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7 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Ashton Gate Ltd own the Stadium

Ashton Gate Ltd and Bristol City Ltd are owned by Bristol City Holdings Ltd, a non-trading entity.  Pula / Lansdown owns it all.

Yep. Got that. Do not need it clarified, as per previous posts.

12 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

Hmmm, don't see that. If there's another angle fair enough, but looks like he came around the side and got the ball. 

1 minute ago, elhombrecito said:

Sorry, don't see anything wrong with that at all.

He’s swiped the lads legs away before he touches the ball. Think VAR would give that a pen. 

Hmmm. Man before ball? 
 

12 minutes ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

The club don’t as good as own the company do they,

The rugby pay rent to the same company as the football club, the football club have no more control over the ground than the rugby do. 

Bristol City Holdings essentially own the stadium. 

16 hours ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

The football club 100% pay rent for using the stadium, they are a tenant who have no control over the running of the ground. 

Read below. The club, effectively, pay rent to its own parent company. No big deal. The club as good as own the stadium. Not difficult. We are certainly not “a tenant”. 

7 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Tax may play a part, but the main tax saving is higher up at Guernsey level. 

One of the main reasons to have the stadium owned by a company separate from the Club is so that should the Club go bust the stadium is protected as it's not an asset of the insolvent company and so cannot be sold to satisfy creditors. That's actually quite prudent, and is the reason why clubs stated hiving their stadia off 20 or so years ago.

Some exploited this (Sheff Wed, Derby etc) and 'sold' the stadium for overinflated prices. But, the rationale is sound.

BCFC do pay a ground charge to AG Ltd, but as both companies are owned by BCFC Holdings, and it's Holdings that report accounts for FFP purposes, that payment nets out to neutral and so has no effect on us financially.

It's really, honestly, not really anything to worry about.

1 hour ago, RedM said:

Your idea about quality is different to mine. I think this is poor

Why is that poor quality? That is, in fact, how players shirts are up and down the country. 

13 minutes ago, phantom said:

So why do Bristol City pay to rent ground etc etc

We're discussing Bristol Sport dictates the pricing in the ground, all of which is out of our control 

 

Because away supporters don't sit in either stand 

Bristol City Football Club Ltd. may pay Ashton Gate Limited a fee. Ashton Gate Limited is, however, owned by Bristol City Holdings, as is Bristol City Football Club Ltd. 
 

Bristol Sport provide a service, running day to day operations at Ashton Gate. 
 

Bristol City Football Club Ltd, or Bristol City Holdings do not pay rent to Bristol Sport. They may pay Bristol Sport a fee to provide the service. However, match day turnover goes into the clubs pocket. 

Just now, phantom said:

Don’t be bitter just because I was clearly correct here yet again 

 

Need I go through and bring up quotes where you evidently don’t have a ******* clue. 

36 minutes ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

Henry, they are though, the football club pay rent for each game they play at Ashton gate.

It’s all ran by Bristol sport, yes the club would have some input but they certainly don’t have any control over it (in theory)

I know it’s different as we view it as our home, but it is for the women, the rugby, women’s rugby if they play there? 

No they don’t. Bristol City Holdings own the stadium. There might be internal transactions, but no involvement of Bristol Sport. 

9 hours ago, Ian M said:

It would be interesting to see just how many tickets are left in the South Stand for non-season-card holders the moment Sheffield Wednesday tickets are released. Currently the furthest away fixtures (Ipswich and Coventry) have less than 50 available in the SS. It might be a negligible amount of money lost compared to the goodwill they would generate for our away supporters.

See. I don’t understand this point. It’s more than fair to charge more for South Stand seats than Atyeo. The difference is facilities is huge. If this is the case then why are we allowed to charge more for the Lansdown than they Dolman. 

9 hours ago, phantom said:

I was actually surprised how much to do with the stadium etc is now out of Bristol Citys control and ran by Bristol Sport 

We're just tenants hiring the stadium like anyone else holding an event there

We have requested to bring people from Bristol Sport not only to future meetings but they've also got action points from this meeting to respond to 

No. We’re not. Bristol City holdings own the stadium. Bristol Sport provide a service to the stadium. Been covered hundreds of times. Zzzz

9 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

Ah I see. @phantom is this what you meant? A laugh react gets me nowhere! 

It is what he does. Pretends to know things he clearly does not know. Ignore him, knows no more than you or I. 

12 minutes ago, glastored said:

I was more than halfway through looking at the gallery pictures before I realised the pattern was the City circle! Quite like it’s subtlety! The colour is tasteful, but I don’t like Nahki’s dangly bits!

Is it? Certainly wouldn’t call it subtle. 

How to make a black kit a bit… garish?

On its way then. 5pm. Appears to be purple and black. 

Ben Acey fallen completely out of favour?

6 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

Yes, as can be seen in the image. It would have made the dolman a very small stand. likely would have lost upwards of 10 rows.  

3 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

Hummel aren't the dictionary definition of perfection though are they . 
The problems their distribution companies have had are well documented on here, it's not like we dumped hem to save money.
Plus I got a Hummel tee shirt, the crest black on black. I liked it because it was subtle. It's now after washing , pretty much just a black shirt, you can barely see the Crest. 
I was in the shop recently, the washed out kit looks decent quality. I don't particularly like it, but there are loads of our shirts over the years I haven't liked. The "splat" Robin, would have been great for a kids line of clothing, but again there are loads of leisure/training wear over the years I've hated.

Just to show it's easy to criticise, here are some quote of Castore Vs Hummel

And I thought Hummel's offering last year was alright but seeing clip of a game from last season earlier it's like night and day and really shows up Hummel to be honest

Castore and it's not even close.
The Hummel stuff was crap

Castore pisses all over Hummel.
Glad we are rid of the chevron shit.

I liked a lot of the Hummel stuff, but we aren't the only Club to dump them, and we got away fairly lightly it seems. It does feel like this is an easy stick to beat the Club with.
There would have been limited options with Companies to go with ( and I'm repeating myself here ), none of the "bigger" "better" Clubs would have been in a position to get a kit out as quickly as we wanted. The designs aren't down to ONeils , the Robin isn't down to ONeils and the Pricing isn't down to ONeils. That would down to Jon and his crayons and a mistaken idea that you can charge a similar price for a Tee shirt as you can for a playing shirt that will always be a part of our history (however ugly). 
The last one I mention as I like the black "City" tee, but £40 ?? My Mrs did Tough Mudder recently and they gave better away to finishers !

As for the Bears "Bear" shirt, Hummel would 100% have done that if the Club took that design to them.

No, they would not have. 

3 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

I'll bet if that had been made by Hummel people would love it and decide it was an instant classic.

Hummel wouldn’t make it. That’s the difference. 

3 hours ago, Monkeh said:

They may of binned him off too

He’s freelance. Has been since he left the Post. So whatever you’ve said is wrong. 

41 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

After watching SLs presentation for his vision of Guernsey tourism its patently obvious what his number one priority is - his golf complex. Seems this is why the football club are not getting any funding now or in the future, its all going to La Grand Mare Guernsey.

What with the sporting quarter and the 500 houses to be built and his pet project in Guernsey, it seems he's spread himself a bit thin and the sporting clubs like City, rugby, basketball etc will have to tighten their belts.

 

So you don’t understand finances at all? 

15 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Looks 40-50% bigger to me. Also a conventional shape (square) unlike the current arrangement,  so can make better use of the floorspace. 

May also maintain the current shop as a shop for the rugby? Though with that much space they’d actually need to order some stock. 

31 minutes ago, BS30 City said:

Museum incorporated too!  Shop looks roughly 250/300sq m. No idea the size of what we have now! 

Old circled in blue. New in red. 

On 01/09/2023 at 10:32, Baldyman said:

Do we actually condition our players at all ? Appreciate he’s at Newport but only been there a week ! Our record on muscle injuries is ridiculous now . 

Seb signed for Newport on 20th of July. That’s almost six weeks ago. 

Raises the mood, absolutely.