BRISTOL86 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Loan market, where I personally wanted us to be shopping all along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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'Orns Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 5 in 6 games for French u21 Which sounds fantastic, but they could've been against Estonia, Lithuania, Scotland.....you get my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Sebastien Haller has only signed recently so they won't be looking to sell already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 5 in 6 games for French u21 Who were their U21's playing? You can get some awful U21's teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Would love it if we tried getting Kelechi Iheanacho from Man City reserves, He looked good on there pre season tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Should of went in for Freddie Sears done very well at Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Would love it if we tried getting Kelechi Iheanacho from Man City reserves, He looked good on there pre season tour Easy for you to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Agreed but loaning is like renting a property - dead money. It's just the opposite of the Gray thing. Why spend big on a fee then balk at the wages only to get a loanee in on a massive wage, who isn't even your asset at the end of it?! Quite simple as I said, we're not an attractive option at the moment, finishing mid table this season would make us a more attractive prospect for signing players next season. It's unlikely we are going to attract the best players in the division straight away as can be seen with Gray/Gayle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyed Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I doubt we will look abroad as it seems we are wanting to buy somebody to go straight into the team - I think having another striker having to adapt to English football wouldn't be the way SC will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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samo II Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 vydra is available on loan That would be nice. Proven goal scorer in this division. If this is the case, I'd say he'd be a fantastic addition - proven at this level, and and both an excellent finisher and hard worker, from what I've seen. Notice he signed a permanent deal there this summer, though; maybe not as available as all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Agreed but loaning is like renting a property - dead money. It's just the opposite of the Gray thing. Why spend big on a fee then balk at the wages only to get a loanee in on a massive wage, who isn't even your asset at the end of it?! Depends how you view it I suppose. The rental analogy is good but a rental property doesn't have the potential to earn you money. A loan can still fire you to the Premier League. Personally I view the wages contribution for a loan to include an element of a 'transfer fee' just as clubs spread the cost of transfer fees across the length of the contract for accounting purposes. That we won't have employment costs and employers NI is also quite significant I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Should of went in for Freddie Sears done very well at Ipswich. Wasn't it fairly widely reported that we tried but he went to Ipswich instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Depends how you view it I suppose. The rental analogy is good but a rental property doesn't have the potential to earn you money. A loan can still fire you to the Premier League. Personally I view the wages contribution for a loan to include an element of a 'transfer fee' just as clubs spread the cost of transfer fees across the length of the contract for accounting purposes. That we won't have employment costs and employers NI is also quite significant I imagine. Yeah I think you can argue it both ways. If you assume the player purchased doesn't depreciate in value and you at least recover your outlay on sale then it becomes much of a muchness assuming they're on a similar wage. But out of signing Gray or loaning Hooper for the same wage (speculative) I know what I'd rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityred2000 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Arnaud Lusamba- Central Midfielder... From Nancy in the Ligue 2 (where Kodjer came from) He scored 5 goals and started 30 times... He's also played for France u16's, 17's & 18's... This guy looks like a beast for his age and whether he was to be loaned out or start/come off the bench he's certainly got a bright future ahead of him! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaud_Lusamba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 If this is the case, I'd say he'd be a fantastic addition - proven at this level, and and both an excellent finisher and hard worker, from what I've seen. Notice he signed a permanent deal there this summer, though; maybe not as available as all that? i heard it wrong sorry, the manager said he might go out on loan they are thinking about it. forest have made an enquiry for him on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 i heard it wrong sorry, the manager said he might go out on loan they are thinking about it. forest have made an enquiry for him on loan No need to apologise, fella! And sound like you might have it right; if Forest have enquired, no reason we shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Getting silly now, 2 weeks till window closes, arguably could say we need a quality midfielder, striker and defender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's a shame that James Vaughan has such a poor injury record, think he would have been an option. Contract not being renewed for the very reason he can't stay fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Why has the Gray thread been deleted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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