Baba Yaga Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Before they made the decision I was thinking someone like Roma as Mourinho gave him his debut or possibly a loan move to Ajax since Ten Haag is from there and its not too far to travel. I doubt he will have to go as far as Saudi as people who aren't English won't be as invested (I know the images speak for themselves but there won't be the weekly circus in europe at all the matches like it would have been here). Wouldn't be surprised at all if its a club in the champions league or europa looking for a good deal. Edited August 22, 2023 by Baba Yaga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Maltshoveller said: The problem is Its Football Some team somewhere will turn a blind eye and sign him 11 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said: I wonder if Rovers have enquired as to his availability? What about City? We signed Danny Simpson, a bloke who was charged and actually found guilty of the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said: What about City? We signed Danny Simpson, a bloke who was charged and actually found guilty of the exact same thing. I understand your point. But I’m not sure Danny Simpson (allegedly) attempted to rape anyone - unless you know better than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred89 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 17 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: This confuses the hell out of me… Two investigations, both found he had not done enough to be charged. If he done something wrong, why is she still with him? If he didn’t do anything wrong, why is he still with her? If the finds were that he has done nothing to be charged with, why is he not able to carry on his career at Utd? Is this purely due to the media trial more than anything else? Celebs saying they will no longer be associated with the club if Greenwood is reinstated back into the team. On what basis have they made this decision. I don’t get any of it! Social media and the court of public opinion if I remember correctly she never actually made changes the video got shared amongst kids schools and he was arrested out of uproar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Fred89 said: Social media and the court of public opinion if I remember correctly she never actually made changes the video got shared amongst kids schools and he was arrested out of uproar Wrong. His girlfriend Harriet Robson put the images and audio clips on her own Instagram with the caption "To anyone who wants to know what Mason Greenwood actually does to me." https://tribuna.com/en/news/football-2022-01-30-move-your-f-legs-up-you-t-mason-greenwoods-girlfriend-leaks-audios-alleging-man-united-st/?utm_source=copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Fred89 said: Social media and the court of public opinion if I remember correctly she never actually made changes the video got shared amongst kids schools and he was arrested out of uproar What utter bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dollymarie said: Their main and only witness changed their mind, and told the CPS that they wouldn’t be testifying anymore, and so the CPS decide there sadly wasn’t a strong enough case without said witness, to have a reasonable chance of a prosecution. That’s the only reason a trial isn’t going ahead anymore. Exactly Marie was that not what I’ve said? Oh I see you were replying to the earlier post. Yes that’s as it seems. In that case I can understand the anger from many. Lucky she still wanted to marry him I guess! Edited August 22, 2023 by REDOXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Two Championship clubs hold Mason Greenwood transfer discussions - with Man Utd forward preferring to remain in England after exit decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Sounds like even the Saudis won't touch him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) It's ironic that he leaves Utd by ' mutual consent'...probably had to ask his agent what consent meant... Edited August 23, 2023 by spudski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 A perfect fit for the Gash - I bet their thug Manager's already on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Time to move on. No conviction; no proof; the club says they’re sure he didn’t do what he was accused of; the bloke has admitted he is far from perfect and has apologised. What more do people want? There are quite a few people who have been actually found guilty of reprehensible acts but who have been allowed to resume their chosen career (a murderer acting on Eastenders springs to mind). I don’t know what really went on, but then it’s not for me to come to conclusions. Let he who is without sin, etc. etc. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, spudski said: It's ironic that he leaves Utd by ' mutual consent'...probably had to ask his agent what consent meant... Very witty. I wanted to post a ‘laugh’ Emoji, but feared my intention might be misconstrued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Time to move on. No conviction; no proof; the club says they’re sure he didn’t do what he was accused of; the bloke has admitted he is far from perfect and has apologised. What more do people want? There are quite a few people who have been actually found guilty of reprehensible acts but who have been allowed to resume their chosen career (a murderer acting on Eastenders springs to mind). I don’t know what really went on, but then it’s not for me to come to conclusions. Let he who is without sin, etc. etc. United didn’t even talk to the victim so I’m taking their ‘investigation’ with a pinch of salt. Probably just investigated how much money they could get for Greenwood as if he was worthless they’d have got rid of him 18 months ago. As for no conviction, his innocence or guilt hasn’t been tested in court. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: no proof There is proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Time to move on. No conviction; no proof; the club says they’re sure he didn’t do what he was accused of; the bloke has admitted he is far from perfect and has apologised. What more do people want? There are quite a few people who have been actually found guilty of reprehensible acts but who have been allowed to resume their chosen career (a murderer acting on Eastenders springs to mind). I don’t know what really went on, but then it’s not for me to come to conclusions. Let he who is without sin, etc. etc. No proof, only audio recordings of his partner trying to get him to leave her alone after she wouldn't consent to sex Only photos of the state he battered her into How many times do you think the former happened before she thought to start recording at the next instance? Edited August 23, 2023 by transfer reader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Time to move on. No conviction; no proof; the club says they’re sure he didn’t do what he was accused of; the bloke has admitted he is far from perfect and has apologised. What more do people want? There are quite a few people who have been actually found guilty of reprehensible acts but who have been allowed to resume their chosen career (a murderer acting on Eastenders springs to mind). I don’t know what really went on, but then it’s not for me to come to conclusions. Let he who is without sin, etc. etc. Whoosh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Saw something earlier that stated that the Saudi FA (or whatever their equivalent is) could block any team going for him, as it doesn't want to ruin it's reputation... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 21 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Time to move on. No conviction; no proof; the club says they’re sure he didn’t do what he was accused of; the bloke has admitted he is far from perfect and has apologised. What more do people want? There are quite a few people who have been actually found guilty of reprehensible acts but who have been allowed to resume their chosen career (a murderer acting on Eastenders springs to mind). I don’t know what really went on, but then it’s not for me to come to conclusions. Let he who is without sin, etc. etc. Well presumably, while we aren’t ‘without sin’, we aren’t all woman beaters and rapists. Unless all sins are equal so we can never say anything about anyone doing anything?? As well discussed, the ‘cleared of all charges’, while arguably true at a technical level, is only half the story and the pictures and audio tell their own public story that require some public explanation if he wants public forgiveness. (If legal resolution and private forgiveness is all he wants and needs, that’s absolutely fine, but that likely won’t get him his career back any time soon). Admitting you ‘weren’t perfect’ is not a confession or an explanation such that people can move on. He needs to explain it properly. If he doesn’t want to, if it is too damaging for his partner, fine. But he probably won’t have a chance to get his football career back until he does. Hes basically said ‘I’m not perfect but I didn’t do what I’m accused of. I know it looks like I’m a serial abuser and possibly a rapist and there is strong evidence showing I am, but I’m not, so I hope that’s settled and can I move on now and get a sweet contract because I’m ace at football’. I believe in redemption and rehabilitation. But first step in understanding abusive behaviour is to admit to it. If he’s not willing to do that, then how can he ask for public forgiveness? And public forgiveness is what he needs to get his career back. And, the thing no one seems to mention, just because he’s been caught out and had a baby with his victim, that doesn’t draw a line under his abuse. If he isn’t properly addressing it, if he’s in denial, then the chances are he will do it again. Second chances are not impossible. Third chances much less likely. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 Apparently he was offered the chance to resurrect his career with the Gas. However, Greenwood has turned down the offer saying "I have my reputation to think about!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Gone to Getefe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Big C said: Gone to Getefe On loan, which is interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost Rider said: On loan, which is interesting So he’s still being paid by United? He still has a contract? get me off this world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Big C said: Gone to Getefe Would have thought this was the worse time for a Spanish club to sign MG given what's going on with the women's team and their FA (dick)head atm! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 7 hours ago, alexukhc said: So he’s still being paid by United? He still has a contract? get me off this world I’m guessing he’s still at Man United technically. My guess is, loan him out and see if everything calms down after a year on loan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, jaydee=inspiration said: Would have thought this was the worse time for a Spanish club to sign MG given what's going on with the women's team and their FA (dick)head atm! Exactly what i thought this morning when i saw this news. Madness. Edited September 2, 2023 by Loco Rojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost Rider said: I’m guessing he’s still at Man United technically. My guess is, loan him out and see if everything calms down after a year on loan. Just read about it, apparently no loan fee and he’s on loan because if Man U release him he is due an 8 million pay off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost Rider said: I’m guessing he’s still at Man United technically. My guess is, loan him out and see if everything calms down after a year on loan. Apparently they are are going to pay all his wages and haven’t got a fee for him going so yes basically they probably just wanted him away from the club for a bit. According to the Athletic Man U pretty much were set to announce that Greenwood was staying until they saw the public backlash when the story was leaked out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, alexukhc said: So he’s still being paid by United? He still has a contract? get me off this world Sacking him would have involved morals and making a stand, where business rules all. I've no doubt they hold out the hope of getting some money back for him , while Getefe pay his wages ? The money men at United must be crying into their Chardonnay looking at his value. Edited September 2, 2023 by 1960maaan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 45 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: Apparently they are are going to pay all his wages and haven’t got a fee for him going so yes basically they probably just wanted him away from the club for a bit. According to the Athletic Man U pretty much were set to announce that Greenwood was staying until they saw the public backlash when the story was leaked out . They didn't want him away from the club did they? Their plan was to reintegrate him into their squad. Videos had even been filmed about it. It was only because of the huge backlash that they were forced to change their minds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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