Mr Popodopolous Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 God I hope we don't sign this nearly man manager. He spends and wastes money like confetti, he should have done a lot better with the likes of wolves and Cardiff, and bottled it almost every season. The actual season he got wolves up he scraped them through the playoffs when with the money spent they should of walked it. If Millen is removed for Jones I will not return to Ashton gate. If they can afford to pay up the managers and possibly his staff contracts then they can find some cash for a defender. If this turns out to be true then bristol city football club can go whistle for my hard earned cash. Depends on expectations though, surely? The question perhaps should be 'Could Jones keep us up?' I think yes- not that Millen should necessarily go after a mere 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Doubt that very much. Dave Jones and our budget don't mix. Pretty sure at Cardiff at first he had a fairly modest budget- obviously it increased sharply as it went on but not the first 2 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 What did he do last season, of note? Not alot, just took us from relegation zone to bottom half. Nothing like the same situation as now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Pretty sure at Cardiff at first he had a fairly modest budget Pretty sure he didn't. Their accounts are available online if you want to check, but their wage bill was astronomical throughout his tenure as I recall, even when they were nearly bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Sam Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sack Millen now And give another manager a chance ADVERTISE the job and see who comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Good argument! We will see soon enough pal. Weren't you the chap who said that Julian Bennett was definitely joining City last season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If we are going down the line of managers who've achieved something on small budgets, the only two I would suggest are Graham Westley and Martin Allen. Im not adding any fuel to the fire, should Keith go at any point, Allen would be my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If we are going down the line of managers who've achieved something on small budgets, the only two I would suggest are Graham Westley and Martin Allen. Im not adding any fuel to the fire, should Keith go at any point, Allen would be my choice. ? Ron, are you pissed? you must be pissed... Martin Allen? Definately pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Always admired Allen, has done a good job wherever he's been - even Cheltenham when you consider the non-league resources he ended up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Martin Allen, Gary Neville, Gary Johnson, Lee Clarke. you lot are conspiring to make my blood pressure rise aren't you? Gary ******* Neville wins though, you must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 My contact is not one of those two but someone very close to these two! Haha ok so we've made an approach for Dave Jones even though Kieth is still in charge and he will be the manager after two more games regardless of the results. All this despite the fact the seasons only two games old? Brilliant! You couldn't make it up, or perhaps you could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I am not even sure if he is looking to get back into football with his academy setup, but if Millen is to be replaced (and I hope he isn't) then hoddle could be a good appointment, no money to pay out, a pretty good record at club management, not bad as England manager and he may be able to attract players. Depends if he is forgiven for his opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I am not even sure if he is looking to get back into football with his academy setup, but if Millen is to be replaced (and I hope he isn't) then hoddle could be a good appointment, no money to pay out, a pretty good record at club management, not bad as England manager and he may be able to attract players. Depends if he is forgiven for his opinions. I'm sure all of BCFC's disabled fans will be delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sure they would be happy and forgiving if he took city to the promised land. After all everyone should get 1 second chance. I am sure your opinions my opinions everyone's opinions will get some demographics back up. Doesn't mean he cannot do a good job. It would seem keeping Millen will upset even more people than the number of disabled supporters we have. You will always upset someone. Name me any manager Mr Tansley and I am sure you will find an area of our support that won't like him. Doesn't mean they can't do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sure they would be happy and forgiving if he took city to the promised land. After all everyone should get 1 second chance. I am sure your opinions my opinions everyone's opinions will get some demographics back up. Doesn't mean he cannot do a good job. It would seem keeping Millen will upset even more people than the number of disabled supporters we have. You will always upset someone. Name me any manager Mr Tansley and I am sure you will find an area of our support that won't like him. Doesn't mean they can't do the job Yeah, but what he said was pretty unforgivable tbh. Anyone who knows people who suffer from disabilities or has them themselves would be very insulted to hear a moron like Glenn (Who does know a lot about football, but not life) say they are being punished for something they did. Being told you deserve the pain and trouble of a disability is pretty effing low. So, no, I don't think many self respecting member of our disabled fan base would or should forgive him. I certainly wouldn't want him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 'un' Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'm sure all of BCFC's disabled fans will be delighted. why would us disabled fans be delighted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 He got those opinions from his faith. If they are right or wrong who knows? I disagree as I don't believe in god. But it could be proved I am the idiot when I die and find out there is a god. So what makes him a moron for beliving it? He probably is wrong, but there is a chance he is correct, no matter hoe much you and I disagree with what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 He got those opinions from his faith. If they are right or wrong who knows? I disagree as I don't believe in god. But it could be proved I am the idiot when I die and find out there is a god. So what makes him a moron for beliving it? He probably is wrong, but there is a chance he is correct, no matter hoe much you and I disagree with what he says. and by that denomination there is a chance that Hitler was right about the Jews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Was that a religious belief? I thought that was a racial belief? So not really the same thing. Unless I am wrong in that understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 TRL is onto something. I know various Christian folk who believe we should all die for our sins, especially me as I am a non-believer. If any of them had some footballing pedigree and were put in the England job no one would bat an eyelid. That's not to excuse Hoddles comments one jot, just you can't have one rule for one apparently ridiculous view and another for something equally as... Unreasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 TRL is onto something. I know various Christian folk who believe we should all die for our sins, especially me as I am a non-believer. If any of them had some footballing pedigree and were put in the England job no one would bat an eyelid. That's not to excuse Hoddles comments one jot, just you can't have one rule for one apparently ridiculous view and another for something equally as... Unreasonable? but if they started coming out and preaching their bile they would receive the same treatment as Hoddle. If you are in a position of importance like a professional football manager you do not spout crap (religious or otherwise) and expect to remain in that position or expect to keep your reputation in tact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 but if they started coming out and preaching their bile they would receive the same treatment as Hoddle. If you are in a position of importance like a professional football manager you do not spout crap (religious or otherwise) and expect to remain in that position or expect to keep your reputation in tact. Perhaps so, perhaps not, some equally fascist views are treated very differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If we are going down the line of managers who've achieved something on small budgets, the only two I would suggest are Graham Westley and Martin Allen. Im not adding any fuel to the fire, should Keith go at any point, Allen would be my choice. Paul Tisdale and Sean O' Driscoll?! Not only have they done very well on small budgets but they have done it playing very attractive football. They have both proved to have a great eye for talent at little cost and have done tremendously. (Again, I'm not saying get any of them i wouldn't sack Millen but on the subject of managers who have achieved a lot on a small budget these two certainly stand out.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Again, crap in your opinion, there would be hundreds of thousands that would agree with him. So I guess you pick and choose who you alienate. I think hoddle can be classed as niave in responding in that way to a question. But what difference someone who believes this and speaks publically and those who are quiet morally? Because this would seem to be your argument. And I still can't see the relevance of your Hitler argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Paul Tisdale and Sean O' Driscoll?! Not only have they done very well on small budgets but they have done it playing very attractive football. They have both proved to have a great eye for talent at little cost and have done tremendously. (Again, I'm not saying get any of them i wouldn't sack Millen but on the subject of managers who have achieved a lot on a small budget these two certainly stand out.) Shaun O'Driscoll's achievements have been exaggerated a lot, Tisdale is a top shout though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sod had a good season, and plays pretty football. But I never thought him particularly as a standout manager. Tisdale, now he does seem a good manager to me. Very successful and from what I hear has some very forward thinking ideas. Unfortunately not enough of a named manager for much of the city faithful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Again, crap in your opinion, there would be hundreds of thousands that would agree with him. So I guess you pick and choose who you alienate. I think hoddle can be classed as niave in responding in that way to a question. But what difference someone who believes this and speaks publically and those who are quiet morally? Because this would seem to be your argument. And I still can't see the relevance of your Hitler argument Because the only people who can be hurt or insulted by thoughts are mind readers. If you have a platform to speak to a huge audience you have a responsibility to think before you speak. that's the difference. He hurt and insulted many hundreds of thousands of people in this country who suffer a disability that was no fault of their own by proclaiming from a position of potential influence that they deserved it. Why is believing that Disabled people deserve their plight any different to thinking that the Jews were the reason for the financial mire in Germany and to blame for anything else Hitler attributed to them? Race, Religion? Both about as relevant an excuse for being a hateful ****** as the other IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Shaun O'Driscoll's achievements have been exaggerated a lot, Tisdale is a top shout though. Exaggerated? I disagree. If you look at what he's done there, the squad he's built considering the money he's spent, all whilst playing a great passing game, he has to be applauded. Sure they were near the bottom last year and it's going to be tough but they cannot spend huge amounts so buy wisely. Acquire good lower league talent and players other clubs have wasted in wrong positions. He's done an exemplary job in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I am not even sure if he is looking to get back into football with his academy setup, but if Millen is to be replaced (and I hope he isn't) then hoddle could be a good appointment, no money to pay out, a pretty good record at club management, not bad as England manager and he may be able to attract players. Depends if he is forgiven for his opinions. Good record? Remind me of his acheivememts as a manager. Seem enough with England to know he is also clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Good record? Remind me of his acheivememts as a manager. Seem enough with England to know he is also clueless he was a good manager but has been out of management far to long now to even get a look in, I don't like him as a person for what he said about the disabled but then again people have said worst in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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