cidered abroad

He weren't bad today, was he? 

Football is a funny old game.

Palmer in under 23's earlier this week got a minus 5 out of ten from me.

And then today he is the hero fir squeezing in the equalizer.

110% effort from everyone.

13 hours ago, Robbored said:

There would be a significant loss of income to professional football clubs if that ever happened and to recoup that loss ticket prices would have to go even higher and it would us fans that pay up.

Banning betting and alcohol advertising throughout the industry makes perfect sense tho.

How about a return to more sensible wages instead of selling our football club's souls?

About time that this has been formed to benefit former players and supporters.

Well done Messrs Palmer and Gould.

10 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

Was happy with a point. Gave Wells both barrells for not taking it in the corner, til the net bulged .... 

@Moments of Pleasure

Not often you get it right and you got it wrong again. 

5 hours ago, Hampshire Red said:

Gamon has a very short memory or is very young. Do you remeber the Cup run, beating Man U, giving Man C a harder game than most prem clubs do and LJ taking us to the heights of the Championship when we expected to win every game? We have gone downhill since then and no single coach, player (nor MA) is to'blame' for that. We all know SL found MA to be the first person in football he could really trust and in your personal world one should think about that.

Most people on here seem happy to criticise MAand for some reason are happy to ignore and forget the good players he brought in and the great deals he did selling players for good money to fit the business model. Complaining about an ex boss at the club has become one of the biggest yawns on here. Let's get this terrible home run under NP sorted out before forgetting where we were at pressing the top of the Championshi

See you tonight? CoYRS

Sorry @Hampshire Red but you must live on another planet. We've had bumbling managers and senior staff members and players who weren't very good but, to the best of my knowledge, only two who apparently have knowingly misbehaved for their own benefit. One was Tony Dance and the other is the mist inaptly named MA.

I doubt that SL will ever publicly admit how much he was "taken for a ride".

Fortunately it may take us a while to recover but I and many others have faith in Pearson, even if he's grumpy sometimes with media people, Gould and Dave Rennie.

11 minutes ago, Daniro said:

Not sure that middle income earners don't sing.  

Rugger b*ggers are more likely to be in that category and they can't stop singing African American spiritual songs.   Never watched egg chasing down the Gate myself - do they sing Swing Low?

NO. More likely to sing Drink up thy zider or Blackbird but only after the game.

The Chant of Bristol, Bristol again and again can get quite atmospheric at times. Even at Bears games, there are too many there just for the "Afternoon/evening" out and lots of beer. 

41 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I disagree, I remember saying in early January after a hell of a cup run (and Man City still to play) and at the top of the table the atmosphere wasn’t what it should be. You could feel a sense of nerves around the ground quite often after that Wolves game. So even when we’ve had the most successful period of the last 10 years, the atmosphere still left a bit to be desired after one bad result.

Because that is the way it usually happens at City. Even in Cotterills champions season, we lost at home to Preston and Sheffield United! The two games we needed and wanted to win and we blew them. Just like the Wolves match just after Christmas. 1-0 up against ten men and we fxxxxd up. Our goalie got sent off, Pack didn't put the ball in Row ZZ and we lose with last kick.

I've seen it all before and since. 1960 fighting relegation, Atyeo put City 2-1 up with one minute to go.

Final score City 2 Huddersfield 3. Two weeks later we are down.

1989-90 we are strolling to the Third Division championship only to blow up and give it to the renters in Bath.

We are a medium to large club in waiting. Always overtaken by the rest like Burnley, Leicester, Stoke, Southampton, Fulham, QPR, now Brentford and would anyone bet on Ipswich making it back to the Prem before us?

This post is not a moan about Pearson and the current squad.

Atmosphere only comes when there is something to trigger it. We've had three seasons before Pearson arrived, of the most boring, negative football that I can remember seeing at Ashton Gate. Even seven relegations in my time were hard to swallow but at least those players were trying to win.

So as the entertainment sank, so did our vocal involvement.

While the quality of football has been better this season, we have only scored one home goal and haven't won since January or was it February.

I and many others are hopeful that it will get better and we get wins and entertainment in home games. But it remains hope and until we get used to winning again, the crowd will thinking "What can go wrong today".

By the way, I will be at the game tomorrow, the first one since January 2020. With my luck, I'll probably see a defeat and catch the bloody Covid.

COYREDS!

0-0 so mid table on 4 points.

31 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

He was involved to at least an extent and I think he did the initial approach. However I wonder if it was known that he was leaving at that point. At the very least Pearson seems to have joined knowing the spending limitations that were likely to be in place meant the transfer policy would be very different.

That said, Pearson obviously joined until the end of the season and at a point when the transfer market was closed so there was no real risk of players being signed without his knowledge.

I think I remember seeing on net that it was Pearson who approached Lansdown direct. Don't know if my memory is correct but if so his coming did not involve the unmentionable.

16 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Seriously?

Even the most positive and optimistic fans will be bothered/worried/concerned with our dismal home form and lack of a win since January. I also suspect that Pearson, SL and the players will be extremely bothered that they cannot deliver a home win to fans that have been deprived of live football for so long.

However, I also think that many/most of those fans are able to see the bigger picture, in that the home form is not just an aberration of the Pearson era. The groundwork for all of this was well established under LJ, when his tactics of setting up for home games to counter the opposition, starting slowly, conceding the initiative and usually relying on a last ditch gun-ho attempt to salvage something from games, set in place a mentality that carried forward long after he left.

I think most also understand the absolute shambles that Pearson inherited, thanks in no small part to Ashton’s antics, and that it will not be an overnight job to reverse the trends of the last 2/3 seasons. We would have lost today’s game had it been played 6/7 months’ ago, that we didn't is down to Pearson having made us tougher to beat ( albeit that the bar was not set particularly high last season!).  

Coming into this season and based on the way we finished last season, I think that many fans were genuinely concerned that Pearson seemed unable to stop the rot , let alone turn it around. Surely, even the most sceptical can agree that so far this season shows that he has stopped the rot and has got the team showing more fight, grit and determination ( the lack of which previously was perhaps the biggest gripe among fans) and looking a more organised team. That there are still areas of weakness is clear, but Pearson seems to have a plan in place and is working to it, and crucially the players appear to have bought into it and play for him. 

Back in May, if someone had offered us a safe mid table finish this season, I’m guessing most would have bitten their hand off. It is strange that now we seem to be headed in that direction so many fans seem unhappy with the way things are progressing. With limited financial means at his disposal, thanks to Ashton’s regime, other than arguing the toss over team selections, just what do people think Pearson can do better than he is?

 

Me too. Thanks @downendcity.

And brilliant win for Emma.

I have not seen City play live since January 2020. In the two years before then, I, and many others, could see that there was a problem. Negative tactics, lots of long term injuries were papered over by wins scraped more by luck than judgment.

Even the recruitment of a top quality manager, NP, was not enough to bring a quick recovery. We survived being relegated by a whisker and Pearson had openly admitted this.

So I find it amazing that some City fans are so critical about the performances and results this season to date.

A home draw against PNE is a disappointing result? For the last ten years, Preston have always won or drawn our matches with them.

So is a no score draw today, the disastrous result that some are saying?

Definitely not, I would say. No goals conceded and a draw that gives us two very close defeats, two draws and two away wins.

To have lost only 33% of our games so far is an achievement. We are improving, not as quickly as some would like, but we are doing OK in our attempt to consolidate our place in this league.

Well done squad. Keep fighting.

No commentary.

On 02/09/2021 at 22:14, PHILINFRANCE said:

Thanks for your interesting story.

Out of curiosity, is your friend any relation to the former (excellent) local referee, Len Fricker.

@PHILINFRANCE

To best of my knowledge I don't think so. Rob Fricker was a Bemmy boy who grew up in a street off East Street. He was the Steward of the Supporters Club for many years.

I worked in same company, Colodense in West Street with Len Fricker. He refereed a Glos Cup Final at Ashton Gate in late 60's or early 70's and we gave him some strong verbals the next day because he seemed to have favoured the Gas who won.

How different then to now. I stood in the Covered End with a Gas work colleague.

1 hour ago, RedZepperin said:

Wasn't he the commercial director or something? Is he really related to MA

Not related but they both originated from the same back passage!

5 minutes ago, Fiale said:

 

It's possible that it will work out for him. Watford and us could have ironed out a few of his mistakes even if his ego still feels the need to be stoked occasionally.

 

He won't make a "value on the pitch" mistake again, and I'm sure a "Dean Holden... Best candidate" situation won't happen again....

 

He has cut their wage bill, assembled a decent squad... It's now down to can he sit back and let Cook do what he needs.... If he meddles, and makes the same mistakes then I feel sorry for Ipswich, but if he's maybe learned from twice having his actions almost catch up with him, maybe he will more careful this time.

@Fiale

Leopards are reputed to be unable to change their spots. Therefore it isn't possible to change the name Ashton or to change an Ashton's behaviour.

He will therefore be a shxxhole for the rest of his life!

We had a relative of his at City back in 1977-80 and the likeness between the two is uncanny. Tony Rance managed to achieve what the recently departed one failed to do. Be in charge when City were relegated and quite possibly one of the architects of our financial disaster a couple of years later.

It's a shame that our late Mr Ashton didn't go to Kabul Town after us. They know how to sort out problems.

59 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Not just Wilson and Skuse, but higher earners such as Chambers and Sears, together with making a couple of million on Downes and Dozzell. They’re probably fine FFP wise this year, it’s when there’s no family silver left to sell. 

FFP in League One is different to Championship.

Lge One limit is 60% of turnover on players wages. No limit on transfer fees loss.

Totally different rules to what we are bound by.

@Silvio Dante

On 22/08/2021 at 19:33, littlered said:

Having a bit of a rubbish time at the moment. Have just gone from seeing loads of friends every day to moving back to Bristol and not having many friends here at all. I'm waiting to start a new job at the moment so I'm sat around at home doing nothing all day. I know it's just a big change that I need to get used to but it's really hit home now that I have a spare ticket for Cardiff and can't find a single person to go with!! Just wanted to have a little vent, hope you're all doing okay x

@littlered

The wonderful thing that following a football, or rugby, team is that everyone at the game is a potential friend.

My father always told me while I was young that "He/Her that travels alone, travels fastest". In other words, don't wait for someone to go with you as while you travel, you meet people.

My best example with reference to City goes back to August 1959. I was 16 and went on my own by train to Sheffield leaving Temple Meads at 1 am in night. To change trains for Scunthorpe meant a ten minute walk to a different station and in that ten minutes, I met a lifelong friend. His name Bob Fricker. His friendship introduced me to many other young City fans who lived in South Bristol, I lived in Filton, including a very young Chris Garland.

Inevitability, like ships in the night, you may lose them as close friends, but with a football club, you keep them and add others.

So don't be afraid to go on your own. The Liverpool anthem says it all. "You'll never walk alone".

PS. Did you enjoy the win ?

1 hour ago, Shuffle said:

Superb signing & finally we have a presence in there. Can do the lot & looks quality & can see why Nige made him his number 1 target. On a side note thought King had his best game.

Because the two work together for each others and the team's benefit.

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Too hard to pick out individuals, but what an impact Pring has had on his start to his City first team career.

I wonder how long he has been ready for it? We went "loan em out" mad and for that reason we haven't had enough through from the Academy. 

Good performance by all but I'd like to mention our most recent Whipping Boy, Zak Vyner, who did has work quietly and efficiently today.

Sensible team selection by playing the taller players. It's not necessarily being afraid of all the high balls but just being sensible.

COYREDS

13 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I’m pretty sure that Danny Bartley played in Atyeo’s last match, the 4-1 win over Ipswich, and indeed supplied at least one of the crosses for Atyeo’s two goals (from a corner).

Agree about Crowe and Savino though, certainly never played together. Crowe was later (with Quigley and McIlmoyle).

Bartley's debut was on 28 December 1966, under the new four pylon floodlights and he played several games with Atyeo during the rest of that season. We of course lost to Wolves!

Savino played three or four with Crowd at end of 1966/7 and start of 1967/8

McImoyle arrived end of March 1967 and played his last match for us 16 Sept same year. Galley arrived 16 December same year.

Chris Garland made his debut in first match after McImoyle's last.

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

He was the gaffer when I started watching the City, we’ve had 30 since FF!

Nigel Pearson	24 Feb, 2021	Present
Dean Holden	05 Jul, 2020	24 Feb, 2021
Lee Johnson	07 Feb, 2016	05 Jul, 2020
John Pemberton	14 Jan, 2015	07 Feb, 2016
Steve Cotterill	03 Dec, 2013	14 Jan, 2015
Sean O'Driscoll	14 Jan, 2013	28 Nov, 2013
Derek McInnes	19 Oct, 2011	13 Jan, 2013
Keith Millen	12 Aug, 2010	03 Oct, 2011
Steve Coppell	11 May, 2010	12 Aug, 2010
Keith Millen	18 Mar, 2010	11 May, 2010
Gary Johnson	26 Sep, 2005	18 Mar, 2010
Keith Millen	11 Sep, 2005	26 Sep, 2005
Brian Tinnion	05 Jun, 2004	11 Sep, 2005
Danny Wilson	27 Jun, 2000	05 Jun, 2004
Leroy Rosenior	14 Jan, 2000	27 Jun, 2000
Tony Fawthrop	14 Jan, 2000	27 Jun, 2000
David Burnside	14 Jan, 2000	27 Jun, 2000
Tony Pulis	05 Jul, 1999	14 Jan, 2000
Benny Lennartsson	28 Oct, 1998	05 Jul, 1999
John Ward	27 Mar, 1997	28 Oct, 1998
Gerry Sweeney	25 Mar, 1997	27 Mar, 1997
Joe Jordan	15 Nov, 1994	24 Mar, 1997
Russell Osman	21 Jan, 1993	14 Nov, 1994
Denis Smith	09 Mar, 1992	21 Feb, 1993
Jimmy Lumsden	08 Oct, 1990	24 Feb, 1992
Joe Jordan	16 Mar, 1988	01 Sep, 1990
Terry Cooper	20 May, 1982	16 Mar, 1988
Roy Hodgson	03 Jan, 1982	30 Apr, 1982
Bobby Houghton	01 Oct, 1980	03 Jan, 1982
Alan Dicks	01 Oct, 1967	30 Sep, 1980
Fred Ford	01 Jul, 1960	30 Sep, 1967

Yet the first thirty years of watching City there were only four.

Pat Beasley, Doherty, Ford and Dicks

3 hours ago, Red Moseley said:

Could do with some midfielders with the determination, tenacity and ball winning skills of Quigley and Kellard right now. Also someone with the silky skills of Chris Crowe on the right. Iirc he once took Alex Munro of the Gas to the cleaners so often in a match at AG that Munro broke his leg with yet another flying tackle in an a final attempt to dispossess Chris.

I was there and the sound as he collided with the ringside seats was horrible. He had been trying all night to send Crowe half way up the Enclosure terracing.

Bad injury, would not normally wish it on anyone but in this case, the "biter got well and truly bitten".