Lanterne Rouge Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Reading between the lines, it seems even the more sensible of them are really starting to get a bit twitchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoSheds Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Oh Dear their Doomed Oh well never mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Reading between the lines, it seems even the more sensible of them are really starting to get a bit twitchy. If we were in their position (shudder!!), wouldn't you? Actually, scrub that, this smiley is much more apt. Edited December 20, 2015 by ciderup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 1 minute ago, ciderup said: If we were in their position (shudder!!), wouldn't you? Too right I would. I`d have been convinced the club had no future for about four years now and oblivion, or at least Conference South which amounts to the same thing, was now approaching like a runaway train! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 It would appear Nick Piggs and Boycie have decided to pull the plug regarding finance and they are in deep trouble if / when they lose the appeal. I'm pretty sure their Wonga loan is secured against the dump as well? Would I be right in saying Wonga and super Sainsburys' could force them to sell the Mem? Ah well, Xmas soon eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 **** taking the Tote, small beer. Saino's and Wonga take the Mem ! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 it will be renamed the borrow a basket ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Can you imagine the phone call? 'Steve, it's Nick' 'Who?' 'Nick Piggs, the R**ers Chairman, you know, that crappy little club up the road' 'What do you want, pikey and it's Mr lansdown to you scummer?' We were wondering if we could borrow your palatial stadium for our match as Sainsbury's have changed the locks at the Mem?' 'HA HA HA HA', drrrrrrrrrr...... 'Steve, Steve, you still there'? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Reading between the lines, it seems even the more sensible of them are really starting to get a bit twitchy. Maybe. However, true to form, most of them are too busy masterbating about Cotterills next interview, Steve Lansdown's imminent departure from AG and "this time next year blah blah blah" to care about what's going on behind the scenes at the Mem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I am fairly sure Rovers will muddle through. I hope so anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 7 hours ago, Coombsy said: bloodash said: 8 hours ago Topper Gas said: Seems we can't prove to Sainsbury's we can meet their extra £199K Appeal costs so they've gone for security against the Mem, it's hard to believe NH is trying to convince fans there's a Plan B cost millions but an't even meet Sainsbury's Appeal costs, sounds to me we'll be virtually bankrupt should we lose the Appeal? Although Sainsbury's taking out a charge against the Mem must be a new low for them as losing £199K is hardly going to bankrupt them? Sainsburys have been very cute in their public relations but to potentially send a football club to the wall could be a disaster for them for a small amount of money it would turn football fans in general against them and in the long run cost them a great deal of money they've won the case but still want their pound of flesh not the smartest of moves Disagree, they offered us a settlement, we said no. And as I've said several times, even though this has dragged on for literally years, if you went to a Sainsbury's (outside of Bristol) and asked 100 people for their view, 99 of them wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about. And even in Bristol, most people would be more interested in the price of a cauliflower than our case. When I looked up "Ninjas" in Thesaurus.com, it said "Ninjas can't be found". Well played Ninjas, well played. bulbous Joined: December 2014 Posts: 374 Member is Online Breaking News - Club To Appeal 5 hours ago Quote Post by bulbous on 5 hours ago people wont give a shyte what football fans think, apart from rovers fans does anyone really care that eastville became a tesco ? unless this fabled ;consortium; are around then uwe is kaput Topper Gas Joined: May 2014 Posts: 1,933 Member is Online Breaking News - Club To Appeal 5 hours ago Quote Post by Topper Gas on 5 hours ago I doubt football fans would be too impressed if Sainsbury's sent us into Admin, although having a charge on the property simply safeguards their money should NH's Plan B be to put BRFC1883 into Admin should we lose the Appeal. I guess all the wonga loan has now been spent as, if not, surely we could have have lodge £199K of the loan with courts as security? Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/3641/breaking-news-club-appeal#ixzz3utMb2mKE if they lose and have to pay Sainsbury compo it's there own doing they all ready lost in court but still trying to push in having another court trying to make Sainsbury but some thing they don't want Piggs keeps saying they're confident they will win the appeal. If he's so confident,why doesn't he stump up the 199K? That should have Sags worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think they will lose again but I think they will easily survive. It seems odd they are appealing against a behemoth but what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 3 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: Piggs keeps saying they're confident they will win the appeal. If he's so confident,why doesn't he stump up the 199K? That should have Sags worried. Why stump up real cash when you can provide a charge for the cost of the legal fees? They are paying sky high interest rates to Wonga already and £200k is a lot of money to a club that's new to the football league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 On 19 December 2015 at 12:42, Bristol Rob said: Why do Sainsbury's have a 200k charge against the Mem? I assume it's for legal fees if they win the appeal, but with both Wonga and Sainsbury's having a claim on the Stadium, there is only the Grotto left without a mortgage on it. I believe the Grotto is earmarked for Dismaland II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 We could let them share Ashton Gate with us if it all goes wrong for them, we shouldn't forget how much they tried to help us in 1982 when we were in trouble..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Henbury Gas Club Legend Posts: 1,698 Posting Level Next Level in 1302 posts 15 hours ago QuotePost by Henbury Gas on 15 hours ago 16 hours ago gasincider said: The bigger worry is that the original MSP loan seems unable to cover the costs of the appeal, and this must be why we renegotiated the loan , presumably to borrow more. If this is the case what the hell happened to the original loan? Surely it cannot have been spent already on the original case plus running the club until the end of this season? After all, we haven't got through this season yet. It really highlights the fact that the directors are no longer funding the club, and it's now sh*t or bust as far as they are concerned. Nobody else can take the place of MSP having first charge on the stadium, so it must mean we have borrowed more. Presumably also from them. We are going to hell in a hand cart. Well, we would be if it was not for the consortium. This is a sure fire way of getting a damn good deal when he loses the appeal. As they say in all the good stories, the less they have to pay , the more can be spent on the club. What I find totally disgraceful is that NH doesn't even have the decency to call an EGM to tell the shareholders what is happening. I know there is no legal requirement for him to do so, but it just reinforces the disdain in which he holds the fans who are one of the biggest shareholders. Cue the " look out it's the anti Higgs agenda again". Some of you who still believe in him really are sleepwalking into oblivion. I fully expect to club to go into Administration soon after we fail the appeal...... and with the UWE about to look for different investment we may not have a plot of land to build on if we win the appeal ! "Using a living, breathing, feeling man as a glorified vibrator is fine, but making it too clear is unkind and indecent" severncider First Team Posts: 636 Posting Level Next Level in 364 posts 15 hours ago Henbury Gas likes this. QuotePost by severncider on 15 hours ago 15 hours ago Henbury Gas said: 17 hours ago severncider said: There is no way the £2.6m MSP loan would cover all the Directors outstanding loans as they were in June 2014, yet alone the other items mentioned. I was refering to the Barclays Loans big boy ! Can YOU confirm the purpose of the MSP Loan then ? Sorry, I did not read this properly I have no connection with the makers of Severncider. This was the name of my tenpin bowling team from the 1960's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I've seen toilet cubicles bigger.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 12 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: Maybe. However, true to form, most of them are too busy masterbating about Cotterills next interview, Steve Lansdown's imminent departure from AG and "this time next year blah blah blah" to care about what's going on behind the scenes at the Mem. I did say the more sensible ones - a tiny minority I know but I believe they do exist. BTW don`t see any rebuttal of any of this from our erstwhile Tote End warrior, St Andrews Gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, Iron Man said: I've seen toilet cubicles bigger.. So tacky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 hours ago, Iron Man said: I've seen toilet cubicles bigger.. Looks like a 10 year olds bedroom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 20 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Looks like a 10 year olds bedroom... Nah, most 10 year olds bedroom have paint on the walls. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 5 hours ago, Iron Man said: I've seen toilet cubicles bigger.. That is probably a new "façade" (breeze block wall) to Santa's Grotto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 14 hours ago, havanatopia said: I am fairly sure Rovers will muddle through. I hope so anyway. Splitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Dagenham have sacked their manager today making it two teams this season who've seen fit to sack the manager after losing at home to Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 6 hours ago Peter Parker and astafjevs like this. Quote Post by Seth Starkadder on 6 hours ago 6 hours ago lostinspace said: 7 hours ago Seth Starkadder said: It's not Sainsbury's who are potentially sending a football club to the wall. Maybe not, but you can assured that IF Sainsury win the day with the effect of forcing BRFC to the wall then the headline will indicate that.................. then you have to [as you always should] read the small print!! I doubt it. It will be seen as what it would be: long-term mismanagement, reckless decision-making, and betting the club on a lost cause, all by a board whose prime responsibility is to stop the club going to the wall. Sainsbury's said they were invoking a clause in a contract two years ago, just as the club would have done if it had suited them. That didn't push the club to the wall. Every decision since then is down to the club. The fortunes of Bristol Rovers is no-one else's responsibility. The sooner we drop the whining victim approach, blaming someone else (Wycombe Wanderers, a dodgy agent, John Ward, luck and chemistry, the city council, local residents, a retail company, a student housing company, et al) and try to sort ourselves out, the better. kingswoodpolak Bruce Bannister Joined: May 2014 Posts: 1,922 Breaking News - Club To Appeal 3 hours ago Quote Post by kingswoodpolak on 3 hours ago 6 hours ago Seth Starkadder said: 6 hours ago lostinspace said: Maybe not, but you can assured that IF Sainsury win the day with the effect of forcing BRFC to the wall then the headline will indicate that.................. then you have to [as you always should] read the small print!! I doubt it. It will be seen as what it would be: long-term mismanagement, reckless decision-making, and betting the club on a lost cause, all by a board whose prime responsibility is to stop the club going to the wall. Sainsbury's said they were invoking a clause in a contract two years ago, just as the club would have done if it had suited them. That didn't push the club to the wall. Every decision since then is down to the club. The fortunes of Bristol Rovers is no-one else's responsibility. The sooner we drop the whining victim approach, blaming someone else (Wycombe Wanderers, a dodgy agent, John Ward, luck and chemistry, the city council, local residents, a retail company, a student housing company, et al) and try to sort ourselves out, the better. Absolutely spot on and we all know the driving force behind this mentality. It's made an embarrassment out of us and I believe it's lost a lot of goodwill that we may have had prior to this I'm just a soul whose intentions are good oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/3641/breaking-news-club-appeal#ixzz3uzAb1tzt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I`m gutted. He missed out `sheeds in the away end` from the blame list. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 18 hours ago, havanatopia said: I am fairly sure Rovers will muddle through. I hope so anyway. Mods - please can I request a "dislike" button? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 7 minutes ago, red panda said: Mods - please can I request a "dislike" button? We`ve needed one of those on here for years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirColinOfMansfield Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 No sooner than the Memorial Stadium gets listed as an Asset of Community Value, Higgs' solicitors have just given the council notice that they intend to sell up! So the plot thickens ... just days after Sainsbury's register a charge on the ground! https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history How long will it take before one of the sags reads it on here and their forums go into meltdown ..... again?! OTIB ... always first with the breaking news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 26 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: No sooner than the Memorial Stadium gets listed as an Asset of Community Value, Higgs' solicitors have just given the council notice that they intend to sell up! So the plot thickens ... just days after Sainsbury's register a charge on the ground! https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history How long will it take before one of the sags reads it on here and their forums go into meltdown ..... again?! OTIB ... always first with the breaking news! Where's that juicy bit of news coming from Sir Colin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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