grifty Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Spoke to some Watford fans at work and they all would still have him in their current prem team. Main consensus was that he is top championship/lower prem defender but keeping him fit is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 52 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: @southvillekiddy I'm getting the impression you didn't rate Nosworthy Now you are being very naughty and I'm guessing you are being ironic? Nod your head if I'm getting warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, southvillekiddy said: Now you are being very naughty and I'm guessing you are being ironic? Nod your head if I'm getting warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: touche my babby. Sarcasm on the web - a piece of whatshisname Dramatic irony, Litotes, hyperbole on the web - strictly for the advanced practitioner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Välkommen till svensklaget nr. 1 Joel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Välkommen till svensklaget nr. 1 Joel! That's easy for you to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 While I am delighted with the way the club is going and, for the first time for a long while, feel truly optimistic, I do have slight misgivings over the number of foreign players we are signing. I would hate us to end up like Arsenal with a team full of players from the four corners of the world with unpronouncable names and no local connections at all. Obviously we cannot field a side of eleven players from Nailsea but I sincerely hope we retain our Bristol influence and develop more Joe Bryans etc. In the meantime.....COYRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Red Bill said: While I am delighted with the way the club is going and, for the first time for a long while, feel truly optimistic, I do have slight misgivings over the number of foreign players we are signing. I would hate us to end up like Arsenal with a team full of players from the four corners of the world with unpronouncable names and no local connections at all. Obviously we cannot field a side of eleven players from Nailsea but I sincerely hope we retain our Bristol influence and develop more Joe Bryans etc. In the meantime.....COYRs. We can't put the football world back to the 1950s. And sometimes we see the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's good to remember the past but in truth in over 60 years of watching City we have never fielded a local side. The first City winger I thrilled to was Alec Eisenstrager, a German POW, who was much loved by the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, Red Bill said: While I am delighted with the way the club is going and, for the first time for a long while, feel truly optimistic, I do have slight misgivings over the number of foreign players we are signing. I would hate us to end up like Arsenal with a team full of players from the four corners of the world with unpronouncable names and no local connections at all. Obviously we cannot field a side of eleven players from Nailsea but I sincerely hope we retain our Bristol influence and develop more Joe Bryans etc. In the meantime.....COYRs. until the whole coaching system over here right down to youth levels is overhauled and replaced with one that works, we wont be able to field a team of local players AND progress. With the reluctance of the FA we are probably looking 15 years minimum (time for the first generation of players going through a working system from a young age all the way to the verge of seniors) but probably will be nearer 30 if it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Is Nailsea in Bristol then? Live and learn !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Neo said: Is Nailsea in Bristol then? Live and learn !! Thank you for your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Ivorguy said: It's good to remember the past but in truth in over 60 years of watching City we have never fielded a local side. Cashley, Collier, Fear, Merrick, Tainton, Mabbutt, Cheesley, Garland, Rodgers.....all were around the team/squad at pretty much the same time...all are Bristolian....seems pretty local to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniro Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 "He brings that experience, he's very assured as a human and also as a footballer," City boss Lee Johnson told BBC Radio Bristol http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37271257 Well, it's good to hear he's assured as a human being - wouldn't really want to be signing players from another species ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 12 hours ago, Ray White said: Why would any self respecting professional footballer want to go and play for that laughing stock of a football club?! To prove 'ees fitness and attract other interest..if he gets back to full fitness I'm sure we are a shop window also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 7 hours ago, Red white and red said: You only need to thank me once mate... Can't say it enough. Just spotted what happened Doh. Anyone else experiencing problems posting. Ahhhhhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 On Monday, September 05, 2016 at 11:37, Robert the bruce said: At least Benny had personality... Might have but he was still out of his depth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I agree with this. Personally I would like us to sign abroad as that's where the value for money is. But I would like us to also put a lot of money into the academy! Why is it such a great thing to say we have a team full of Englishmen if we didn't help them get to the stage they are at? If we had homegrown talent as well as foreigners who we could potentially sell for more than we have bought for, I think we could be onto a very successful business module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sorry it didn't quote what I tried too from RedBill, but I'm sure you get the gist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, CiderHeadDan said: I agree with this. Personally I would like us to sign abroad as that's where the value for money is. But I would like us to also put a lot of money into the academy! Why is it such a great thing to say we have a team full of Englishmen if we didn't help them get to the stage they are at? If we had homegrown talent as well as foreigners who we could potentially sell for more than we have bought for, I think we could be onto a very successful business module. Bobby Reid, Joe Bryan, Scott Golbourne, Wes Burns... We have also signed a host of youngsters for the academy who are English. As said before a huge problem is with the coaching at lower age groups and through the system. Another issue is that clubs with a better rated academy can pinch our best prospects and that the club has been so slow setting up its scouting of youth in the area that clubs like West Brom and Southampton are established in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Welcome Joel! Hope it works out fine. Now we got Swedish players and Swedish supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 14 hours ago, EnderMB said: I've not seen much on here, but on Facebook there's loads of people that aren't too pleased with this transfer. Ignore most on Facebook it seems full of loathing, read on there the other day one of our "fans" slagging others off for not singing in the family section and not selling out the Rotherham end, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Bobby Reid, Joe Bryan, Scott Golbourne, Wes Burns... Wes is from Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Cashley, Collier, Fear, Merrick, Tainton, Mabbutt, Cheesley, Garland, Rodgers.....all were around the team/squad at pretty much the same time...all are Bristolian....seems pretty local to me? Almost 40 years ago, we haven't had that quality since, if you want us to field all the local talent we'd be no higher then the gas I'm sorry to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 6 hours ago, CiderHeadDan said: I agree with this. Personally I would like us to sign abroad as that's where the value for money is. But I would like us to also put a lot of money into the academy! Why is it such a great thing to say we have a team full of Englishmen if we didn't help them get to the stage they are at? If we had homegrown talent as well as foreigners who we could potentially sell for more than we have bought for, I think we could be onto a very successful business module. You mean exactly what we do now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Welcome Joel....... Joel Ekstrand ohh Joel Ekstrand ohh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 8 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Bobby Reid, Joe Bryan, Scott Golbourne, Wes Burns... We have also signed a host of youngsters for the academy who are English. As said before a huge problem is with the coaching at lower age groups and through the system. Another issue is that clubs with a better rated academy can pinch our best prospects and that the club has been so slow setting up its scouting of youth in the area that clubs like West Brom and Southampton are established in this area. Yeah I'm not saying we haven't got academy players (I probably didn't word my post the best) but I'm just talking in general I think that this is the business module we need to keep implying. It would really help if we had a category one status academy as it will only lead to more players coming out of the academy. I guess the point I was trying to make is, id rather have foreigners who are value for money than just buying a player purely because they're English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 11 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Cashley, Collier, Fear, Merrick, Tainton, Mabbutt, Cheesley, Garland, Rodgers.....all were around the team/squad at pretty much the same time...all are Bristolian....seems pretty local to me? I think you inadvertently make my point for me. The players you quote were in different teams at different dates. Cheesley, Fear, Garland ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: I think you inadvertently make my point for me. The players you quote were in different teams at different dates. Cheesley, Fear, Garland ??? Our most successful team of that period contained 7 or 8 Scotsmen I think. A lot of them may have come through the youth structure of that time but they were early imports like a few of the kids we are adding now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Our most successful team of that period contained 7 or 8 Scotsmen I think. A lot of them may have come through the youth structure of that time but they were early imports like a few of the kids we are adding now. The promotion squad of 75-76 (total 18) contained 7 Scots but only Sweeney, Gow and Ritchie were regular starters. There were also 8 Bristolians, plus Drysdale, Whitehead and Mann. Cashley, Shaw, Bond, Drysdale, Sweeney, Gow, Bain, Collier, Rodgers, Merrick, Tainton, Mann, Ritchie, Cheesley, Whitehead, Brolly Fear, Gillies. Bain was a youth and didn't make any apps. that season, in fact only 5 (plus 5 subs.) in total for the club. Brolly and Gillies, though not consisently first choice starters, played an important part, and Keith Fear appeared 14 times. Ray Cashley was ever present so no openings for Shaw (or Bond) and David Rodgers, though having already made his mark in previous seasons missed the whole campaign, presumably through injury. We had a fairly regular starting line up with many players either ever present or only missing a few games: Cashley, Sweeney, Drysdale, Gow, Collier, Merrick, Tainton, Ritchie, Cheesley and Mann all appeared in the majority with Fear/Whitehead/Gillies and Brolly filling in where necessary. Only 1 sub. in those days of course, and not always used. So, 3 Scots were first choice regulars with Gillies and Brolly amongst those either filling in or vying with each other for a starting place, and in the end appearing in about half the games each. Of the 7 Scots only Ritchie and Gow (and Bain) were not signed as pros. from other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Ivorguy said: I think you inadvertently make my point for me. The players you quote were in different teams at different dates. Cheesley, Fear, Garland ??? Keith Fear was with us from 1969 to 1978 Paul Cheesley was with us from 1973 to 1976 Chris Garland's second spell with us was from 1976 - 1983 So, with the overlaps I'd say they were in and around the same teams/squads for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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