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Part of me thinks it’s bad for lower league and grass roots football, but as someone rightly pointed out on Twitter - it’s easy enough to watch 3pm KOs if you wanted to, so will it have much impact?

You can’t just pull someone back once they’ve got past you and 1 on 1 with the keeper ?

Definitely a pen and definitely a red, by the letter of the law. I assume it’s Robbie Savage commentating? Says he gets his shot away - yea completely off-balance because he’s been pulled back twice, frustrating as hell when a ref gives “advantage” for an off-balance shot. No attempt to play the ball so if it’s a foul it’s a red by the rule book.

I stepped back after posting as I didn't want to get into a heated debate - again, apologies if my post was strong but (as you may have too) seen first-hand what can happen to people who are gay (or trans as you know) I agree that the sooner it's not a "thing" the better, but I think we all know it is. Statistically, there is likely to be footballers in this country who are gay and feel they have to hide it for fear of backlash. It wasn't the opinion that made it immature (in my opinion), it was the language used. This misses the point, have you ever had to hide your sexuality? Avoid taking your partner to a social gathering? Been attacked simply for who you are attracted to? If not, then you don't understand. No one comes out because they think it's "interesting", they're normalising it. @nebristolredhas made the point really well so I don't need to repeat it further.

Not true, the Italians scored first. First England player though

Admitted It in the ticket thread, don’t feed the troll

Speaks a person who has no idea what they’re talking about. ivr mentioned before, A lad in our team came out to us, I had hours of in depth chats with him and it’s ******* horrifying what he went through and how he was treated by the few people in his life that he had opened up to. It’s not so much about announcing it, it’s about not having to hide it anymore. Your immature comments sum it up really, sexuality is much more than sex. Perhaps when people like yourself grow up and don’t enable childish comments and attitudes thrn more people will feel comfortable being who they are and it won’t be a big deal any more. I had to report someone just last week in a game because he decided to call me a faggot, I’ll stand up against that language all day long. Apologies if that’s a bit strong but it’s something I care greatly about.

Nice clickbait

To be fair, Wembley is hell to get out of with that sort of crowd. Could easily take you an hour to get to the tube, many would miss last trains home. Trains in this direction have been shit all week too, not necessarily strikes but cancellations and delays

How is this true, it wasn’t a “sell out”? Less tickets available I’m guessing for some reason?

Well it’s not their heaviest defeat so far, so you’re probably right ?

You have to be on a wind up?

The Scotland game was an anomaly, they were bang up for it and it was a nervy game. How many times in football have we seen the bigger team get held by the plucky underdog? I disagree about being boring, Germany, Ukraine and Denmark were all very exciting games to watch. England were the better team first half last night, Germany had 20 minutes at the start of the second half and that was it really. It wasn’t great, but we didn’t only “start to play” at 2-0.

Ive always backed Maguire for England, eg when he recovered his place half way through the Euros. However I agree with this. If he’s not getting in at club level how can he play at national level? He won’t be “match” fit and up to the pace come the WC. It’s clear his confidence is shot and he needs to be taken out of the firing line. I’d like to have seen Tomori, White, Coady or even Webster get a chance. Exactly this, we are far too slow in posession and often too “safe”. I thought against Italy that Maguire was quite good at passing forwards and breaking the lines. He didn’t do that tonight and so often we took 4/5 touches for a pass when it could have been 1 or 2 max. When we did do one touch we carved them open. Great game to be fair, glad I went in the end. Can’t believe how many people left at 2-0 and even despite the last minute equaliser they missed an entertaining half hour of football. The result masks another slightly worrying performance (albeit better than Friday). I’m not hopeful going into this tournament, but we showed some fight and some positives tonight that mean we’re not completely down and out. The group still worries me. Iran won’t be a walkover and Wales will be bang up for it. At least we can get back to worrying about City for a couple of months now.

That aged well ?

I wouldn’t say so, it’s the last game before a World Cup. I’d say the Switzerland / Ivory Coast friendlies at the end of last season were more pointless.

No way there was 90k there tonight (being really pedantic the record is 89 something) What do you expect though? It’s always sterile for “friendlies”, it’s full of tourists. Picked up a bit after we scored but it’s never gonna reach the Euros levels when anyone can pick up a ticket on general sale

What makes you say that? he’s in the match day squad. Got tickets to tonight and really struggled to find motivation but I’ve found someone else who’s going and dragged myself out. I’m as pro-England, glass half full as it gets and I’m dreading this WC at the moment. Really hope we do something tonight to show some hope or potential for November. I can’t believe how much we seem to have regressed since the Euros, and this was the one the FA targeted doing well in…

Agree, very much enjoying watching us at the moment and been lucky to get to 3 games so far

Me too, obviously it’s what I want - just answering the question realistically

Shit, am I Scottish too?

I voted relegation, doesn’t mean I want us to or think it will happen soon, but on law of averages through our history I’d say it’s more likely we go down at some point rather than up.

Exactly, Maguire and Walker are nailed on starters, like it or not and the alternatives without those said players don’t seem to be favoured by Southgate

Walker’s started every game for City until he got an injury.

Really? Maguire, Walker, Rice, Sterling, Kane, Foden will probably all start. Bellingham and James quite likely too Pope, probably not. Dier, didn’t do anything wrong but would like to hope we’ve got better quality. Saka not in that position.