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There have been some incredible number 23s....

First Michael Jordan. Then David Beckham.

Now, Stu takes the 23 shirt in the OTIB running club. Wear it with pride sir 

Sorry if mentioned elsewhere but Lansdown quoted in the Post as saying he's confident that resumption has the numbers. 

22 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

EFL update:

The EFL can confirm that 1014 players and Club staff from all 24 Championship Clubs have been tested for COVID-19 over the course of the last 72 hours, with two individuals testing positive from one Club.

Those players or Club staff who have tested positive will now self-isolate in line with the guidelines provided by the EFL and only those who have tested negative will be permitted to enter training ground facilities.

The EFL will continue to make regular and relevant announcements as appropriate in respect of the testing programme to support competition integrity and transparency.

No specific details as to Clubs or individuals will be provided by the League.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/may/efl-statement-covid-19-test-results/

That's a pleasant surprise, I expected a dozen positive tests at least

17 minutes ago, Harry said:

So, bought some new trainers this week. First run yesterday, blisters!! Bugger. 
Managed another run this morning in my old trainers, with cotton wool and plasters over the blisters. That worked well. 
 

I’ve recently been doing regular 10k’s and stepped this up to an hour (12.5k) this morning. 
 

I have a question though. An hour was just about all I could manage without taking on board a drink. I might’ve managed another 1-2k possibly. 
What do people do for drinks on longer runs? 
The only times I’ve ever done more than 13-14k have been on official events, so drinks are en route. I was thinking of sticking a bottle outside my house, doing 12k to finish at my house, take a drink and then try another few kms, but then there’s the mental aspect of “well, I’m home now and I gotta run off again!”  
Do people take bottles with them, if so what’s the best method - one of those carrying ones with the handle, or a small bag/carrier? Any recommendations. I don’t really want to carry a bottle around but if I start doing longer distances I’ll need a solution. 

I'm the worst person to give advice because I can comfortably run 10-15 miles without a drink. It's probably not healthy though. Sometimes I take a few gummy sweets out just for the sugar hit and to get the saliva glands working.

42 minutes ago, phantom said:

City to return to training on Monday

Everyone being tested today to ensure anyone with a positive result stays away

Sweepstake on who has the virus? I'm going Pato...

1 hour ago, BCFC Grim said:

Imagine getting promoted ( let's not forget we've not been great this season) and not being there to see it. If it finishes it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'd struggle to get excited seing us get promoted in an empty stadium. Football"s all about experiences for me.

Don't worry, you'll be there to see us lift the Premier League title next year.

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Was only thinking about that the other night.

To be fair, that was a good result and an improved performance from us so hardly a balls up from us.

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

It is understood / rumoured () that both Leeds and West Brom want to continue.

I can't see the logic but could well be true and there could be other surprises too.

Also if the season is curtailed, Lee Johnson would have continued his streak of season on season improvement in terms of league position...

If the season is curtailed, City will rue the goal conceded in the 84th minute against Fulham as being the moment that we missed out on the play offs...

So do we think 51% is likely at this stage?

Well, the top 2 would be happy to curtail under that arrangement. Brentford and Forest too perhaps as they'd struggle to catch top 2. Preston would achieve their aim of playoffs. 

So in the top 6, only Fulham could vote for resumption, teams 7th to 13th would surely vote for resumption? As would bottom 3. 

So I make it 11 vote to resume. 13 vote to curtail.

35 minutes ago, phantom said:

From the meeting this afternoon only 4 clubs in the Championship don't want the season to commence. 

One of those is Hull.

The other 3 are currently unknown 

Given that the top 13 teams still have a chance of promotion, and the bottom 3 will want to protect their status, I suppose the only surprise is that of the teams in 17th to 21st, theres a team that voted to resume. 

2 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

The fact they are very well paid means they can afford to set up arrangements to live comfortably away from their family without suffering financial hardship. Ordinary employees couldn't afford to do that. For a limited time to finish this season it doesn't seem unreasonable. I'm sure clubs will end up paying for it anyway. 

Most of them won't even choose to do so. If they're regularly tested I doubt the majority will see this as much of a risk to their family. These are people like us that go to supermarkets and probably don't observe the full 2 metre rule (more like 2 feet for most of us!).

Most of these players are incredibly low risk, and most of their household will be too.

Let's not confuse Deeney's situation with the vast majority of footballers!

3 hours ago, daored said:

My main point is if they’re able to source these tests and labs - I believe it would be beneficial if these were offered to key workers then the general public. 

That's the government's responsibility, not the EFL and Prem. Anything the EFL and Prem caj do, the govt can do easier.

44 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Indeed.

As with everything, it boils down to which side you stand on:

Money first, whatever the human cost or Humanity first, whatever the monetary cost.

Is it worth people dying, so that football clubs businesses survive.

What do the players put first? If they had to take a pay cut to extend the postponement of the season, would they do so? If the postponement of the season is extended, will the millionaire players help the club stay financially fit and will they helps the furloughed staff?

Injury question....

You're recovering from a tendon injury - knee pain, ankle sprain, abductor etc - when do you resume training? 

I presume few of us follow the guidelines, so do you wait for zero pain?

Do you wait certain amount of time?

Do you wait until there's nothing more than a dull ache? 

I ask because I'm awful at resting injuries and I've been "resting" my knee for nearly 2 weeks.

I've done physio exercises probably twice in that time, but terrible at that too!

2 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

It's good to see more people joining, I only created the group on a whim to see who might be interested.

Likewise this thread. Hopefully this will be a force for good. Or evil. Either way is fine.

Welcome James to the group - wear the number 22 with pride sir!

4 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

You still have to do the time, no need to make it sound any easier than it was.

Thanks mate! You know how it is, always ifs buts and maybes with marathons!

2 minutes ago, terpin said:

Yeah, it is a mint area for cycling. Always try and get a ride in when I'm back. Just had a look at the Black Rat profile. Bit chewy that one!

 

Good stuff. I PB'd that day as well with 3:27 so we would have been pretty close to each other!

In regards to the future, I tend to take it year by year. Would love to do Pyongyang Marathon where you get chaparoned in and out of the country. Would be a hell of an experience but not sure I'd get the OK from the Mrs for that one...

 

So it was you always getting in my way!

Have you joined us on Strava?

2 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said:

That's a handy time, well done.

It was flat as a pancake and perfect running conditions to be fair. Should have got sub 3:30 but cracked at 23 miles. 3:29.59 is my marathon goal. I don't think my body wants to push much more than that!

29 minutes ago, terpin said:

Cheers. I did the first three without any link between them, but then realised I was averaging one a year and it so happened that they had been in different countries. That was when the idea came about.

So far the 12 are:

2008 - Stockholm
2009 - London
2010 - New York
2011 - Berlin
2012 - Rome
2013 - Dublin
2014 - Oslo
2015 - Brussels
2016 - Valencia
2017 - Paris
2018 - Amsterdam
2019 - Vienna

Nice one! I ran Amsterdam in 2018 too. 3:33 PB. Nice and flat but I didn't enjoy the city part of the course.

What have you got on your list for the future?

30 minutes ago, terpin said:

Remember seeing that you'd cycled past my mums place in the Forest a while back @Rob k!

Released that I never got around to introuding myself on the thread here. As mentioned by @Harry, I live out in Norway now and have done so for the past 12 years.  

In regards to running, my first race was Cheltenham 10k back in 2001. Have done numerous 10ks, half marathons and marathons since, with a few triathlons thrown in as well.

My ongoing "project" is to run 26 marathons, over 26 years, in 26 different countries. Started in 2008, so I'm up to 12 now. This year I'm signed up to Poznan in October, but not holiding my breath on that one. Might have to double up next year.

Currently building back up after slipping a disc in my back, but fingers crossed things seem to be going in the right direction. 

That's amazing - what a cool concept. Go on list the 12...

1 hour ago, Dr Balls said:

There is a level of hypocrisy from footballers wanting to be paid in full but not go back to playing, as stated quite clearly by Simon Jordan on Newsnight last night. The risk is if they want pay but don’t play, football clubs go bust and they are left far more out of pocket. TV companies are going to pull their contracts and funding if there is no product. Biting the hand that feeds you comes to mind...

The reality is that very few people of active professional playing age are becoming unwell with this virus. Is anyone aware of a  current player anywhere being hospitalised? Are black players at more risk? Maybe but the risk is very small anyway for young adults. The biggest risk is to the other staff (coaches etc) who are older and more likely to become seriously unwell, or to older members of players’ families. Well the answer to that one is to isolate the players from their families for a short period of a few weeks and appropriate levels of testing.

At some point, we are all going to be taking a level of risk with contracting Covid-19. Many of us are already having to work in various jobs, with differing levels of risk and protection, and can’t say “pay us in full but we don’t want to come back to work”.  Footballers will also have to accept that their old life isn’t possible at least for the next few months and they will have to find a different way. If they don’t, then they can’t expect the same exceedingly large rewards etc. 
 

P.S. The longer we go without football, the more irrelevant it will seem to larger swathes of the population. Once you lose the love, it’s very hard to get it back....

Well said. Did Rooney, or Sterling, or Rose say that they'd be willing to sacrifice their pay during any extended postponement? When they say that the health of their family is their top priority, should that be caveated with (so long as I get paid).

4 hours ago, Mr X said:

Has anyone got any good off-road routes (10-20km) in Bristol/South Glos? I’m not one for just going round and round a park really either as I’m always tempted to stop early if I go near where I’ve parked up. 

I really fancy a run around the Lower Woods at Wickwar. Otherwise loads of quiet country roads round Thornbury (all directions).

11 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I do get where Rooney is coming from. 

Yes there is the argument that frontline workers, especially those in the NHS, do not have the environment or possibility to work within the social distancing guidelines and out themselves at risk every day. However, this is because their role is serving a purpose and without them we would be a hell of a lot worse off than what we are. You cannot put into words what these people have done over the last couple of months.

Then there is football. What real purpose do they serve in going back to ‘work’? They are not key workers, their jobs are not invaluable to the health and safety of the nation. There is no difference between allowing them to go back to work and reopening every office in the country and scrapping social distancing. 

I’ve said before on this thread, take the money it will cost to play out the rest of the season and out it towards the NHS or another worthwhile cause.

If the Bundesliga games this weekend is anything to go by and games are going to be played at pre season pace then there really is no point.  

Comparing footballers to key workers is the wrong comparison to make. We're not talking about footballers competing now, we're likely talking about a month or two down the line at which point, football will be one of many non-essential industries to have resumed. Footballers will be the most protected of all of them.

10 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

You seem to be moaning for the sake of it.

Many are working at greater risk, but should footballers be expected to work at risk without consultation, potentially adding to the burden of those who have no choice*?

*I say 'no choice' obviously these people have chosen to work with the sick and ill, they haven't been conscripted, so they are likely aware that they risk coming in to contact with germ ridden people.

Equally, why shouldn't Rooney have an opinion on 'his' industry?

Just on this consultation bit, surely the clubs are consulting their players, and then club representatives are going to the FA/EFL. So mention it to your manager if you have a problem. 

What surprises me about Rooney's comments is that Derby are 6 points behind Preston with 9 games to go. I'd expect him to balance the concerns about safety with his desperation as Derby skipper to eventually (when the time is right) resume. But reading that extract it sounds like he's not convinced about resumption, contrary I presume to what his board would be hoping for.