Super Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Get your money on Tamworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 So with the staff we have in place are we again looking to appoint a head coach opposed to a manager, as that would surely rule in or out a few candidates? Or is it much the same thing anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Disaster and dismay looms then. What a pathetically uninspiring and hypocritical choice. Attractive football? do me a favour City board. They deserve all the slating coming their way if this comes to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Earl Grey or Lapsang Souchong? Two unknowns who have done nothing in the game.Watch our board try to interview them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm praying he's got this very wrong. 8 people out of 166 want the guy. 8. 4%. EIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EDoubleD Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cotterill would be a poor choice in my opinion. As a manager he's accomplished very little. He managed to have 3 consecutive lower mid table championship finishes with Burnley who after they got rid of him got promoted to the Premieship. After that he went to Notts County who were top of the table by miles when he joined in January, he then kept them going and got them promoted to L1. His only accomplishment of date, with a side he didn't build. He then didn't want to stay and build with Notts County, instead he jumped ship to Porstmouth for the following season where he never really accomplished a lot before he went to Nottingham Forest who flirted with relegation the whole time he was there until he kept them up towards the end of the season. He was then sacked following there takeover. He's not known for playing good football or using young players. Now is this really the man people want as the next Bristol City manager? Someone with no real League 1 experience, no real loyalty and no track record of building and blooding a side of young players. A truly baffling decision if we appoint him. Chelt he got promoted twice Notts county were on the brink of bankruptcy when the owners bailed Pompey were skint Forest were in a relegation fight when he took over from mcclaren and kept them up Sooooo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Really not happy about this, hope he proves me wrong though, as I've been happy with the past 2 managerial appointments and they've been massive failures. Same here, Cotts would not be my first choice but then I don't know who would, I do think he'll bring passion, organisation and committment to the role add a bit of wheeling and dealing in the transfer market and he's got a good chance of keeping us up, I reckon he's got a good knowledge of our players and what needs to be done and can hit the ground running. In a years time I may well be moaning about long balls and dire football who knows, but I see the logic in the appointment for the here and now if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Who's gonna get the banner ready for the first home match: BOARD OUT, COTTERILL OUT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm praying he's got this very wrong. 8 people out of 166 want the guy. 8. 4%. EIGHT. If you care to scroll down and see the MANAGER POLL he's around 1.7% actually... numbskull board. If we get him in I hope we lose 20-0 to Tamworth and Rotherham by a similar score line and the board sack him and themselves and leave the room paving the way for Steve to abandon his stupid exile idea and come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If you care to scroll down and see the MANAGER POLL he's around 1.7% actually... numbskull board. If we get him in I hope we lose 20-0 to Tamworth and Rotherham by a similar score line and the board sack him and themselves and leave the room paving the way for Steve to abandon his stupid exile idea and come home. So long as he's coming home to find a suitable buyer. Appointing Cotterill is a essentially a massive 'FU' from the board to the fans. Which, agonisingly is a hallmark of the Lansdown families tyranny at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Some quite amazing reactions on here in the apparent likelihood the rumours are correct. Give the new guy a chance for FS, whoever he is! It's not as though we have been treated to a feast of entertaining footie and success under SOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Some quite amazing reactions on here in the apparent likelihood the rumours are correct. Give the new guy a chance for FS, whoever he is! It's not as though we have been treated to a feast of entertaining footie and success under SOD. Quite true sir... oh well so hoof ball it is then. Just be nice to be told a truth from this board not utter clap trap... happily eat my words if the media have been instructed to put out a non-story just so the board can see the vitriole for real... i prey that is the case. If he becomes manager of course i will get behind him like i would Holloway or any other choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If true, welcome to the club Steve. Best of luck. Your best chance would have been by getting the fans behind you from the outset, but too many have already decided you're not good enough for the Bristol City languishing in the relegation zone of the Third Division. Many of those still fixated with SOD will no doubt we hanging around outside his house waving placards or something similarly tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It's as good as done now. Not impressed at all by this but he needs our backing and we all have to get behind him from the word go. As I've said, not happy, but we are in a mess and he needs all our help to hit the ground running. I desperately hope Cotterill can prove me wrong and show he is the right man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Quite true sir... oh well so hoof ball it is then. Just be nice to be told a truth from this board not utter clap trap... happily eat my words if the media have been instructed to put out a non-story just so the board can see the vitriole for real... i prey that is the case. If he becomes manager of course i will get behind him like i would Holloway or any other choice. Not sure how many games you've seen with SOD in charge, but there has been more than a hint of "hoof ball". Ok the ball may have been knocked about a bit at the back, but more often than not the final ball was a long punt in a vain attempt to find Baldock. If the new man can get us moving it more quickly an playing and pressing further up the pitch we may pick up a few more points. We are not going to see successful scintillating footie at this level. Players capable of that won't be in Lge 1 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 I won't be going down Ashton gate for a long time, supporting this circus is a joke and by doing this you allow these fools to continuously get away with making these ludicrous decisions!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 What i don't get is that SOD was brought into help out a failing Cotterill side and now it appears that we've done the reverse. Still our board of distructors know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben4BCFC Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Typical OTIB so many firmly damning the appointment before it's official, and then all this 'in out' referendum whoever get's appointed after Christmas if not sooner. In the day, we had a new manager appointed and just got on with it, the managers were at least allowed to manage for a decent period without everyone and his dog having an opinion and his credentials and right to be in the job. After another sacking in the Prem and another three in League 1 all this has become is a type of musical chairs and of course the real problem in this any ideas these Managers have will never be realised due to a must have to-day mentality. I give you Fergie and Moysie as examples of what can be achieved, with patience, I completely disagree. Although a lot of OTIB members are quite quick to condemn, I think the majority have been happy with appointments since Tinnion (some against Millen aside). I just think this is a very poor decision, especially after being adamant last season that they wanted to keep the fan and club close. Never ever felt more distant from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If reports of his style of football are true then Harewood and Taylor must be over the moon to be our new strike force... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If you care to scroll down and see the MANAGER POLL he's around 1.7% actually... numbskull board. If we get him in I hope we lose 20-0 to Tamworth and Rotherham by a similar score line and the board sack him and themselves and leave the room paving the way for Steve to abandon his stupid exile idea and come home. Do you? Do you really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 SCHOOL'S OUT, judging by some of the stuff on here, past few days. Including my own contributions. I think a few people are getting too excited about the arrival of the big man (not Cotterill!) Awaiting the sound of reindeer hooves on the roof can do that to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Do you? Do you really?? Only if it gets him fired is my point squire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Keith Dawe finally gets his way. Nevertheless, he'll (Cotterill) have my support if he is appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If reports of his style of football are true then Harewood and Taylor must be over the moon to be our new strike force... Relax, in January we will bring Carsten Janker and Jan Koller in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Only if it gets him fired is my point squire. You're being very odd today. If Cotterill is appointed then as a City fan you'd want him to succeed, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If he is our new manager, then I welcome him and wish him well He's got a hell of a job on his hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If true, welcome to the club Steve. Best of luck. Your best chance would have been by getting the fans behind you from the outset, but too many have already decided you're not good enough for the Bristol City languishing in the relegation zone of the Third Division. Many of those still fixated with SOD will no doubt we hanging around outside his house waving placards or something similarly tragic. Agree with this, it's not Cotterills fault he is being appointed or that S'OD was sacked. He certainly wouldn't be my choice but he'll get my full support if he is announced as our new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I hope that in 2 years time someone is bringing this post back to life and asking me for an apology and to say I was wrong, but WTF are the board playing at? Not a ******* clue, I truly believe this is one of the worst appointments ever, and there's been a few to compare it to lately The bloke has done sod all (no pun intended) anywhere but Cheltenham, at a lower level, a long time ago I really need to know what the board think he will bring to my football club As others have said though, he will get my full support, as every manager has in my time. Except Osman. Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Porter Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Keith Dawe finally gets his way. Nevertheless, he'll (Cotterill) have my support if he is appointed. Yep im not over the moon with this news, but as above, its a clean slate and he will get my full support until such times as he deservers to lose it. And IMO every CITY fan should feel/do the same Its only going to hurt us further to get on a new managers back from the get go, even if you think its a bad appoitment Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Time to stop believing in all that stuff, glyn. Sorry? Stuff? what you talkin' about Willis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 So, ask them this yourself. Or tweet Stockhausen, ask him to ask them. It's a valid question. So ask it where it needs to be asked. That's all I ask (mind you, it's a big ask)... I'm slipping my note into the pigeon's ring now ( God that sounds filthy no wonder British Telecom invented telephones) I believe that's a tweet is n't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 TC and G. Riley reappearing and making our dreams come true...(still believe in this happening. Although it might have to be Mark Cooper and ...) Rachel Riley? She'd make my dreams come true. (Puffs out cheeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If he is names managed, then I'll wish him the best of luck and get behind him. He may not be my first choice, but lets wait and see what results and tactics he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 For all those who detested SoD's interviews you are in for a treat with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Lets be realistic ...how on earth can he be any worse than what we have had for the last eleven months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Lets be realistic ...how on earth can he be any worse than what we have had for the last eleven months You're new to this city supporting lark are n't you ? ;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Lets be realistic ...how on earth can he be any worse than what we have had for the last eleven months Let's see. Relegation, bankruptcy, rebranding, hoofball... You are new to this lark, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Time to stop believing in all that stuff, glyn. Yes. Grown ups know that the presents are delivered by elves clinging to the *****les of a giant hedgehog called Spiny Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night84 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Agghhh... complete disillusionment with this but having said that I'm a firm believer that every manager needs to find the right club and right level to be successful. Cotterill was successful in the Conference & 4th Tier not so successful in the Championship, maybe we're the right level for him. It just stinks of the managerial merry-go-round though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Having a read through his career it seems like he did really well at Cheltenham. Did well at Burnley considering lack of funds and kept selling their best players. Did well at Notts County (77 percent win ratio). Did rubbish at Portsmouth although difficult circumstances to be fair. Did rubbish at Forrest. To be honest I'm not overly keen on him but will definitely give him a chance as any new manager deserves. If he keeps us up I will be more than happy with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Only if it gets him fired is my point squire. Reckon that make's you a bit of a plum then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Can't say I'm exactly excited by the news, infanct probably the least excited I have been about an appointment since I started watching city (which was under Wilson) but if he is to be city manager then I'll support him non the less and hope he does well. Anyone who wishes him to do badly just because he is appointed instead of someone else should have a word with themselves really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 What i don't get is that SOD was brought into help out a failing Cotterill side and now it appears that we've done the reverse.Still our board of distructors know best. And Redknapp brought in Cotterill to help him a year after being favourite for the England job.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Many of those still fixated with SOD will no doubt we hanging around outside his house waving placards or something similarly tragic. Reading otib over the past few days, I don't see that there's much of a co-relation between those who wanted SOD to stay and those who don't fancy Cotterill. Equally, several most vocal in wanting SOD out are no keener on Cotterill. Personally, I think sacking SOD was a massive mistake, I'm underwhelmed by the prospect of Cotterill, but like you I will welcome him to the club and hope he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Get your money on Tamworth. He usually starts well, it's the rest of it I'm not sure about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Having a read through his career it seems like he did really well at Cheltenham. Did well at Burnley considering lack of funds and kept selling their best players. Did well at Notts County (77 percent win ratio). Did rubbish at Portsmouth although difficult circumstances to be fair. Did rubbish at Forrest. To be honest I'm not overly keen on him but will definitely give him a chance as any new manager deserves. If he keeps us up I will be more than happy with him. Exactly - and I think even Portsmouth fans were reasonably happy with him in the circumstances. Cotterill is an unexciting, unspectacular and unambitious appointment but he's experienced and his record isn't terrible. He doesn't excite me, he wouldn't be my first choice and I can't imagine the football will be much like watching Brazil but I'll back him and reckon he can keep us up this season. In the circumstances, I think we'd have to take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I won't be jumping around with a smile on my face.. There again I won't be booing... I support the club, if the manager aids us then he will win my support over time... If he doesn't then it will be adios... So feel pretty flat about his appointment (if true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 2, 2013 Admin Share Posted December 2, 2013 Can't say I'm exactly excited by the news, infanct probably the least excited I have been about an appointment since I started watching city (which was under Wilson) but if he is to be city manager then I'll support him non the less and hope he does well. Anyone who wishes him to do badly just because he is appointed instead of someone else should have a word with themselves really. Agree with this, certainly not the name that is going to give us fans a massive lift with his appointment. Only time will tell how good an appointment it is. I guess at least our Chairman has actually visibily appeared to do something for a change, but maybe with all the Forest connections on board with us already this was the easiest solution that would cause the least disruption?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 ******* crap. Sack the board and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Yes, I wondered why so many were getting their knickers in a twist so I looked-up his record, read some stuff, looked at some of his interviews and I can't see the problem, looks like he's done well, seems a decent bloke and has energy for the game. Every manager has flops (GJ included) and he seems to have done well. People who ask 'If Cotterill, what about the 5 pillars' etc. have, imo, completely misunderstood the strategy. What strategy? Other than blind panic, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Panic just about sums it up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 And IMO every CITY fan should feel/do the same Its only going to hurt us further to get on a new managers back from the get go, even if you think its a bad appoitment Cheers MarkYou mean like how we backed or past managers of we didn't agree they were the right man? Our fans stick together like marble and water... With regards to this, I had more faith in Millen, McInnes and O'Driscoll than I do Cotterill and looking at his CV and reports of the football he produces I see little reason to go down the gate any time soon. The board needed an appointment with good experience, some passion to inspire the fans to back him and a record of wanting to play good football, they have failed on every account and so it won't be a surprise if the fans don't back him, I for one am less than excited to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 He usually starts well, it's the rest of it I'm not sure about! Thats good then 'cos a couple of early wins should see out of the bottom 4 and an average season after that will keep us safe. What a simple game it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm gonna support him from the off, anyway. Seems an honest bloke, took Cheltenham up twice, this league ain't designed for Spanish football anyway. My inkling is he'll do us, suprisingly, ok. But we shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sometimes even managers with the best CVs in the world go to a club and it just doesn't work out for them. Other times managers with average CVs do well at a club just look at Slade and Leyton Orient. At the end of the day no one knows how's he is going to do let's just give him a bit of time get behind the lads and hope he can do a good job here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 News flash; OTIB goes into meltdown because a few fans full of their own self importance don't like the choice of new manager. Get over it and back whoever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If he is our new manager, then I welcome him and wish him well He's got a hell of a job on his hands +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Think he will make us harder to beat and give us more fight. Two things that have been sadly missing last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HarryCardno Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Long term? In the last 4 years Cotterill has managed 3 teams and been part of the coaching team at QPR. He has managed at Notts County, Portsmouth and Nottingham Forest an average of 38 game tenure. In addition to this he instantly resigned from Stoke when offered a lucrative chance as Sunderland's assistant. Doesn't seem the most committed person to any cause. Mr J Lansdown explained he wanted someone to buy into the club after Sean O'Driscoll left. One of our pillars, which I have no problem with infact I think it's good to have goals, is Financial Control. In terms of managers that means to have one for the long term and one that is successful so we don't have to fire them and more importantly pay them compensation come this part of the season. Doesn't seem the correct fit, need someone exciting at this club that will lift fans morale as well as player morale and more importantly fire us up the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Lets hope it isn't long term. I can't think of a many managers I want here less, truly appalling choice from a truly appalling board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 News flash; OTIB goes into meltdown because a few fans full of their own self importance don't like the choice of new manager. Get over it and back whoever it is.you post this like it's a new thing, the problem is I think a lot of fans don't expect the next manager to last for more than a year and so there is no real connection. I thought So was going to be the man we stick with but now I've just lost faith in our board as they've shown no backbone and sacked the man responsible for the majority of our new staff but still want to keep said staff!? It's a shambles and how can the fans be expected to back a man they deep down expect to be gone next year. The board are responsible for such volatile fans, they make mistake after mistake after mistake which causes the fans to become restless and disillusioned and then when they got Sod in and let him finally start a rebuild everyone has been crying out for they sack him before he's anywhere through it. If we had been relegated under SOD to league 2 I could have accepted it a lot easier but now relegation looks all the more likely with an uninspiring manager coming in to carry on SODs work with SODs staff, no money to spend and our star player obviously unhappy that the manager he signed to play under has gone. Explain to me how Cotterill is going to be a better option for taking us forward because I just can't see it and if you think that means I have some form of self importance then so be it but as a fan of this club I want what's best for it and I don't see it in Cotterill, I just hope he can prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HarryCardno Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Well he hasn't been confirmed yet but lots of rumours so perhaps he isn't in just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Oh dear I hope this news isn't true. It's about as inspiring as waking up to find yourself being noshed off by Susan Boyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I was hoping you had some "in the know" information and were going to tell us he wasn't coming after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 You got the Life of Riley going on there, riley. (Who is Rachel Riley??) Don't fret, she's no relation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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