WRERE Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, petehinton said: People seem to love to keep saying this conspiracy (seen it posted on Twitter now as well) but HNM has already played over 100 games all in…. Generally the clause is only for league games which he's currently on 99. I agree though, I think the whole 100 appearance fee clause is total bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, City oz said: I can see BS3 going nuts when he does score his first goal. It's clear that Pearson will not play HNM again. Edited January 28, 2023 by cidered abroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, mozo said: The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be. I thought that but looking at his stats he is on 99 league games so see some truth in that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Maybe cos HNM hasnt performed well enough in training and games to warrant a start Edited January 28, 2023 by brad blit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, M.D said: I have a feeling its contractual reasons with Martin and HNM, Martin is a contract extension with appearances and with HNM, a fee to Monaco after 100 games. NP said in one of his pressers that he didn't know anything about him being on 99 games. So either he was telling porkies or this isn't right. To be clear, I see no reason why he would deny it, even if it was true as he is pretty open about most things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, petehinton said: People seem to love to keep saying this conspiracy (seen it posted on Twitter now as well) but HNM has already played over 100 games all in…. Plus people keep on repeating this, but even if it was based on 100 league games only (& he is on 99 there) he was subsequently on the bench at home to Watford, which is then completely illogical if this was true. I also can’t believe Martin’s year extension that he triggered last March would contain a clause for yet another year afterwards. He’s got a bloody good agent, if it does. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, brad blit said: Maybe cos HNM hasnt performed well enough in training and games to warrant a start Sorry editing because I might have got the wrong point... He's been good enough for us ever since he joined. What changed? Edited January 28, 2023 by mozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: NP said in one of his pressers that he didn't know anything about him being on 99 games. So either he was telling porkies or this isn't right. To be clear, I see no reason why he would deny it, even if it was true as he is pretty open about most things. No way he is going to openly admit to not playing someone due to a clause in their contract. Also the way he answered the question led me to a different view to you. He knows darn well that HNM is on 99 games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: No way he is going to openly admit to not playing someone due to a clause in their contract. Also the way he answered the question led me to a different view to you. He knows darn well that HNM is on 99 games. I watched the interview , you’re seeing things that ain’t there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Plus people keep on repeating this, but even if it was based on 100 league games only (& he is on 99 there) he was subsequently on the bench at home to Watford, which is then completely illogical if this was true. There's also no reason he couldn't be in the squad for cup games. I just think NP has washed his hands of him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, mozo said: Sorry editing because I might have got the wrong point... He's been good enough for us ever since he joined. What changed? He had some good games but more bad ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Anyway, Harry Cornick. Is he any good? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) back on topic, I'm underwhelmed at potentially signing 27 year old Cornick. Ogbene or Nombe would be much more exciting and ones who might improve in the future. Edited January 28, 2023 by old_eastender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, WRERE said: Generally the clause is only for league games which he's currently on 99. I agree though, I think the whole 100 appearance fee clause is total bs I disagree. When I’ve looked at the legal sites re PFCC (tribunal / compo), every transfer they ruled on had different stipulations. Where they used a standard 20, 40, 60 type clause it was appearances (not League), where it deviated away from that it was mixed between appearances and league appearances. Here’s a screenshot of one of the less standard ones: His career didn’t quite have the trajectory expected! Still only 29…he’s at Barnet! As for Massengo, I’ve no idea whether there us even a clause, let alone whether it’s league or all appearances. If it is 100 league appearances, then putting him on the bench before Xmas would seem strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, old_eastender said: back on topic, I'm underwhelmed at potentially signing 27 year old Cornick. Ogbene or Nombe would be much more exciting and ones who might improve in the future. Why? He should be a decent signing for quite cheap. He also might not be our only signing. Ogbene looks to be going to Boro and I'd imagine Nombe would be too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 I quite like Cornick, he certainly seems to play well against us, but as he's fundamentally a winger he's likely to be inconsistent. His form this season looks a bit of a mystery. According to the Luton website he's played 738 minutes spread over 19 games. However, of the 19 games only 7 were starts and he got subbed off in 6. The problem is these are only bare statistics. Has he only made 7 starts because he's out of favour, out of form or doesn't fit the tactical plan? Has he been subbed off because he was playing poorly, because the manager changed formation, or because he'd run himself into the ground? I think I'll just trust NP and his staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 23 hours ago, Winterstoke toad said: Luton absolutely love us Last line reminds me of Life of Brian What have the Lansdowns ever done for us? etc etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: No way he is going to openly admit to not playing someone due to a clause in their contract. Also the way he answered the question led me to a different view to you. He knows darn well that HNM is on 99 games. So you’re calling Pearson a liar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, mozo said: Sorry editing because I might have got the wrong point... He's been good enough for us ever since he joined. What changed? He has no intention of signing a new deal and hasn't for a long time. That's why he's out the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 20 hours ago, cityexile said: He did not do much, but my abiding memory of Anderson was away v Sunderland. Live on Sky (a rarity for us), where we got completely and utterly stuffed, he comes on at one nil down and belts in an equalizer late on. Good goal, but across the match completely undeserved point. It was a complete robbery, but it was easy to see across the 90 who would finish higher that season. I remember that game for a different reason. Drank far too much cider before the game, went for a slash in the first half, sat back in my seat and then realised that I'd somehow managed to lose my way and was actually sitting in with the Sunderland fans, with my City shirt on! A couple of coppers came over and escorted me back to the City section, and I got a few cheers 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, old_eastender said: back on topic, I'm underwhelmed at potentially signing 27 year old Cornick. Ogbene or Nombe would be much more exciting and ones who might improve in the future. Watch the video. He looks very good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Stockwood gate said: I thought that was a Friday night home to Bolton when wardy came into the Atyeo next day he was gone Definitely the Crewe game. Ward may well have done similar later v Bolton but I don't remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, RedRoss said: He has no intention of signing a new deal and hasn't for a long time. That's why he's out the team. Semenyo was going to move un the summer. Had no intention of signing a new contract. Angled for a move this window. We treated him very differently. Both players can contribute to the first team (more so Antoine obvs). I'll stop now because I go round know the same circles with different people on different threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, mozo said: The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be. It makes absolute sense. He's leaving so waiting to get off the bus. He's also not intrinsic to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Maybe Massengo should have his own thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RedRoss said: He has no intention of signing a new deal and hasn't for a long time. That's why he's out the team. Not signing, 2 decent academy midfielders coming through who by definition will be hungrier, so he’s now become replaceable. As Pearson highlighted in a recent press conference, HNM has chosen a path that his is entitled to and suits his purpose but there are consequences for him of doing that. He’ll play him if he needs to, but with the new formation there are arguably 3/4 players ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, mozo said: Semenyo was going to move un the summer. Had no intention of signing a new contract. Angled for a move this window. We treated him very differently. Both players can contribute to the first team (more so Antoine obvs). I'll stop now because I go round know the same circles with different people on different threads. Semenyo may or may not have been signing a new contract, but he was not out of contract this summer which is the basic difference. As I said on a previous post there are now 3/4 players in front of him for a midfield slot including 2 academy players. No agenda, just circumstances combined with a manager that wants committed players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Is this the Harry Cornick thread? (Perhaps we should just have one thread where anyone could talk about anything!) 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORANGE500 Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, mozo said: The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be. If his performances were anywhere near as good as some incredulously think it wouldn't matter about his contract situation Pearson would play him every week. He's been 4 out of 10 on average throughout his time at City so hardly irreplaceable or first name on the team sheet and is no real loss to the match day squad and needs to move on. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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