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Now we play 11. men and the crowd

Oh dear.  Burns made a difference

No no Burns on

They are really going for it

Why oh why can’t we be consistently like tonight?

Just now, transfer reader said:

Weren't you wanting us to lose yesterday?

24 hours is a long time in football

What a goal.

Well done the lads

Now go for number 2

Just now, old_eastender said:

HT 0-0, still far too many back passes, but given the last 3 games, a decent half for us.

Agree, but desperate for a forward.

3 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

How on Earth can you want to lose? A win at Ipswich could be the spring board we need, any win ...but you have made your mind up, just as well you were not the one to sack Fergie when he was one defeat allegedly from the push. You drip misery not sure any new coach manager would meet with your approval. 

Football is a dynamic business just a few weeks ago we had back to back wins, and ended Saints long unbeaten run, that feeling was superb but this is the real World and throwing out the babies in the bath water is not the answer. 

I think we will be fine, but we need to be a bit more patient....it's not as if we are getting stuffed 4 or 5 the REAL problem is out misfiring strikers. If TC was on form we would be having a very different conversation.

Your question I have already answered, which incidentally a number of folk agree with.

Yes, as also said, I was a fan of Pat Beasley and many subsequent managers, not least Pearson.

If you can’t see that Manning is out of his comfort zone then so be it.  I, and many others, do.

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

There are 22 threads on page 1 of OTIB. 14 of these are anti Manning or anti BCFC. Even the Dicky player of the month opens with a 'Titanic' reference.

You have a lot of anger towards someone who appears to be stating the bleedin' obvious.

 

I don’t think anyone is anti BCFC; after all everyone is a fan.

What people are anti is the manager who is demonstrably failing, the larger entity of Bristol Sport, and the owner and Board.  They, including me, are anti because we care about long term viability of the club we love

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I cannot explain why losing is a good thing hence mad. Then again the OP has a decade of negativity behind him so maybe it's no surprise?

Oh dear you really are a one for personal and inaccurate comments.  I was fully supportive of Pearson and years ago faced criticism from some over my concerns re Lansdowns and BS.  Many more otibers now support this position.. what matters to me is the club long term.  I was, for the record, fully supportive of Pat Beasley amongst a long list of other managers.

Please just  think through what I wrote before dashing off a reply.

Quite logical position to take, if like me you think Manning will relegate us.  Little to suggest otherwise.  If we do win tomorrow we have the next two matches to negotiate with wins if Manning is truly the man Tinnion and JL clearly think he is.

Forgive me for being cynical but after 8 decades as a fan I think I am allowed to be cynical re one match.  We shall see what we shall see

Good night all, sleep well and don’t worry about the morrow.

22 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

Sometimes one needs to take a step backwards in order to go forward.

Imo we are in serious trouble with Manning in charge.

Do you really want to take a real risk of relegation if a one-off victory keeps Manning in control until last match of season?  If so, I disagree

Best winger I have seen in City shirt was Arthur Milton, even tho by then in his twilight years

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

9 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Are we though? It's Steve's money and reputation at stake. JL can be moved on and go back to Bermuda without any fuss. BT will be binned if SL thinks they're doing a bad job

But Tinnion had already done a rotten job when manager.  It beggars belief that he is now in the position he is.

He is a relic of a bygone footballing age, and one in which he was unsuccessful 

I am sorry it has come to this but I just don’t rate Mannimg and can easily see us, with a lack of confidence , to be fighting for survival.   And then don’t think Manning has the bottle for a fight.  He has failed before at lower level.

what a complete mess!

Just now, Maltshoveller said:

Sums up OTIB

Sums up the club

Opportunity Knocks.  Sadly never for us

Yes, of course, we need to lose and then move forward again, hopefully.A draw, even a win, would simply delay what is now inevitable.  Manning is far more likely to take us down to Division 1 than up into The Prem

3 minutes ago, Pippintogg said:

Up and down the country there are kids and adults wearing Liverpool, Man City, Utd etc shirts who follow PL teams despite not coming from these cities, or probably attending any games. They are followers of success,  not suupporters. My 11-year-old son doesn't. He's born in Bristol, only has City or England shirts, and a season ticket. He's a one club kid...and bored. My boy is a fantastic footballer, a striker, who understands the game, watches European football on YouTube and knows what is entertaining and successful football. How long can the current board etc expect him to watch this s**t and keep him motivated to follow his club. He's got many friends who don't want to come either. This is the future of our club, and sadly the current board are only interested in ££. Sorry SL/JL you are destroying your own future with s**t decisions. FFS sort it out  or move on.

Same for my six year old grandson living in coastal West Sussex.  After his first and only match, that against QPR, his comment was that City were idiots.  At six he can be forgiven for blaming the players.  At his age Manning should accept that he is the idiot.  

The only real positive, as I have said on an earlier occasion, is that we are nearer the end of Manning, Tinnion and, hopefully the Lansdowns.

2 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said:

In my nearly 6 decades of supporting City we have seen worse! Much worse!  Do you all remember the dreaded Pulis?

City have not lost this particular fan, but I am cheesed off with the way we are playing and that we sacked Nige, who was a leader and strong character and a real manager, and replaced him with a wimpy coach who might be better suited to working under a manager. When Manning first joined I commented on his lack of confidence and force or personality and this seems to have been a correct analysis.  A good manager would use the playing assets that he has to get the best results and change the staff over time if he wanted different qualities.

I believe that we have some very good players and the fact that they are currently below par is due to lack of leadership and motivation. With the difficult run of fixtures in the next few weeks, we may well find ourselves flirting with relegation and the Lansdowns may be forced to make a change again.  First rule of management is to not reinforce a failure - but when have they taken any notice of the rules of management?

The whole inservice training requirement in any modern business, whatever that might be, is simply lacking at Ashton Gate.

I have said for a longtime that we need to move on from 19th century management ideas.

For a brief moment with Nige and Gould, I thought the Lansdowns by sheer chance had finally got the professional approach the club had lacked for decades under SL

More fool me
 

Couldn’t go far wrong with Curtis Fleming in my opinion

Please just sell up, Mr Lansdown

The majority of us, I imagine, can’t take your custodianship of City any longer

1 minute ago, Spike said:

I think that Sporting quarter is his legacy, he gets that finished and up and then he can pass the Gate, look at the stadium and surroundings and think to himself "I did that". 

I do think he's still a City fan, I just think he knows all he has to offer is his financial strengths and that he'll not get us to the Premier League in his lifetime so he's looking to get out without losing too much and trying to move it on to someone he thinks cares. 

 

well he’s being blooming slow about it, ie something like a decade

If I had to work for Mannimg I would be putting every effort into getting out.

He is so ……..boring, with zero personality, before we even get to his lack of football nous and man management.

Just imagine for a moment how boring and increasingly pointless his ‘work on the grass’ must be to seasoned pros.

At least James and,King are being given a master class in how NOT to manage