Engvall’s Splinter Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12467633/amp/Burnley-sign-Han-Noah-Massengo-four-year-deal-French-talent-impressed-Championship-Bristol-City-season.html Signed after impressing last season. Must’ve played about 5 games and left on loan for half a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always injured Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12467633/amp/Burnley-sign-Han-Noah-Massengo-four-year-deal-French-talent-impressed-Championship-Bristol-City-season.html Signed after impressing last season. Must’ve played about 5 games and left on loan for half a season. What a load of rubbish when did he impress at city last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: £2.7m from memory. Certainly under £3m. The £7m talked about was nonsense Yep, €3m transfer fee. The stupid thing is that with his contract fully amortised, the fee we’ve agreed with Burnley (rather than go to PFCC “tribunal”) means we make a transfer profit, because his asset value was £0!!! The other huge advantage of him going to Burnley rather than abroad is it gave us the opportunity to add: add-ons, e.g. appearances, international caps, etc a sell-on percentage Whether we did or not is pure speculation, but I’d be disappointed if we didn’t at least get the sell-on inserted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, €3m transfer fee. The stupid thing is that with his contract fully amortised, the fee we’ve agreed with Burnley (rather than go to PFCC “tribunal”) means we make a transfer profit, because his asset value was £0!!! The other huge advantage of him going to Burnley rather than abroad is it gave us the opportunity to add: add-ons, e.g. appearances, international caps, etc a sell-on percentage Whether we did or not is pure speculation, but I’d be disappointed if we didn’t at least get the sell-on inserted. Has it been reported Dave that we settled on a fee rather than going to PFCC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Has it been reported Dave that we settled on a fee rather than going to PFCC? No, it hasn’t, but we did! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12467633/amp/Burnley-sign-Han-Noah-Massengo-four-year-deal-French-talent-impressed-Championship-Bristol-City-season.html Signed after impressing last season. Must’ve played about 5 games and left on loan for half a season. I must have missed that game ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, it hasn’t, but we did! Have we done OK out of this, in your opinion, @Davefevs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Have we done OK out of this, in your opinion, @Davefevs? Don’t do that!! We’ll get a graph, a spreadsheet, a table and something with moving colours on it……and that’s my morning gone trying to work it out. Only joking @Davefevs - I love them really! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Have we done OK out of this, in your opinion, @Davefevs? I honestly don’t know. Hence why I was interested in the post earlier about £600k and its source. I’ve not heard any numbers, just that the “fee” was agreed when Massengo first started talking to Burnley earlier this summer. I don’t think the person will mind me putting that on here. But he didn’t give me numbers or add-ins or anything like that. FWIW even if we got the equivalent of the €360k we’d have got for him going abroad, but got a sell-on too, it would be beneficial/ better than just going abroad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Kompany knows a good player when he sees one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Be interesting to see how his future turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 I've seen him have a handful of good games. Now watch him turn into Jude Bellingham.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Ghost Rider said: I've seen him have a handful of good games. Now watch him turn into Jude Bellingham.... He'll be surrounded by better players so it'll be interesting to see how he shows...I think Burnley are a good fit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Does he fancy coming back on loan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, marcofisher said: Does he fancy coming back on loan? No, Nigel doesn't do loans and Steve doesn't spend money on the playing side. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: No, Nigel doesn't do loans and Steve doesn't spend money on the playing side. He doesn’t? I must’ve been dreaming when I thought we signed that Taylor Gardener-Hickman bloke on loan from West Brom. Silly me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Bit of cash back for us then? Good move for him, maybe just me but I can’t say I’ve ever seen him as a Premier League quality player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, George Rs said: He doesn’t? I must’ve been dreaming when I thought we signed that Taylor Gardener-Hickman bloke on loan from West Brom. Silly me Ooooooooooh, I love a bit of sarcasm. You big naughty boy. Was there no way of replying without you pretending to be funny and hard? The TGH loan deal wasn't a "typical" loan deal. Edited September 1, 2023 by Ghost Rider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 30/08/2023 at 18:21, Ian M said: The knowledge that we will likely not make a loss this season will give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside as we labour to break down teams every fortnight at Ashton Gate. Who else is excited to think how much we can get for Conway in the Summer? Our balance sheet could look pretty exciting over the next two seasons Yep, a great "nest egg" being built to spend on the "right players" when they become available. Not quite sure who will be choosing these "right players" though of course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 And you're spot on he doesn't like loans and made a point in the press conference this week of saying he liked the Taylor Gardener-Hickman loan as there is the option to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Good move for him, think he’ll excel playing in a side that plays good football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 13 hours ago, chinapig said: Yes, after all what does Vincent Kompany know about football? In fairness, Kompany appears to like to sign 50,000 players and sees which stick. He has already signed a couple of duffers for Burnley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, George Rs said: He doesn’t? I must’ve been dreaming when I thought we signed that Taylor Gardener-Hickman bloke on loan from West Brom. Silly me While technically a loan, this is clearly a permanent signing in all but name. Theres no way we pay a 700k loan fee for anyone without it being an effectively permanent transfer, the loan im sure is for some kind of accounting arrangement 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: While technically a loan, this is clearly a permanent signing in all but name. Theres no way we pay a 700k loan fee for anyone without it being an effectively permanent transfer, the loan im sure is for some kind of accounting arrangement I tend to agree. But we do have the option of pulling out / sending him back. The way Nige spoke yesterday, it was clear that he is at least intending to make this permanent. Which is encouraging. Two 22-year-old midfielders signed in this window, with over 150 Championship (JK 112 / TGH 52) games under their belts already before signing. A bit of long-term thinking, especially when you look at James, King and Williams. I think the loan fee was a compromise from both parties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Good luck to HNM as others have alluded. Match of the day will certainly be of more interest with HNM, SEM, and BENTS (bench ) wonder how many starts he will have What odds of all three being back in Championship next season? Luton might prevent that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 I think Massengo will be a good signing for them, there was always signs of a good player there and if they come back down he'll shine in the Championship 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Yep, €3m transfer fee. The stupid thing is that with his contract fully amortised, the fee we’ve agreed with Burnley (rather than go to PFCC “tribunal”) means we make a transfer profit, because his asset value was £0!!! The other huge advantage of him going to Burnley rather than abroad is it gave us the opportunity to add: add-ons, e.g. appearances, international caps, etc a sell-on percentage Whether we did or not is pure speculation, but I’d be disappointed if we didn’t at least get the sell-on inserted. Oh Dave. Your possible disappointment is duly noted. Im hopeful City inserted everything they possibly could! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 30/08/2023 at 15:57, RedRoss said: I'm not sure we'll spend but just glad we've got extra money in the coffers than I was expecting from HNM. We'll need to spend in Jan so every bit helps. We won't spend in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, Superjack said: We won't spend in January. How do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, RedRoss said: How do you know? All the money will be in a “nest egg” for whoever replaces Nige, so that they can splash the cash next summer. Isn’t that the majority OTIB opinion? Edited September 1, 2023 by Dr Balls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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