Major Isewater Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 With the football seasons kicking off around the globe what the dickens is young Massengo doing without a club? The last news I found was that he had turned down Burnley ( 25 July) because he wanted to play regularly for the first team and now it appears that he’s without a club so not playing at all. That went well then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 He’s likely waiting until the window closes and then will sign for someone. I expect he’ll sign somewhere in early September. If he’s not got a club after a week or two then he’s clearly not played this situation very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, B-Rizzle said: He’s likely waiting until the window closes and then will sign for someone. I expect he’ll sign somewhere in early September. If he’s not got a club after a week or two then he’s clearly not played this situation very well. As a free agent he already hasnt played the situation very well, he should have been signed up with a full pre season under his belt. Perhaps hes not as in demand as he thought he would be! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: With the football seasons kicking off around the globe what the dickens is young Massengo doing without a club? The last news I found was that he had turned down Burnley ( 25 July) because he wanted to play regularly for the first team and now it appears that he’s without a club so not playing at all. That went well then. Probably busy taking some pretty photographs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 A lot of good players still without a club David de Gea Jesse Lingard Roberto Pereyra Xeka Alfredo Morelos Eden Hazard Han-Noah Massengo Sergio Ramos Axel Tuanzebe Reggie Cannon Yairo Moreno Santi Mina Jean-Kévin Duverne Moussa Marega Achraf Bencharki Mounir Chouiar José Campaña Haris Belkebla Álvaro Aguado Aylton Boa Morte Nampalys Mendy Yann M’Vila Tanguy Coulibaly Tiemoué Bakayoko Mariano Díaz Ismael Silva Josuha Guilavogui Jaloliddin Masharipov André Ayew Alan Soñora Tariqe Fosu Hamidou Traore Ishak Belfodil Andrija Majdevac Rubén Pardo Fredrik Gulbrandsen Stevan Jovetic Nicola Sansone Adrien Silva Andros Townsend 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziderarmy Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 HNM sandwiched between Hazard and Ramos on that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 I still feel like we missed a trick with him, he clearly had a lot of talent when he first arrived. Perhaps had the best elements of his game coached out of him like a lot of players we get here 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: A lot of good players still without a club David de Gea Jesse Lingard Roberto Pereyra Xeka Alfredo Morelos Eden Hazard Han-Noah Massengo Sergio Ramos Axel Tuanzebe Reggie Cannon Yairo Moreno Santi Mina Jean-Kévin Duverne Moussa Marega Achraf Bencharki Mounir Chouiar José Campaña Haris Belkebla Álvaro Aguado Aylton Boa Morte Nampalys Mendy Yann M’Vila Tanguy Coulibaly Tiemoué Bakayoko Mariano Díaz Ismael Silva Josuha Guilavogui Jaloliddin Masharipov André Ayew Alan Soñora Tariqe Fosu Hamidou Traore Ishak Belfodil Andrija Majdevac Rubén Pardo Fredrik Gulbrandsen Stevan Jovetic Nicola Sansone Adrien Silva Andros Townsend Lot of famous names you mean not so much good players anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, mozo said: Probably busy taking some pretty photographs Yeah, big girls blouse interested in photography......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Simon bristol said: As a free agent he already hasnt played the situation very well, he should have been signed up with a full pre season under his belt. Perhaps hes not as in demand as he thought he would be! Certainly not as much as his "advisors" were telling him, hope they're not now blaming him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: A lot of good players still without a club David de Gea Jesse Lingard Roberto Pereyra Xeka Alfredo Morelos Eden Hazard Han-Noah Massengo Sergio Ramos Axel Tuanzebe Reggie Cannon Yairo Moreno Santi Mina Jean-Kévin Duverne Moussa Marega Achraf Bencharki Mounir Chouiar José Campaña Haris Belkebla Álvaro Aguado Aylton Boa Morte Nampalys Mendy Yann M’Vila Tanguy Coulibaly Tiemoué Bakayoko Mariano Díaz Ismael Silva Josuha Guilavogui Jaloliddin Masharipov André Ayew Alan Soñora Tariqe Fosu Hamidou Traore Ishak Belfodil Andrija Majdevac Rubén Pardo Fredrik Gulbrandsen Stevan Jovetic Nicola Sansone Adrien Silva Andros Townsend We should sign them all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, B-Rizzle said: He’s likely waiting until the window closes and then will sign for someone. I expect he’ll sign somewhere in early September. If he’s not got a club after a week or two then he’s clearly not played this situation very well. He's having his strings pulled- As simple as that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 He could still make a good move, just as Kalas has, signing for Schalke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Leveller said: He could still make a good move, just as Kalas has, signing for Schalke. Yes he could but it’s not ideal leaving it so late and missing out on preseason. I fully expected him to get snapped up quite quickly. Could he regret turning down Burnley ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 I understand why we are interested in him at present (possibility of financial gain)...other than that I have no interest in whether or not he gets a contract etc.... Every decision has consequences. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Major Isewater said: With the football seasons kicking off around the globe what the dickens is young Massengo doing without a club? I think he had delusions of Great Expectations but, yes, it's beginning to look a bit Bleak House for him. No doubt.... 'something will turn up'. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 Sounds like he’s been listening to his da…..agent a bit too much and is probably waiting for a top half prem team to come in and guarantee him 90 mins every game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 It’s possible he’s not as good as he thinks he is and as some of our fanbase did. Lovely hair, but you’d have to ask what he’s “for” as a player. Runs around a lot (almost headless) and never developed in the time he was here - we can all point to the lack of goals and assists but the broader issue was that HNM was positionally pretty poor and had one good game in five/ten 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: It’s possible he’s not as good as he thinks he is and as some of our fanbase did. Lovely hair, but you’d have to ask what he’s “for” as a player. Runs around a lot (almost headless) and never developed in the time he was here - we can all point to the lack of goals and assists but the broader issue was that HNM was positionally pretty poor and had one good game in five/ten Burnley wanted him!!! As @petehinton says his Da’gent (French for Father and Agent! ) priced him out of it. Pure speculation, but I suspect the other clubs mentioned over the last 12 months ago found a similar problem. Theres a lot made of his “headless positioning”, but Korey Smith was deployed similarly, to “rat” out the ball ahead of a safely positioned Marlon Pack protecting the CBs. Korey wasn’t the CB screen, nor was Han-Noah. Just like Matty James can stay in position because he has others doing a lot of legwork in front of him. It’s probably why we saw the best of Han in those early days when 1) Brownhill played the disciplined role and 2) he formed a relationship with Palmer, but then with Nagy he didn’t. Nagy never played the midfield role for us in the same way he did for Hungary. Overall it’s a shame. I think he’d really suit us with Scott gone. I don’t expect to have many agreeing with me though. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I think he had delusions of Great Expectations but, yes, it's beginning to look a bit Bleak House for him. No doubt.... 'something will turn up'. Maybe Our Mutual Friend will sign him for Hibs… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Burnley wanted him!!! As @petehinton says his Da’gent (French for Father and Agent! ) priced him out of it. Pure speculation, but I suspect the other clubs mentioned over the last 12 months ago found a similar problem. Theres a lot made of his “headless positioning”, but Korey Smith was deployed similarly, to “rat” out the ball ahead of a safely positioned Marlon Pack protecting the CBs. Korey wasn’t the CB screen, nor was Han-Noah. Just like Matty James can stay in position because he has others doing a lot of legwork in front of him. It’s probably why we saw the best of Han in those early days when 1) Brownhill played the disciplined role and 2) he formed a relationship with Palmer, but then with Nagy he didn’t. Nagy never played the midfield role for us in the same way he did for Hungary. Overall it’s a shame. I think he’d really suit us with Scott gone. I don’t expect to have many agreeing with me though. Always wonder what if fully fit and in the shape we had now, a Nagy-Smith-Brownhill- Massengo as first reserve for one of the first two in particular- could have done. Over time. Could have been quite good I reckon but we will never know! I wonder... Bentley/Maenpaa Pereira Kalas Baker DaSilva Nagy Smith Weimann Brownhill Eliasson Afobe Granted injuries! Kalas early, DaSilva early for half a season, Nagy early, Smith persistent spells at a time and Afobe just as he was getting going. For all but the whole season save for the Covid extension. Weimann would not be a winger as such, insidieish wideish right forward and Brownhill could also drop back into a 3 when needed. If set up well it's not bad..also if the injuries much reduced. Edited August 27, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Burnley wanted him!!! As @petehinton says his Da’gent (French for Father and Agent! ) priced him out of it. Pure speculation, but I suspect the other clubs mentioned over the last 12 months ago found a similar problem. Theres a lot made of his “headless positioning”, but Korey Smith was deployed similarly, to “rat” out the ball ahead of a safely positioned Marlon Pack protecting the CBs. Korey wasn’t the CB screen, nor was Han-Noah. Just like Matty James can stay in position because he has others doing a lot of legwork in front of him. It’s probably why we saw the best of Han in those early days when 1) Brownhill played the disciplined role and 2) he formed a relationship with Palmer, but then with Nagy he didn’t. Nagy never played the midfield role for us in the same way he did for Hungary. Overall it’s a shame. I think he’d really suit us with Scott gone. I don’t expect to have many agreeing with me though. Think you’ll find it’s actually Monsieur Papa Dix-Pourcent 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Think you’ll find it’s actually Monsieur Papa Dix-Pourcent Avec la plume de ma tante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think he’d really suit us with Scott gone. I don’t expect to have many agreeing with me though. I may be alone but I agree. For me the best football we played last season was the first half at home to Luton where Han and Alex dominated the midfield with exactly the energy and intensity Nigel talks about. The same could have happened with him and Knight imo. It seems his career was and is being compromised by his father which is sad because the talent is certainly there. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 There's an element of Britney Spears/Mr. Spears in this Massengo family thing going on here, I feel .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 I still feel even now he was one of those that got away. I aways wanted to play him further forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I still feel even now he was one of those that got away. I aways wanted to play him further forward. Yep, the first home game I saw him in he was playing further forward, looked exceptional, and almost scored twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 19 hours ago, Andy082005 said: We should sign them all Barton's probably tried to! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 6 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Maybe Our Mutual Friend will sign him for Hibs… Do keep up Lee sacked again - all set for SL to sack Nige and have Lee return?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 Sorry the way it worked out with Han, as I liked him as a player and would loved to have seen Han & Alex develop. FWIW, I think there was a lot more behind the scenes, we had a spell when we were playing well and Han was part of our best run last season, but he slowly started getting edged out, I think at times unfairly as he deserved to keep his place. Han came to us as he wanted to play, so why would he sign a new contract and hang around if he is not getting game time. We made a big thing about then not playing him as he had not signed a contract and did not want to block a player who will be here next year, but have then done exactly that with other players since. Still think he has a big future, also waiting for the money from Chelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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