Fat Cigar Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Just remember guys, stockhausen writes what the club wants him to write. Hope you're right because I'm feeling depressed. Keep looking at all these top targets we're linked with and think we haven't got a hope. A bigger club comes along and that's that. If the club wants this particular piece written, bit odd isn't it? Will simply alert other clubs to bid. To be honest, I'm already fed up with the transfer speculation. This is why Johnson said it will take 3 windows. We need to consolidate ourselves in this league and eventually become more desirable. Need to earn the right to get top players. Struggling to get L1 players. Must remember, we were only there a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Pepper Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Just remember guys, stockhausen writes what the club wants him to write. Which could mean "Lets take the heat off and lower the expectations so we can look like heroes when the deals done!" or "We can't afford him" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Just remember guys, stockhausen writes what the club wants him to write. Yep, you're not wrong there. I know someone who knows him....so I'm ITK....about Stockhausen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 He's given his opinion. How is that an update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Just remember guys, stockhausen writes what the club wants him to write. Like BCFC's business done for this window, 5 minutes before Baker and Moore sign?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 If...if, this is our strategy, the club needs its head examined. I can't see it being the case. Just can't. It's not a strategy, it's a suicide note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, billywedlock said: We were told the same story last season I seem to recall, about prices getting fairer near deadline. It never happened. Tomlin as it stands is out of our price range. We were bidding in desperation, and selling clubs could see that, as could agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Tomlin as it stands is out of our price range. But a 3 year contract at £30,000 a week plus a 3 million transfer fee is less than the 8 or 9 million gambles we were supposed to be trying for last year - and they were transfer fees only, not wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipflopcity Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 As per my previous post on the JET thread… My info was that we offered JET £20 K per week to stay but he wanted £24 K so left.. If that was True then Tomlin would still be in our range as was D James who was rumoured to be on a massive earner… As LJ stated last week he was staggered at the expected earnings in the championship…. Come on Mr Lansdown speculate to accumulate, but remember 1982 !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 What ever happens lee Tomlin won't sign for us for a penny less than his contract he is on now. So if we want him we will have to pay big bucks in wages, really is interesting to see how it pans out . My hunch is he will come here on loan again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, flipflopcity said: As per my previous post on the JET thread… My info was that we offered JET £20 K per week to stay but he wanted £24 K so left.. If that was True then Tomlin would still be in our range as was D James who was rumoured to be on a massive earner… As LJ stated last week he was staggered at the expected earnings in the championship…. Come on Mr Lansdown speculate to accumulate, but remember 1982 !!!! Why would we offer JET that much to sit on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 40 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Just remember guys, stockhausen writes what the club wants him to write. No he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Spoons said: What ever happens lee Tomlin won't sign for us for a penny less than his contract he is on now. So if we want him we will have to pay big bucks in wages, really is interesting to see how it pans out . My hunch is he will come here on loan again. Are we able to give him a huge signing on fee but reduce his wages to amount to the same in total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Spoons said: What ever happens lee Tomlin won't sign for us for a penny less than his contract he is on now. So if we want him we will have to pay big bucks in wages, really is interesting to see how it pans out . My hunch is he will come here on loan again. Disagree. £28k a week at Bournemouth. Would be happy on 25-26k here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: No he doesn't. Yes, he really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipflopcity Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Why would we offer JET that much to sit on the bench? Perhaps the others in the team are on a similar wedge ? but my source is pretty accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandy Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 33 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said: Hope you're right because I'm feeling depressed. Keep looking at all these top targets we're linked with and think we haven't got a hope. A bigger club comes along and that's that. If the club wants this particular piece written, bit odd isn't it? Will simply alert other clubs to bid. To be honest, I'm already fed up with the transfer speculation. This is why Johnson said it will take 3 windows. We need to consolidate ourselves in this league and eventually become more desirable. Need to earn the right to get top players. Struggling to get L1 players. Must remember, we were only there a year ago. The problem is how do you consolidate without improving the squad. The mindset must be to get players better than what we have and make sure we are prepared to pay the going rate. If this does not happen we will back to league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, Spoons said: What ever happens lee Tomlin won't sign for us for a penny less than his contract he is on now. So if we want him we will have to pay big bucks in wages, really is interesting to see how it pans out . My hunch is he will come here on loan again. That's one thing that definitely won't happen. And one thing we do know, Bournemouth want rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Are we able to give him a huge signing on fee but reduce his wages to amount to the same in total? Possibly I suppose , hopefully the money men at the gate are coming up with ways to make it work. But can't see them paying £20,000 plus, like wise Tomlin won't be giving up his best contract he's ever had or going to have to join us on less wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Disagree. £28k a week at Bournemouth. Would be happy on 25-26k here. We won't pay £25-26k per week. No chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Yes, he really does. Yeah sure, what about the article he wrote a couple of years ago slating the way the club was run whilst Coppell, Millen and McInnes were here? Last year on twitter when Adam Baker had a pop at him over something he wrote? AS is an indepedent journo and you are basically saying that he has zilch integrity as he writes on behalf of City? Sorry, but that's complete nonsense. AS has had a pretty tumultuous relationship with City for a long time, so unless something has drastically changed then I can assure you he is in the back pocket of no-one at City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 14 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yeah sure, what about the article he wrote a couple of years ago slating the way the club was run whilst Coppell, Millen and McInnes were here? Last year on twitter when Adam Baker had a pop at him over something he wrote? AS is an indepedent journo and you are basically saying that he has zilch integrity as he writes on behalf of City? Sorry, but that's complete nonsense. AS has had a pretty tumultuous relationship with City for a long time, so unless something has drastically changed then I can assure you he is in the back pocket of no-one at City. Ahh, I get what you're saying now. Mark Ashton and Lee Johnson use him. He'll write what they tell him, without even checking it out. Trust me, Anything Ashton says, he writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Is Dack a smokescreen for Tomlin? We we say via AS we can't afford LT, then put Bournemouth off the scent by dopping in similar transfer fee for BD which gets out bourn outh and LT think we are going elsewhere and then come back to the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, mightyreds89 said: Is Dack a smokescreen for Tomlin? We we say via AS we can't afford LT, then put Bournemouth off the scent by dopping in similar transfer fee for BD which gets out bourn outh and LT think we are going elsewhere and then come back to the table? That's exactly how we got baldock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saunders87 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 What if @CITYAREREDANDWHITE is Andy Stochausen!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, Spoons said: We won't pay £25-26k per week. No chance I hope you're right. In order to build our club slowly, sensibly and steadily we don't need to be paying any player that sort of wage. In order to satisfy a certain section of fan's lust for the spectacular- clearly we do. Sad that some believe that unless SL goes potty financially, it is a sign of his lack of ambition. Perhaps these folk should take a look at the Bristol Rugby strategy which was steady and increasing investment with a large dollop of patience. We had one of our best ever seasons with a tiny squad which balanced the books and had an even smaller one to retain our place in the Championship. I'd love Tomlin to come here but not just because we merely meet his wage demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, Saunders87 said: What if @CITYAREREDANDWHITE is Andy Stochausen!? Then he'd have a spookily similar name to Andy Stockhausen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattjtsmith Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Chalkie said: But a 3 year contract at £30,000 a week plus a 3 million transfer fee is less than the 8 or 9 million gambles we were supposed to be trying for last year - and they were transfer fees only, not wages. That's because fees don't matter as much in terms of FFP if I'm right? I think that just looks at wages spent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, mattjtsmith said: That's because fees don't matter as much in terms of FFP if I'm right? I think that just looks at wages spent? FFP in the Championship is about losses....nowt to do with wages (unlike Lrague One and Two) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: FFP in the Championship is about losses....nowt to do with wages (unlike Lrague One and Two) True indeed - but a signing on fee could be conveniently ignored when it comes to a "wage structure".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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