Popular Post Sheltons Army Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Wanted to pull this aside from the reaction to the overall forum , and Coming from a massive NP respecter, separating what my thoughts are on NP and numerous aspects of it Our new Head Coach Liam Manning I thought firstly he came across as far more relaxed in that setting than I’ve seen on media cameras , which is interesting , you’d think it would be more likely the other way around He came across as very likeable IMHO , he speaks very quickly which means you really have to concentrate to listen to him , and is clearly a very , very ,intelligent , bright , focused individual , a decent bloke , and as I said likeable which is always a great start. He is very intense , as I say clearly very intelligent and the sort of guy who if he wanted to and set his mind to it could become a pilot or surgeon - very interesting I didn’t think his answers to some reasonable questions to him were good I thought they were bloody excellent , explained , answered easily , with clarity , and quickly , no making something up as you go along , no cliches - Bloody excellent , and interesting I noticed people have been comparing him to Lee Johnson. - Like chalk and cheese IMHO in how they answer questions , how convincing they are in their answers ,no bull***t how intelligent or astute they appear Over the years Liam Manning , on that showing has to be , or appears to be , up there as intelligent as a Head Coach / Manager as I’ve heard speak over the years , across fooball - he’s almost professor like My conclusion ..... Very impressive in his focus and intelligence , Can he use those skills to improve players and the team , well we shall see, I admit I’m slightly nervous , but I can’t move away from the fact I really was impressed with him Very much the new age coach - it’s going to be a very interesting watch But back to my original point Liam Manning - Very very impressive What we’re others thoughts / impressions ? Edited November 27, 2023 by Sheltons Army 40 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 He is a bright guy, but weve had so many false dawns over the years, we will have to wait and see if he is any different,, i dont see any reason to think we wont finish 10-15th this season, if manning can get us into the top 6 i will be surprised, and delighted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 I felt the same. I mentioned his humour in the other thread too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 He will absolutely manage in the premier league, probably not with us, but I’m convinced after that that he will. Extremely clear communicator, obviously a really talented coach. Anyone who puts him & LJ in the same bracket is crazy. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: He is a bright guy, but weve had so many false dawns over the years, we will have to wait and see if he is any different,, i dont see any reason to think we wont finish 10-15th this season, if manning can get us into the top 6 i will be surprised, and delighted! It’s the other skill areas as well man management , discipline , team building etc etc that he will also need , that’s my slight ‘concern’ As always it’s about whether players buy in and enjoy working with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 I had a completely open mind when he joined and had done next to nothing on researching him. A few weeks in and I’m definitely warming to him. He wasn’t the sort to make a massive first impression which is fine but I’m liking what I see in these very early days. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Interesting explanation of the Coach Analyst role Basically a coach who is proficient in using analysis software and analysing, rather than an analyst who does a bit of coaching Someone who analyses opponents and produces a game plan and then goes on the grass towards the end of the week to do walk thros , shape , 11 v 11 session is an interesting concept Not sure what you do when we have midweek games mind ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, petehinton said: He will absolutely manage in the premier league, probably not with us, but I’m convinced after that that he will. Extremely clear communicator, obviously a really talented coach. Anyone who puts him & LJ in the same bracket is crazy. I hope we get a good sell on clause for him then from Bournemouth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, petehinton said: He will absolutely manage in the premier league, probably not with us, but I’m convinced after that that he will. Extremely clear communicator, obviously a really talented coach. Anyone who puts him & LJ in the same bracket is crazy. Did anyone ask whether there's a 'buyout' clause in his contract with us?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 @Sheltons Army I said similar to what you sId on a WhatsApp to @petehinton. He was everything I thought he’d be - knowledgeable, articulate, humble, and a bonus - with bit of humour thrown in. I had no issues whatsoever with his other interviews, in fact I thought they were all decent, but tonight he saved that event from being a bit of a flop. It’s the second time I’ve heard him say he’s never chased the next job, the next role…basically let his work do the talking. I think we are in good hands. He is a very good fit for what JL and Tins positioned as what they want. Let’s hope they support him well. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Interesting explanation of the Coach Analyst role Basically a coach who is proficient in using analysis software and analysing, rather than an analyst who does a bit of coaching Someone who analyses opponents and produces a game plan and then goes on the grass towards the end of the week to do walk thros , shape , 11 v 11 session is an interesting concept Not sure what you do when we have midweek games mind ! I’ve mentioned before that the split-role is something Nige has used too, e.g. Steve Walsh at Leicester - part recruitment / part coach. I’m fully behind a bloke who can do the computer stuff and translate it into training sessions, and the reverse too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Very obvious he's a football coach obsessive. A coach's coach. When he said "I think about football pretty much every minute of every day" - I believed him. High intensity, and he's going to expect the same level of intensity from everyone around him. I have no doubts he's a very good coach, but as you point out, it'll come down to how good his other abilities are like leadership and creating a winning environment. Based on tonight, I also have concerns about the people around him, namely the three plebs sat alongside him. The guy he's brought in who was at Arsenal sounds interesting though - a coaching analyst? Edited November 27, 2023 by Kid in the Riot 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Sheltons Army I said similar to what you sId on a WhatsApp to @petehinton. He was everything I thought he’d be - knowledgeable, articulate, humble, and a bonus - with bit of humour thrown in. I had no issues whatsoever with his other interviews, in fact I thought they were all decent, but tonight he saved that event from being a bit of a flop. It’s the second time I’ve heard him say he’s never chased the next job, the next role…basically let his work do the talking. I think we are in good hands. He is a very good fit for what JL and Tins positioned as what they want. Let’s hope they support him well. Put on the forum thread , very polished and professional sort of sums it up. I hope he’s strong enough to resist any interference or too much opinion As you say , you’ve headhunted him , support him and let him get on with his job Head Coach , manager ..... Call them / him what you like - They should be the football lead and most important voice to consider 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: I had a completely open mind when he joined and had done next to nothing on researching him. A few weeks in and I’m definitely warming to him. He wasn’t the sort to make a massive first impression which is fine but I’m liking what I see in these very early days. Not taking any interest in the lower leagues I didn’t actually know where Manning had come from, subsequently learning that it was Oxford. His first public interview on SotC was what you’d expect from a new manager so no clues there but his post QPR interview was more interesting, so to his pre and post match Boro interviews. Glad to see that LM came over as a bright and articulate guy with clear answers to questions - whoever compared him to LJ must have been on the wind up……….. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 I said on the other thread I was thoroughly underwhelmed with his appointment, but thought he spoke really well tonight and I certainly thought he’s got something about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Interesting explanation of the Coach Analyst role Basically a coach who is proficient in using analysis software and analysing, rather than an analyst who does a bit of coaching Someone who analyses opponents and produces a game plan and then goes on the grass towards the end of the week to do walk thros , shape , 11 v 11 session is an interesting concept Not sure what you do when we have midweek games mind ! Do the walkthros quicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 The OP mentions intelligence a few times and I agree. Contrast that with Tinnion and Lansdown Jnr. Two guys with pretty basic intelligence levels I think. Doesn’t bode too well on that front. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: The OP mentions intelligence a few times and I agree. Contrast that with Tinnion and Lansdown Jnr. Two guys with pretty basic intelligence levels I think. Doesn’t bode too well on that front. How very dare you. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: How very dare you. Haha 4 mistakes there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: How very dare you. I thought that had to be a Photoshop job and then I realised I was badly mistaken... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Sounds very technical and very thorough and no doubt is very good at what he does but this is how I see it in my world - I might be a very good builder with all my qualifications and years of experience but when I rock up at the building site I have the bricks , I have the cement but no water I ain’t gonna be able to build a very good house , Hope you get my drift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, redkev said: Sounds very technical and very thorough and no doubt is very good at what he does but this is how I see it in my world - I might be a very good builder with all my qualifications and years of experience but when I rock up at the building site I have the bricks , I have the cement but no water I ain’t gonna be able to build a very good house , Hope you get my drift Surely if you were a ‘very good builder’ you wouldn’t rock up without water or ensuring it was available ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, italian dave said: Did anyone ask whether there's a 'buyout' clause in his contract with us?!! It’s either in the new singing section or in the new away end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Surely if you were a ‘very good builder’ you wouldn’t rock up without water or ensuring it was available ? Good answer , your sort of answering my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: How very dare you. Started at Newcastle United then Bradford then Bristol city then scored a goal at Liverpool to make me famous then i cocked up the managers job then I cleared the pathways at HPC then I ousted Phil Alexander then Nigel Pearson then David Rennie then I juggled Jon Lansdowns plums to become Tecknical ( With a k) director. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted November 27, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Whether it was the more relaxed setting or the comparison with those alongside him on the top table, I thought he displayed a quality that hadn’t been at the forefront to this point, charisma. As good as someone can be from a technical aspect, personal skills are also key in a leader and I feel more confident in him than I did already before tonight. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: How very dare you. 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Haha 4 mistakes there! Dyslexia??? Walt Disney, Richard Branson and Albert Einstein suffered from it, and weren't that stupid. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Redtucks said: Dyslexia??? Walt Disney, Richard Branson and Albert Einstein suffered from it, and weren't that stupid. They all spoke with intelligence as well. Tinnion doesn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wild Bunch Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ian M said: Whether it was the more relaxed setting or the comparison with those alongside him on the top table, I thought he displayed a quality that hadn’t been at the forefront to this point, charisma. As good as someone can be from a technical aspect, personal skills are also key in a leader and I feel more confident in him than I did already before tonight. Definitely agree on the charisma point. The only positive I took from the night was how well Liam came across. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Ashton and myself attended tonight (not media for me tonight, just a fan) Not a great deal of 'new information' of where we are heading into January's transfer window. Only a few 'younger supporters' attended tonight and as we walked in, Liam was right behind us on arrival. A quick photo and a nice 5 minute chat with the new gaffer. Liam was very attentive towards Ashton and came across really well. Seems a genuine bloke to be fair..... Results business though... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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