. if he fails, he’ll report directly to Tinnion or JL, depending on who’s the favourite whipping boy at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fammyfan said: I believe so, it came out that the hierarchy had an issue with the inclusion of Andy King If the question was "why are actual centre halves not being picked or only good for the bench, instead of playing King?" Then I think that was a fair question. Whether that was Tinnion or someone else in the club we don't know, I admit Tinns does seem the most likely candidate. As it turned out, he had a reasonable game, apart from the bit where he treated the ball like it was a Shane Warne googly, but I wonder if all this would have come to a head earlier if it had gone tits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 We had loads of injuries and we didn’t have any senior defensive options on the bench and with Knight ill, I think there was a reluctance to play him (albeit he ended up coming on after 38 mins). I suppose there was the option to go with a back four of Roberts, Pring, Dickie and either Sykes or Gardner-Hickman but if Nige felt the best team on the day was to include King, it ultimately should be his decision to make. I think a lot of it is down to how it’s delivered, there’s nothing wrong with a constructive challenge on the team selection but you’d expect that it was more than that for Nige to mention it in the public domain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: If the question was "why are actual centre halves not being picked or only good for the bench, instead of playing King?" Then I think that was a fair question. Whether that was Tinnion or someone else in the club we don't know, I admit Tinns does seem the most likely candidate. As it turned out, he had a reasonable game, apart from the bit where he treated the ball like it was a Shane Warne googly, but I wonder if all this would have come to a head earlier if it had gone tits up. We had loads of injuries and we didn’t have any senior defensive options on the bench and with Knight ill, I think there was a reluctance to play him (albeit he ended up coming on after 38 mins). I suppose there was the option to go with a back four of Roberts, Pring, Dickie and either Sykes or Gardner-Hickman but if Nige felt the best team on the day was to include King, it ultimately should be his decision to make. I think a lot of it is down to how it’s delivered, there’s nothing wrong with a constructive challenge on the team selection but you’d expect that it was more than that for Nige to mention it in the public domain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Is this fact now? I thought it was just conjecture based on people's interpretation of Pearson's interview, but fine. I guess at the end of the day if true, he only tried to influence, he didn’t succeed because Nige picked King. I’ve heard all sorts, some I think sounds more likely than the other. To sit completely on the fence, Nige has asked Rennie what team he’d pick in the last, so not unreasonable to seek Tins view. There is obviously a difference between seeking a view and being given it! 44 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Is Manning reporting directly to Tinnion or to JL? We don’t know, but I suspect whichever way it is, there’ll be a dotted line into the other. 11 minutes ago, Fammyfan said: We had loads of injuries and we didn’t have any senior defensive options on the bench and with Knight ill, I think there was a reluctance to play him (albeit he ended up coming on after 38 mins). I suppose there was the option to go with a back four of Roberts, Pring, Dickie and either Sykes or Gardner-Hickman but if Nige felt the best team on the day was to include King, it ultimately should be his decision to make. I think a lot of it is down to how it’s delivered, there’s nothing wrong with a constructive challenge on the team selection but you’d expect that it was more than that for Nige to mention it in the public domain That was his rationale, there was going to be a lot of change introduced, why not add a wise-old head into the back line. You might argue a James / King double-pivot might not have the kegs either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud21 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Spreadsheet Boy said: You might argue a James / King double-pivot might not have the kegs either. Pretty sure if I was going to expect anyone to have the kegs it would be Kingy tbf. Although surprised that Nige would let them drink on a match day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Spreadsheet Boy said: I guess at the end of the day if true, he only tried to influence, he didn’t succeed because Nige picked King. I’ve heard all sorts, some I think sounds more likely than the other. To sit completely on the fence, Nige has asked Rennie what team he’d pick in the last, so not unreasonable to seek Tins view. There is obviously a difference between seeking a view and being given it! We don’t know, but I suspect whichever way it is, there’ll be a dotted line into the other. That was his rationale, there was going to be a lot of change introduced, why not add a wise-old head into the back line. You might argue a James / King double-pivot might not have the kegs either. It was a logical decision, particularly in the circumstances. I think the thought process was also likely thinking of trying to get Sykes further forward too in the RWB role he played that day, it made sense. Granted we had to change the system but we ended up winning the game, it’s frustrating that the selection was made an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: Totally agree about Dickie, but Tinnion taking the credit ? The story at the time iirc was that Sykes informed the club that Dickie wanted to leave QPR. Nothing to do with Tinnion, or scouting. Just pure luck / opportunity. Bit like when Cotts signed Wilbraham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 Is is BT our new Swiss Tony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Is is BT our new Swiss Tony? Unlike "Swiss" he has a wealth of football knowledge both playing and coaching, not enough according to some but I am not sure what additional skills they think he needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Andy082005 said: Is this thread worth reading or does it turn into another cry baby thread about ‘Nige’ being given the flick and how ‘Tins’ is a ? Surprised you are still here TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Unlike "Swiss" he has a wealth of football knowledge both playing and coaching, not enough according to some but I am not sure what additional skills they think he needs. Loyalty might be a start. Integrity....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Loyalty might be a start. Integrity....... Evidence, knowledge? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Unlike "Swiss" he has a wealth of football knowledge both playing and coaching, not enough according to some but I am not sure what additional skills they think he needs. What do you reckon is job description is ? Genuine question, as I think that might go some ways towards satisfying a number of naysayers that Tinnion is where he is because of his suitability for the role rather than any perception that he's a backstabbing arse licker (just generalising some anti comments on here). Not that it makes any difference either way of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Natchfever said: What do you reckon is job description is ? Genuine question, as I think that might go some ways towards satisfying a number of naysayers that Tinnion is where he is because of his suitability for the role rather than any perception that he's a backstabbing arse licker (just generalising some anti comments on here). Not that it makes any difference either way of course. It's interesting isn't it? I don't think those sort of roles came with a Job Description in the HR sense in the past, I suppose they might now? A Job Profile is more likely i.e. the skills and qualities of someone to take on that position, although I think it would probably be quite sketchy compared to anything you would find outside of sport. I wonder if it's worse than Sports Direct where I turned up to train their "HR" dept on their new IT system, only to find two young IT guys who knew nothing about HR and admitted there wasn't a HR department in the Company..... yet. That was 2 loooong days of training. Edited November 10, 2023 by Port Said Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: It's interesting isn't it? I don't think those sort of roles came with a Job Description in the HR sense in the past, I suppose they might now? A Job Profile is more likely i.e. the skills and qualities of someone to take on that position, although I think it would probably be quite sketchy compared to anything you would find outside of sport. I wonder if it's worse than Sports Direct where I turned up to train their "HR" dept on their new IT system, only to find two young IT guys who knew nothing about HR and admitted there wasn't a HR department in the Company..... yet. That was 2 loooong days of training. Yeah job profile much more relevant than a JD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Natchfever said: Yeah job profile much more relevant than a JD. Although of course theoretically you can't design a JP without knowing what the JD is, but as I said I don't know if our HR dept goes into that much detail for playing side roles. I mean can you imagine writing the JD and the JP for "a footballer"? Or would you need a separate one for each position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just so I can sleep tonight does spreadsheet boy wear his pants(English) outside his trousers ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, reddoh said: Just so I can sleep tonight does spreadsheet boy wear his pants(English) outside his trousers ? He doesn’t wear any…check the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud21 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Spreadsheet Boy said: He doesn’t wear any…check the pic And I hope his cape is actually a bed sheet with Johnson out on the back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Leigh of Somerset Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 19 hours ago, reddoh said: those were the days my friend. I thought they would never end. We'd sing and dance forever and a day........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Spreadsheet Boy said: He doesn’t wear any…check the pic does he take 2 gert slices of pizza to bed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Spreadsheet Boy said: He doesn’t wear any…check the pic ah commando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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