Cowshed

48 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Confirmation bias though isn’t it?  

Its qualified referees interpreting a decision using rules that omit bias.

48 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

  All we see is a Penlaty

Several posters above your post have differing views. I see a foul on the PNE player.

4 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

Semenyo is past him. The defender bungling into him is unlucky but it is clumsy. He also doesn’t try to play the ball. He just runs into him. It is a pen and one you’d expected given 90% of the time. It is given even more a division higher. 

If you are interested in referees views the incident is discussed on the referees site refs chat. The full house is so far is no foul. 

PNE -BCFC | RefChat - The Refereeing Forum

Just now, JoeAman08 said:

100% looking for it like all strikers would. As said, he changed the angle to cut across the defender. It is the defenders responsibility to pull out of the challenge or give away the foul. You can say that is a no win for the defender but is the price he pays for allowing AS to go past him in the first place. 

It is not defenders responsibilty to alter his path. Semenyo has to run around him and fails to do so.  

1 hour ago, IAmNick said:

Check out the clip I posted yesterday: https://streamja.com/29M0k

First angle for me he's mid dive when he gets clipped, or at least a pretty unnatural leg movement

The opponent does not have to concede space there as he is in playable distance of the ball. Semenyo can't play the ball into the opponents path and then clip his opponent to gain a penalty. 

On 26/01/2022 at 14:36, Monkeh said:

A keepers job isn't to play 40 yard balls to feet, it's to keep the ball out if the net

The following is part of a pro coach goal keeper assessment.

 Goalkeeper qualities

Tactical

Interventions outside the box

Building attacks.

Resetting possession. 

Understanding of team shape

Technical

Catching and punching crosses

Distribution skills

Shot stopping

 Physical

Agility

Reflexes

Strong

Psychological

Communicates

Concentration

Confident

Dominant

Mentally tough - Recovers from mistakes

The qualities vary depending on team approach and its formations - Playing with the feet can be up to 60%+ of a keepers game, shot stopping less than 10%.

35 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Response to the thread title: don’t know…Pat Mountain was doing defensive set-pieces last season.

Back on December I watched every corner we’d defended all season….we conceded 1 goal all season, O’Hare’s for Coventry, where we actually won the first ball, but it dropped to him.

We lined up with 4 across the 6 yard box zonally, typically:

• Weimann - corner of 6 yd box, ready to engage a short corner, or the low cross
• Martin - level with near post, his job to win the near post corner
• Kalas / Atkinson (or Baker) - mid goals / back post line

we then had the 6 other players picking up / blocking.

It was successful.

What has changed?

In some games where we’ve conceded:

• Martin being off the pitch
• 10 men (King sending off at QPR, Vyner physio last night), so one less player to deal with it.

But the other factor, might be O’Leary.

I generally think we have lost “inches” and “markers”, e.g. a bit if height lost in Baker and Atkinson, and we have a few more players on the pitch not great at marking / challenging aerially in our own box.  It’s easy to say, why is Massengo marking player x, but in the 4 zonal, 6 markers, he’s gonna have to be a marker.  Depending on who gets blocked off etc, can leave him exposed.

We therefore need to be smarter, e.g. holding, blocking, setting a different line etc.

Same principles for free-kicks.  Did we need two in the wall last night?

 

 

 

If you want to use technical terms that is hybrid (zonal and man marking) defending, and a four (four zonal) and (five man marking/blocking). The sixth player is guarding teams going short, but it is still four and five.  I dont watch enough of City to comment, but an answer can be have they altered the four to five thus lacking blockers and teams then attack an area they can overload to create freerer runners to attack balls and mismatches too close to goal.  

On 24/01/2022 at 12:48, Alessandro said:

Without wishing to trawl over old ground, I have to agree with this: LJ tried to and did blood some youngsters and the reality is with time/hindsight, only Kelly has gone on to prove capable at this level or above. 

Under Pearson we have a manager willing to and capable of blooding and developing youngsters, but it's important to say it has also coincided with a) the need to use youth to bulk the squad and b) some real talent being produced from the system put in place by the club several years ago.

Was it @Cowshed who was particularly vocal against the club with regards to the academy in recent seasons? (They seemed to have some personal experience through an acquaintance?) - What's your opinion currently? Genuine question.

I had no crystal ball. I reiterated what coaches had told me. 

I was posting about a dumbing down of the academy and a lack of joined up thinking. I formerly posted that Tinnion was in danger of leaving the club, and that coaches were unhappy with how homegrown talent was being overlooked. Days later the same appeared in the Bristol post. I didn't make it up, the Bristol post didn't either, it was what was being said within the FC. Coaches were utterly exasperated by seeing dross being paid handsomely to do what youngsters here could do as well and better. Young players get damaged that way because they are denied opportunity and experience.

The later elevation of Brian Tinnions role and influence is helping create the success of promoting promising players. City finances lead to a position of highlighting we always had talent in the building v the consistent buying in of the not very good. 

14 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Played under Paul Rose (well he was a coach) and Trippy at Chippenham, what were they like as players? Rosey always came across hard as nails, wouldn’t answer him back if he had a pop.

What Melksham have done is brilliant, can’t personally bring myself to support them as I’m a Chippenham boy through family. Most of my school year were part of that Melksham side a few years ago that won the league but couldn’t go up, then eventually got promotion. Some very good players at that level, and majority of the squad were Melksham lads. Only downside was it was a bit clique, but most clubs are.

The ownership used to try and insist on using local lads, Its lost its “home grown” feel a little now they’ve moved away from that model but still some talented young lads there. The youth setup is something special too, and facilities are brilliant.

I played with Paul Rose briefly. Aggressive, good in the air and vocal. His hair didn't compliment hard. 

13 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

There's no reason we can't soak up the south west as Cat 2, the nearest = or higher category academies are Cardiff, Birmingham, Southampton, Reading. That leaves the entire of the south west for City as the highest ranking academy.

Frankly that's a shit attitude on behalf of the kids/parents then, the same coaches will work with the kids whether its Cat 1 or 2, City's standards would be no higher or less being Cat 1 or 2 in how they approach what they do. 

A reason is regional coverage. Other clubs coach more kids and have more coaches and scouts. Exeter have a regional network of development centres. Bristol City  have/had two. Exeter have a broader contact with more talent.

Cat 1 v 2 can be an argument of what the club provides. Parents heads can be swayed and reasonably so by a club offering private schooling - Southampton as a cat 1 academy do this BCFC do not.

However cat 1v 2 v 3 also can mean extra coaching 1 -1 hours. Its part of the criteria, it does not have to be set in stone. A cat 3 academy can provide the same 1-1 coaching.

The posters main point about soaking up the South West is valid. Bristol City is not doing this because it needs to sharpen up its act to do so. Its coverage, involvement and contact with grass roots football and talent outside of Bristol is sparse.

2 hours ago, Portland Bill said:

I watched Paulton play Slimbridge recently, some of the football Paulton played was sublime, great to see that sort of football played in that league nowadays. 

Interesting club Paulton. They have created a broad youth set up and this season saw a sixteen year old from their development centre playing in the first team. Its not perfect or exact but some of their youth teams are very confident on the ball and looking to constantly play. That sort of football appears to be their long term goal, a non league modernist Paulton way of playing. 

Paulton v Frome new years day I think.

17 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I won’t answer that directly, as we’re talking about a volunteer coach of a youth team here, but there are a lot of sources on the web that indicate typical approaches.  For instance, believeperform.com specifically addresses this issue.  It is all about focus and avoiding distractions, and it can be coached, at any age.

Breaking the game down into tasks improves focus. Our brains focus improves as it recognises rehearsed and repititious patterns. Trigger words spark physical and mental response. We can train the brain to unclutter the pre frontal cortex, which improves focus. 

6 minutes ago, James54De said:

That first link says 

“higher odds of vaccine hesitancy were observed for all adults not educated at degree level or equivalent. The odds were highest for adults with no qualifications”

Also, @Harry, it states “Earlier research supports our findings that COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy was particularly high amongst the Black ethnic group.”. Are these researchers bigots as well? 

Highest education level  One in 10 (10%) adults educated below degree level reported vaccine hesitancy. This was slightly higher than the rates of vaccine hesitancy for adults educated at degree level or equivalent, adults with "other" qualifications or no qualifications (8%, 7% and 7% respectively).

You are arguing about a %. The underlined figure is those with no qualifications.

I made no point about bigotry. 

11 minutes ago, James54De said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159121001100

Explain. Above link says

“Focus on ethnic minority and socioeconomic groups is needed during vaccine delivery.”

 

I answered.

5 hours ago, James54De said:

Probably social media. There’s a direct correlation between education level and proportion of population vaccinated. 

Here is the data.

Coronavirus and vaccine hesitancy, Great Britain - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

The least educated (no qualifications) had a lower rate of vaccine hesistancy than people with degrees. 

There is further data from differing timescales but it doesnt break down groups using education as a measurement.

Coronavirus and vaccine hesitancy, Great Britain - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

1 hour ago, James54De said:

There is a direct and proven correlation between education level and vaccine hesitancy. 

Is there?

Vaccine hesitancy across groups with degrees was 8%. It was lower amongst the populace with no qualifcations at all at 7%. 

26 minutes ago, tin said:

Why couldn’t he see the ball, though? Because he was being pulled left, right and centre. The first tug was made by Chester IMO, hence six of one and half a dozen of the other and no penalty.

Because his position alters. If he stays with the defending principle of face up and ball and man he can then impede the player more efficiently.      

1 hour ago, tin said:

Classic case of six of one and half a dozen of the other to me.

Having watched a re-run on Sky today, their bias was cringeworthy. 

A technical point was made. Citys player does not look at the ball. The offending defending ignores the basic defensive triangle principle. If you cannot see both ball and man you cannot defend them. Its a penalty.

39 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

When, aged 12, he told his teammates he was going to be the best player in world I reckon he'd never heard of visualization. If he died use it and it makes him feel better about himself, good. But it's the first in, last out at training, the endless repetition of heading, free-kicks, shooting that sets him apart. He scores because he's done it hundreds of thousands of times in practice.

I visualise picking multiple winners each afternoon. Doesn't work out that way. ...

I reckon he had not heard of a lot of things till he got to Sporting Lisbon then Man Utd. And what you are highlighting is a psychological growth mindset. Endless training can be ineffectual. What Ronaldo was introduced to at Sporting Lisbon and Man Utd is deliberate practice. Its whys and how skill is internalised and produced on demand is psychological.

What sets Ronaldo apart is his mindset. He is blessed physically as are millions of people but his psychological aptitude to practice and preparation is exceptional. 

In regards to his free kick yes, he used visualisation. He uses a routine. Steps, scan, ball position were used to cut out noise and doubt, but also to control his mind and breathing. He would visualise the task right down to striking the ball with the medial cuneiform just below the centre of the ball, how the strike felt and how success felt. That was couple with the deliberate intense physical practice over and over. It could also explain why since 2014 his success has dropped down to 5% from 16% pre-2014. His technique, the velocity of strike, angle etc appears not have changed so maybe his superhuman mindset has allowed human negative doubt to creep in.    

6 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Vince Lombardi, Sports greatest Psychologist, cut through all the modern day, sports mindfulness BS.

"Show me a loser & I'll show you a loser."

The desire to win at all costs is innate, you've either got it or you haven't. If you've played sport at any level you know quickly who you may dominate and those who'll pose you a problem. The very best don't need to tinker with psychologists to tell them what to do or how to improve, they just get on and do it. When the going gets tough ...

Psychologists have far greater influence in individual sports where the pace of the game is slow, there's much downtime and space for minds to wander,  but in team sports? The English cricket team have incorporated them for decades so how come they mentally imploded again yesterday?

I studied psychology at Uni and the major problem is there's little or no benchmarking. Take  'visualisation' which is often used as an example where performance may be improved. Cognitive dissonance theory explains why, if you've invested in undertaking a visualization programme, you'll claim your performance has improved (you'd look pretty stupid if it hadn't.) But that's not benchmarked against the likes of Brady, Ronaldo or Jordan who never doubted, given the relentless practice and sacrifice they put in, that they'd score, that they'd succeed. They do not visualise, they don't need to as they believe in their talent.

And whilst lesser talents as we have at City may be marginally assisted I'd suggest they be far better off learning how to kick, trap, shoot and run, learning through repetitive graft, rather than sitting contemplating their mindfulness. That's never got the ball over the head of the near post marker....

Ronaldo uses visualisation techniques. He uses mental process as a routine including visualisation with his free kick taking. 

16 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

All joking aside, do you not think that mental fitness is helpful in sport? Our honorary vice president would think that it is in all respects.

Yes. 

If you do not adopt a growth mindset (Beswick uses the term) you will not improve. We choose to fight or freeze or flight. We choose to word hard, or not. 

Mental drives physical. Physical doesn't drive mental. 

Just now, richwwtk said:

Kids are a lot more aware of things these days, especially once they start school, mainly due to access to the internet.

 

Childrens brains are not more aware of things these days. The brains development has not altered. 

2 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Some of these things need to be taught and explained fairly early on otherwise they end up getting their opinions from people thy don't know who are free to write and publish any old rubbish.

 

 It is a reason kids should not be exposed to complex issues. Psychologically they do not possess the comprehension skills to deal with complexity. 

Children should be allowed to be kids. 

5 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I never said that though, so not relevant to me?

 

 It was an example of a differing view and a relevant answer to your point.

1 hour ago, MarcusX said:

You're now taking the facts of what your friend said about using "all lives matter" on a banner and there's no way it can mean anything else to anyone.

A poster asserted the words All Lives Matter can have a non literal undeniably racist meaning due to what occurs four thousand miles away. Within this thread you take exception to a multi racial group displaying banner displaying that phrase. You used the I'm not racist trope. You feel the phrase All Lives Matter is provocative.

Others clearly have a differing views that it is not racist -. All Lives Matter can mean All Lives Matter.

9 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Ok, leaving it there, apparently 1 can mean something else to other people but the other can't. 

Again you tie yourself in knots. At no point have I said that. 

30 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

You can't see the double standards of your opinions on these two matters.

I see double standards. The scrutiny applied to the words All Lives Matter on a banner is an example. 

Just now, MarcusX said:

No you've taken the facts of what the players have said about why they are taking the knee, and said that's not true it means something else.

 

To other individuals. Which is a reality isn't it?

2 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

 

You're now taking the facts of what your friend said about using "all lives matter" on a banner and there's no way it can mean anything else to anyone.

You are tieing yourself in knots. 

Another individual stated the slogan was undeniably racist. I disagree and so do others = It can mean something very different. 

Just now, MarcusX said:

 

I think people like yourselves get too hung up on the word priviledge. Taking it too literally as having advantages or special rights.

 

What else does the word privilege mean? 

Clearly those who have compiled dictionaries were not best placed to explain the real meaning of the word.

4 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Why does distance matter? Black Lives Matter is an american political movement, so the knee here has no relevance to it then... but you insist it's intrinsically linked? You want to enforce your rules of speech / action.

 

Because what occurs here shapes our communication, our lives and experiences. Our experiences and world view can alter with our postcode. Somebody living in BS8 V BS13 can see things differently. The poster was suggesting the alien, something from four thousand miles away shapes how somebody coming from a working-class area in Bristol should think.  

The taking the of knee. It is alien to the UK. It is imported. I have stated that it represents differing things to differing people. Not one thing, only one interpretation, one rule.

13 hours ago, RedRock said:

We are soooo painfully slow in attacking mode. 
 

STOP ******* knocking around the back. Every time. Simply allows the opposition to set up their rigid defensive formation. Vary it. Just on occasions, attack with pace in a fast, direct forward movement. 
 

Sako what is the point if all you are going to do is receive, pass backwards 10 yards. 
 

No wonder Kane doesn’t get a sniff. He’s constantly surrounded by 3 defenders because they’re giving time to group up around him. 
 

Grealish was the only one who showed any spark and Southgate bewilderingly takes him off. 

England should be keeping the ball and resetting it. Building from the back has progressed the team. The personnell last night lead to slow play. Rice is no pivot and Mings lacks range. Where is the distributor? The outcome was predictable. The patterns predictable up back across etc. 

In regards to allowing the opposition to set up. Hungary were not rigid they slid and screened following the possesion. Grealish dribbling horizontally in the second third and taking multiple touches made it easier for the opposition to screen in lines. It was not fast and direct its was slow and indirect. Playing one two touch would speed patterns up. I would have kept him on but his withdrawal had some merit behind it.