Davefevs Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: True but at a ticketed event it's the luck of the draw who gets the tickets, or should be anyway. I don't know why it's held at the H&C, on a non match day, with a limit of 200. The Q&A's I've attended were all held under the Dolman, a huge space as was. A couple were in the evening like the H&C but crucially not ticketed so anyone could turn up. Most though were either at 1pm before a match, or on an open day, so masses of fans were at the ground anyway. You could organise beforehand as much as you like these days to get the right people there asking the right questions but under the current format no guarantee any of them would get tickets. Btw, as I've said previously it was always an easy ride for the panel, there again none of the Q&A's were held at a controversial time for the club like this last one, more like an excited audience to 'welcome Steve Coppell', or those attending were charmed by GJ and Colin Sexstone. Even SL was smiley and forthcoming in those days! I was chatting to Paul Binning (Exiled Robin) about this whilst it was being planned. I don’t know if he was involved, or knew someone that was, but they wanted it away from AG - therefore to be a neutral venue. Personally I don’t think a Bristol City Fans Forum for Bristol City Fans needs to feel neutral, but I can see why they might’ve thought that way. Being mischievous, maybe it was cheaper to run away from AG than at AG! That’s not as ridiculous as I make it sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 29, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I was chatting to Paul Binning (Exiled Robin) about this whilst it was being planned. I don’t know if he was involved, or knew someone that was, but they wanted it away from AG - therefore to be a neutral venue. Personally I don’t think a Bristol City Fans Forum for Bristol City Fans needs to feel neutral, but I can see why they might’ve thought that way. Being mischievous, maybe it was cheaper to run away from AG than at AG! That’s not as ridiculous as I make it sound! The above it correct, and also the reason why it has been held away from a club building before The idea is to take it away from being a club controlled event and hold it in a less formal surround 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Harry said: I’m not suggesting that I actually want it to happen, but the freedom to be able to drink all game and watch it on tv is absolutely detrimental if the club want fans in their seats making noise. I don't know if you go to the rugby, but to their fans the game seems secondary to drinking and socialising. I would hate it if football ever got like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, phantom said: The above it correct, and also the reason why it has been held away from a club building before The idea is to take it away from being a club controlled event and hold it in a less formal surround I have a vague recollection of meetings chaired by I think Dave Lloyd(?) with the police liaison officer in attendance, can’t remember what they were intended for. Have I imagined that? Given the H and C meeting seemed to be run by Dave Barton with help from the SLO I really can’t see why it needs a neutral venue. I would like to see regular events with some perhaps pre planned questions chaired by a neutral, perhaps a BBC guy. If people want in depth answers to questions I can see no reason why the top table shouldn’t be given prior notice of those questions, so that in depth and perhaps more meaningful answers can be provided. For people who aren’t used to speaking in front of a crowd it can be quite intimidating to do it for the first time, so it’s easy to see that some of the questions rambled on or didn’t seem to have a focused point to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, RedM said: I don't know if you go to the rugby, but to their fans the game seems secondary to drinking and socialising. I would hate it if football ever got like that. Just a slight generalisation there eh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 29, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Countryfile said: I have a vague recollection of meetings chaired by I think Dave Lloyd(?) with the police liaison officer in attendance, can’t remember what they were intended for. Have I imagined that? Given the H and C meeting seemed to be run by Dave Barton with help from the SLO I really can’t see why it needs a neutral venue. I would like to see regular events with some perhaps pre planned questions chaired by a neutral, perhaps a BBC guy. If people want in depth answers to questions I can see no reason why the top table shouldn’t be given prior notice of those questions, so that in depth and perhaps more meaningful answers can be provided. For people who aren’t used to speaking in front of a crowd it can be quite intimidating to do it for the first time, so it’s easy to see that some of the questions rambled on or didn’t seem to have a focused point to make. There is definitely logic to that, and to many it's much easier to voice a certain opinion on here than face to face with someone in a room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: True but at a ticketed event it's the luck of the draw who gets the tickets, or should be anyway. I don't know why it's held at the H&C, on a non match day, with a limit of 200. The Q&A's I've attended were all held under the Dolman, a huge space as was. A couple were in the evening like the H&C but crucially not ticketed so anyone could turn up. Most though were either at 1pm before a match, or on an open day, so masses of fans were at the ground anyway. You could organise beforehand as much as you like these days to get the right people there asking the right questions but under the current format no guarantee any of them would get tickets. Btw, as I've said previously it was always an easy ride for the panel, there again none of the Q&A's were held at a controversial time for the club like this last one, more like an excited audience to 'welcome Steve Coppell', or those attending were charmed by GJ and Colin Sexstone. Even SL was smiley and forthcoming in those days! Yep, may not be a complete controlling of tickets, but it was certainly well “stage managed” in their favour. R.E draw of tickets - what I mean is, if it was a bit more organised on here, we could all apply and give any tickets to those who might be good at asking the right questions in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Alessandro said: Yep, may not be a complete controlling of tickets, but it was certainly well “stage managed” in their favour. R.E draw of tickets - what I mean is, if it was a bit more organised on here, we could all apply and give any tickets to those who might be good at asking the right questions in advance. Decent idea. @phantom I wonder if it could be put to the club that upstairs in the Hen isn't a large enough venue. The 200 tickets went in a matter of minutes didn't they? I don't see why it couldn't be double that number in a different venue. More numbers might encourage some more interesting questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Decent idea. @phantom I wonder if it could be put to the club that upstairs in the Hen isn't a large enough venue. The 200 tickets went in a matter of minutes didn't they? I don't see why it couldn't be double that number in a different venue. More numbers might encourage some more interesting questions. They went much quicker this year than last. Maybe more tickets were available? I think I managed to get one last year days after..suppose we had a more stable structure in situ in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Another one for @OliOTIB In terms of a hypothetical Atyeo 70-30 split Says 3,980 for rugby and 3,734 for football after Segregation. This is a reported Atyeo capacity. Then the problem of rejigging comes abour if promoted, 10% of capacity or 3k, whichever is lower and what if the theoretical 15% for FA Cup games? Would work in the League ie Championship, FA Cup seems a bigger issue. Albeit our max Atyeo capacity for football seems like 3.4-3.5k atm anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 29, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Decent idea. @phantom I wonder if it could be put to the club that upstairs in the Hen isn't a large enough venue. The 200 tickets went in a matter of minutes didn't they? I don't see why it couldn't be double that number in a different venue. More numbers might encourage some more interesting questions. Certainly will raise it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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