Mr Popodopolous Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, spudski said: I'm all for ' footballing' type keepers...but seriously, does anyone think our defenders are capable of receiving the ball in the 18 yard box, under a high press, and being able to move, pass, and take advantage of the space in behind? Prem players are incapable without making mistakes. How could anyone trust our lot to do so? The playing out from the back, drawing players, using the keeper, all in the 18 yard box has been laughable in this country. I would say yes to some extent , mistakes will happen but it is also a bit like with Naismith risk v reward. Vyner's propensity to err has reduced significantly and we know Atkinson is decent technically, can carry it. I also think Naismith in front can also drop back into a 3 in certain phases. Kalas if fit and in form while less expensive than the rest can be conservative technically but sound if that makes sense. (Granted can isn't always the same as will). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I would say yes to some extent , mistakes will happen but it is also a bit like with Naismith risk v reward. Vyner's propensity to err has reduced significantly and we know Atkinson is decent technically, can carry it. I also think Naismith in front can also drop back into a 3 in certain phases. Kalas if fit and in form while less expensive than the rest can be conservative technically but sound if that makes sense. (Granted can isn't always the same as will). That's cool...but we can agree to disagree on this aspect. I don't see anything that will reward us in playing short under a high press with our players..let alone better ones. I feel it's the one tactic being employed in British football that we aren't technically good enough to take advantage off. Too many times, it leads to losing the ball, or conceding. Then you have the knock on affect of mistakes,band players then playing cautiously or nervously. I don't think we are technically good enough or mentally. It's the one tactic that I feel coaches/ managers in this country get wrong, and think the players are capable of doing it well on a regular basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, spudski said: That's cool...but we can agree to disagree on this aspect. I don't see anything that will reward us in playing short under a high press with our players..let alone better ones. I feel it's the one tactic being employed in British football that we aren't technically good enough to take advantage off. Too many times, it leads to losing the ball, or conceding. Then you have the knock on affect of mistakes,band players then playing cautiously or nervously. I don't think we are technically good enough or mentally. It's the one tactic that I feel coaches/ managers in this country get wrong, and think the players are capable of doing it well on a regular basis. Yeah we can agree to disagree on that. Technically sound CBs? Possibly yes. Interested in the mental aspect though, Atkinson and his error v Swansea was appalling e.g. There is a time to play and a time to hit it longer or take a safety option nor sure I'd advocate the long ball approach either. Hitting it long vs a pair of CBs is quite difficult- we're not a long ball side but it's about finding that balance really. Edited January 25, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yeah we can agree to disagree on that. Technically sound CBs? Possibly yes. Interested in the mental aspect though, Atkinson and his error v Swansea was appalling e.g. There is a time to play and a time to hit it longer or take a safety option nor sure I'd advocate the long ball approach either. And a one-off. Obviously we notice when playing from the back causes a goal or a dangerous incident, but statistically I am sure it's no worse than giving away possession further down the pitch by hitting long hopeful balls. It just takes longer to see the results. I am sure @Davefevswill have some data on this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMarch Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 Are we about to announce this guy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Major Isewater Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, BCFCGav said: we all know who the real evil is when it comes to Russia. Joey Barton ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Major Isewater Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 Absolutely no one ITK on OTIB . Standards people, standards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Port Said Red Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: Absolutely no one ITK on OTIB . Standards people, standards. Some of us have to keep our lips sealed at times Major....... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Major Isewater Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Some of us have to keep our lips sealed at times Major....... oh , right ho, mum’s the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Absolutely no one ITK on OTIB . Standards people, standards. I know naff all Major so at least show some consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) After playing European football the last few years I doubt he’s here to sit on the bench but time will tell. what I’m more impressed with was how his deal was obviously done before bents was allowed to leave . As was discussed earlier, let’s hope that’s the case if Antoine leaves. Edited January 25, 2023 by steviestevieneville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said: case of Antoine leaves. Sounds like a sort of vegan Christmas present. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 Can we get confirmation of his height? I’m sure @Merrick's Marvels would also be interested 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, SBB said: Can we get confirmation of his height? I’m sure @Merrick's Marvels would also be interested With or without yellow keeper’s socks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Sounds like a sort of vegan Christmas present. Or a herbal remedy for piles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, SBB said: Can we get confirmation of his height? I’m sure @Merrick's Marvels would also be interested 1.85M according to transfermkt, a smidge over 6 feet. A value of £1.5M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 Interesting (& good) to see that it’s a deal until the end of the season….. keeping options open for what is likely to be a busy summer of transfer activity 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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