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Looked like 40 or so City fans ran straight into West Ham large group, police horses responded but as I walked close by I was surprised the city crowd had a lot of ,sounded like polish lads with them ,are they Bristol polish ? 

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3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Did they 'take' any of the pubs - as was apparently their plan? I don't get involved with any of that but I've heard a few suggest there was some trouble about. 

You been watching football factory again?

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the policing after the game seemed a bit random. they stopped you going into the park (2 horses) but everyone just went along 10 feet and went over the wall - what was the point in blocking us at the gate then?

also the police kettled the WH fans then as it got a bit lairy they just let them loose with the city fans. again pointless IMO

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7 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Did they 'take' any of the pubs - as was apparently their plan? I don't get involved with any of that but I've heard a few suggest there was some trouble about. 

I understand they closed the tobacco factory because West Ham fans were in there “singing”. 
Bit childish in my opinion. Nowt wrong with singing. 
 

Re other pubs. I understand there was an incident at the Rising Sun involving the doorman. You can guess who came out on top there 🤣

Plus an incident by Spanish Bar. I believe a few Hammers got a bit of a whacking, even after they had it on their toes. 
I did hear the comment “you’d think they’d be better at running away since they play at an athletics track” 🤣

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5 minutes ago, Antman said:

the policing after the game seemed a bit random. they stopped you going into the park (2 horses) but everyone just went along 10 feet and went over the wall - what was the point in blocking us at the gate then?

also the police kettled the WH fans then as it got a bit lairy they just let them loose with the city fans. again pointless IMO

Yeah was a bit odd. A couple of West Ham fans were getting lairy at some city fans at the start of Coronation Road, but was all words and gestures as usual... They then apparently nearly got run over by a lorry so they started punching it and shouting at the driver.

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5 minutes ago, Harry said:

I understand they closed the tobacco factory because West Ham fans were in there “singing”. 
Bit childish in my opinion. Nowt wrong with singing. 
 

Re other pubs. I understand there was an incident at the Rising Sun involving the doorman. You can guess who came out on top there 🤣

Plus an incident by Spanish Bar. I believe a few Hammers got a bit of a whacking, even after they had it on their toes. 
I did hear the comment “you’d think they’d be better at running away since they play at an athletics track” 🤣

I was in the tobacco factory, nothing but a bit of singing, everyone in there was in a good mood. They stopped serving until they had stopped singing. Pointless really

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19 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Did they 'take' any of the pubs - as was apparently their plan? I don't get involved with any of that but I've heard a few suggest there was some trouble about. 

Yep apparently they were going to go in the lions. Didn’t see any flat cappers in there 

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10 minutes ago, Harry said:

I understand they closed the tobacco factory because West Ham fans were in there “singing”. 
Bit childish in my opinion. Nowt wrong with singing. 
 

Re other pubs. I understand there was an incident at the Rising Sun involving the doorman. You can guess who came out on top there 🤣

Plus an incident by Spanish Bar. I believe a few Hammers got a bit of a whacking, even after they had it on their toes. 
I did hear the comment “you’d think they’d be better at running away since they play at an athletics track” 🤣

I was walking past the rising sun when that happened - some bloke decided it would be a good idea to try diving head first into the door and bouncer. He was on the floor quite quickly after that…

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17 minutes ago, Antman said:

the policing after the game seemed a bit random. they stopped you going into the park (2 horses) but everyone just went along 10 feet and went over the wall - what was the point in blocking us at the gate then?

Walking towards the underpasses post match two policemen were stood at the footpath by the cottages. There was an overwhelming smell of weed everywhere and I asked one if they could smell it - he grinned and shrugged his shoulders………:dunno:

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Walking towards the underpasses post match two policemen were stood at the footpath by the cottages. There was an overwhelming smell of weed everywhere and I asked one if they could smell it - he grinned and shrugged his shoulders………:dunno:

You could work that into an anecdote one day.

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4 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said:

I was walking past the rising sun when that happened - some bloke decided it would be a good idea to try diving head first into the door and bouncer. He was on the floor quite quickly after that…

When I walked past he was on the floor being cuffed by about 4 cops and was repeatedly screaming "stop touching my ass!"

I quite liked how intimidating it was on Ashton Rd after the game, if I was a West Ham fan I'd have been keeping my head down.

A few obviously chose to give some mouth back and there were a couple of small fights. 

The old bill were out for the City young uns trying to nick them all, so a game of hide and seek ensued in the streets behind El Rincon. 

Heard one young'un saying to his mate "I gave him a gurt right hand" classic. 

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5 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Walking towards the underpasses post match two policemen were stood at the footpath by the cottages. There was an overwhelming smell of weed everywhere and I asked one if they could smell it - he grinned and shrugged his shoulders………:dunno:

Partially decriminalised now anyway, innit? AT LAST.

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5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

When I walked past he was on the floor being cuffed by about 4 cops and was repeatedly screaming "stop touching my ass!"

I quite liked how intimidating it was on Ashton Rd after the game, if I was a West Ham fan I'd have been keeping my head down.

A few obviously chose to give some mouth back and there were a couple of small fights. 

The old bill were out for the City young uns trying to nick them all, so a game of hide and seek ensued in the streets behind El Rincon. 

Heard one young'un saying to his mate "I gave him a gurt right hand" classic. 

Reminded me of this 😆

 

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24 minutes ago, Paul G said:

I was in the tobacco factory, nothing but a bit of singing, everyone in there was in a good mood. They stopped serving until they had stopped singing. Pointless really

Was overcrowded there. The one bouncer on the door - usually two of them - allowed masses of folks in then got told off for doing so and locked the doors.

I went to the Beer Factory instead where the atmosphere between home fans and the visitors was relaxed. 

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17 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

When I walked past he was on the floor being cuffed by about 4 cops and was repeatedly screaming "stop touching my ass!"

I quite liked how intimidating it was on Ashton Rd after the game, if I was a West Ham fan I'd have been keeping my head down.

A few obviously chose to give some mouth back and there were a couple of small fights. 

The old bill were out for the City young uns trying to nick them all, so a game of hide and seek ensued in the streets behind El Rincon. 

Heard one young'un saying to his mate "I gave him a gurt right hand" classic. 

Tasty atmosphere walking along Ashton road after, plenty of niggle and a few scuffles leading up to North street, then saw it start by El Rincon , City chased West Ham up side streets. Didn’t see any other trouble after that as crossed river towards Orchard .

Strange bunch, only come back they seemed to say was that they were in Europe, one got told ,” you ain’t in Europe now pal, your in South Bristol”.  Definitely a very changed fan base over the years

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12 hours ago, YorkshireSection said:

Thats CSM, not CSF, it works better if they are French, although theyd be going backwards and surrendering if they were French!

I, along with other France residing fans (formidably led by His Maj, the Major of Isewater), resemble that remark !!  We even have our own flag ready for the heat of battle.

PS: the only thing we do request is that you don't attack us at lunchtime as that is a tad inconsiderate.

à l'eau, c'est l'heure

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57 minutes ago, Harry said:

I understand they closed the tobacco factory because West Ham fans were in there “singing”. 
Bit childish in my opinion. Nowt wrong with singing. 
 

Re other pubs. I understand there was an incident at the Rising Sun involving the doorman. You can guess who came out on top there 🤣

Plus an incident by Spanish Bar. I believe a few Hammers got a bit of a whacking, even after they had it on their toes. 
I did hear the comment “you’d think they’d be better at running away since they play at an athletics track” 🤣

The Rising Sun Incident was nothing to do with West Ham fans. City fan was not allowed in and preceded to go for the bouncer who stopped him

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

I understand they closed the tobacco factory because West Ham fans were in there “singing”. 
Bit childish in my opinion. Nowt wrong with singing. 
 

Re other pubs. I understand there was an incident at the Rising Sun involving the doorman. You can guess who came out on top there 🤣

Plus an incident by Spanish Bar. I believe a few Hammers got a bit of a whacking, even after they had it on their toes. 
I did hear the comment “you’d think they’d be better at running away since they play at an athletics track” 🤣

Depends what they are singing, "stick your tractors up your arse" seemed to be the favourite of the evening. I would say that's slightly inflammatory.

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34 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Depends what they are singing, "stick your tractors up your arse" seemed to be the favourite of the evening. I would say that's slightly inflammatory.

There were similar chants coming from the East End corner of the South Stand involving bubbles. 
I suppose those are less inflammatory because bubbles wouldn’t be as painful as tractors I suppose 😜

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1 hour ago, Pezo said:

Depends what they are singing, "stick your tractors up your arse" seemed to be the favourite of the evening. I would say that's slightly inflammatory.

It almost certainly would be.

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1 hour ago, Pezo said:

Depends what they are singing, "stick your tractors up your arse" seemed to be the favourite of the evening. I would say that's slightly inflammatory.

Was walking up north st to get some grub before the game and bizarrely a load of West Ham fans the other side of the road started chanting ‘you’re shagging your sister’ at me.  Funnily enough I was with my sister, my nephew and my daughter ( and no I’m not!) My 12 year old girl found it baffling that grown men should be shouting that, and I must admit although I found it mildly amusing , aiming that sort of stuff at people with young kids shows the level of intelligence of these drunken muppets 

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14 minutes ago, mattjb said:

Was walking up north st to get some grub before the game and bizarrely a load of West Ham fans the other side of the road started chanting ‘you’re shagging your sister’ at me.  Funnily enough I was with my sister, my nephew and my daughter ( and no I’m not!) My 12 year old girl found it baffling that grown men should be shouting that, and I must admit although I found it mildly amusing , aiming that sort of stuff at people with young kids shows the level of intelligence of these drunken muppets 

Preciously - going in pubs that are usually frequented by family orientated home fans that just want to spend some time together and getting abuse/banter from pissed up ********* is likely to attract attention from our own pissed up ********* that don't usually have anyone to aim there knobish behaviour at.

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3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

When I walked past he was on the floor being cuffed by about 4 cops and was repeatedly screaming "stop touching my ass!"

I quite liked how intimidating it was on Ashton Rd after the game, if I was a West Ham fan I'd have been keeping my head down.

A few obviously chose to give some mouth back and there were a couple of small fights. 

The old bill were out for the City young uns trying to nick them all, so a game of hide and seek ensued in the streets behind El Rincon. 

Heard one young'un saying to his mate "I gave him a gurt right hand" classic. 

Ashton Gate needs to be much more intimidating to away fans and teams. Just like the 80s.
We actually win a few games cause they don’t like a bit of aggression from little old Bristol City.

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53 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Good to hear there's a pathway for our academy young uns to taste some action.

For a minute, I thought the mention of Poles and Serbs meant we'd gone down the loan route instead.

Don’t worry, there are plenty of coke heads coming through. Give it a year or two.

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15 hours ago, Topper 123 said:

Looked like 40 or so City fans ran straight into West Ham large group, police horses responded but as I walked close by I was surprised the city crowd had a lot of ,sounded like polish lads with them ,are they Bristol polish ? 

Yes. we do have a fairly large Polish contingent.

Many of the latest cadre (including other Eastern Europeans) were "recruited" by their City-supporting workmates, and UK-born Poles (including their descendents) who have been following City since the 1960s. So they have been with us much longer than the Czechs and others you mention, and who, very possibly, were brought on-board by the Poles.

There were always around 20 or so Polaks in the East End (and later the Park End) when we were pushing for promotion in the early 70's and throughout our time in the old First Division. They came from all parts of Bristol. Many followed us both home and away. Several went around with well-known mobs throughout Bristol and had close affiliations with certain Irish, Italian and Sicilian groups.

Three of those original Bristol Polaks (this is what they called themselves) still attend home games along with a sizeable number of family members. They sometimes fly those Polish flags (red and white of course with a Golden or White Eagle), so it should be easy enough to spot them.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Yes. we do have a fairly large Polish contingent.

Many of the latest cadre (including other Eastern Europeans) were "recruited" by their City-supporting workmates, and UK-born Poles (including their descendents) who have been following City since the 1960s. So they have been with us much longer than the Czechs and others you mention, and who, very possibly, were brought on-board by the Poles.

There were always around 20 or so Polaks in the East End (and later the Park End) when we were pushing for promotion in the early 70's and throughout our time in the old First Division. They came from all parts of Bristol. Many followed us both home and away. Several went around with well-known mobs throughout Bristol and had close affiliations with certain Irish, Italian and Sicilian groups.

Three of those original Bristol Polaks (this is what they called themselves) still attend home games along with a sizeable number of family members. They sometimes fly those Polish flags (red and white of course with a Golden or White Eagle), so it should be easy enough to spot them.

 

In the old First Division days, the biggest numbers of overseas requests for City merchandise - no online shop back then of course - was from Poland.

I collected stamps in those days (I know, I know.... 😩 ) and I had hundreds of Polish ones, courtesy of the envelopes my dad brought home from the Gate. 

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5 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Thanks RR.

Didn't know that.

Any idea why?

 

Not sure really, but I know during wartime the Bristol area had a sizeable Polish contingent based around here, a number of whom stayed post-War.  Hence the excellent Polish Club in Clifton. 

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40 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Yes. we do have a fairly large Polish contingent.

Many of the latest cadre (including other Eastern Europeans) were "recruited" by their City-supporting workmates, and UK-born Poles (including their descendents) who have been following City since the 1960s. So they have been with us much longer than the Czechs and others you mention, and who, very possibly, were brought on-board by the Poles.

There were always around 20 or so Polaks in the East End (and later the Park End) when we were pushing for promotion in the early 70's and throughout our time in the old First Division. They came from all parts of Bristol. Many followed us both home and away. Several went around with well-known mobs throughout Bristol and had close affiliations with certain Irish, Italian and Sicilian groups.

Three of those original Bristol Polaks (this is what they called themselves) still attend home games along with a sizeable number of family members. They sometimes fly those Polish flags (red and white of course with a Golden or White Eagle), so it should be easy enough to spot them.

 

 

 

Never heard this before, certainly loads of second generation Irish City fans in KW though, I went to the local South Bristol Catholic school and there were very few Polish there (Poland being a very staunch Catholic nation)

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14 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Not sure really, but I know during wartime the Bristol area had a sizeable Polish contingent based around here, a number of whom stayed post-War.  Hence the excellent Polish Club in Clifton. 

Used to be a fair few living up Gloucester rd,St Andrew’s and Bishopston mainly.

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5 hours ago, Robbored said:

Walking towards the underpasses post match two policemen were stood at the footpath by the cottages. There was an overwhelming smell of weed everywhere and I asked one if they could smell it - he grinned and shrugged his shoulders………:dunno:

Seemed like they did the right thing for once.

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25 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Not sure really, but I know during wartime the Bristol area had a sizeable Polish contingent based around here, a number of whom stayed post-War.  Hence the excellent Polish Club in Clifton. 

And the Polish Church 

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1 hour ago, fisherrich said:

Ashton Gate needs to be much more intimidating to away fans and teams. Just like the 80s.
We actually win a few games cause they don’t like a bit of aggression from little old Bristol City.

Game changed for all since then but I did think it was nicely partisan last night, bit feisty. Some of the challenges helped too.

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Load of idiots shouting 'Where's your famous ICF?' like they were in Green Street 3: The tales of Ashton Road before jumping up and down behind horses (both sides on this front). Few punches seen but all relatively shouty and trying to make it look like they were interested in something happening.

Amusing nonetheless!

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21 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Never heard this before, certainly loads of second generation Irish City fans in KW though, I went to the local South Bristol Catholic school and there were very few Polish there (Poland being a very staunch Catholic nation)

Assume you're talking about Primary School.

Holy Cross and St Pius always seemed to have several Poles from the late 50s onwards (though relatively small in proportion to the large number of Irish). Don't forget that many Polish surnames aren't obviously Polish (if you know what I mean).

Some of the kids I knew had surnames such as Ciepek, Doda, Popiel, Hendzel, Cichy, Redko, Krupa and Tarmach.

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42 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Assume you're talking about Primary School.

Holy Cross and St Pius always seemed to have several Poles from the late 50s onwards (though relatively small in proportion to the large number of Irish). Don't forget that many Polish surnames aren't obviously Polish (if you know what I mean).

Some of the kids I knew had surnames such as Ciepek, Doda, Popiel, Hendzel, Cichy, Redko, Krupa and Tarmach.

Christ the King primary in KW and St. Bernadette Secondary, I”m talking ‘70-‘80

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Not sure really, but I know during wartime the Bristol area had a sizeable Polish contingent based around here, a number of whom stayed post-War.  Hence the excellent Polish Club in Clifton. 

And the Polish church on Cheltenham Road.

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3 hours ago, fisherrich said:

Ashton Gate needs to be much more intimidating to away fans and teams. Just like the 80s.
We actually win a few games cause they don’t like a bit of aggression from little old Bristol City.

on the pitch I can get it, but do you really believe that being intimidating to away fans outside of the ground is going to have any effect on the result at all?

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6 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

Christ the King primary in KW and St. Bernadette Secondary, I”m talking ‘70-‘80

Yep, totally forgot Christ the King was the one in KW.

Pius was Hartcliffe.

50s-late 70s were the tail-end of the hey days of corporal punishment. Them sanctimonious priests, and oh-so-holy nuns and brothers certainly knew how to dish it out.

They would have been in their element on the terraces.

But hey, a few “Our Fathers” and a couple of “Hail Mary’s” and all is forgiven.
 

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11 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Yep, totally forgot Christ the King was the one in KW.

Pius was Hartcliffe.

50s-late 70s were the tail-end of the hey days of corporal punishment. Them sanctimonious priests, and oh-so-holy nuns and brothers certainly knew how to dish it out.

They would have been in their element on the terraces.

But hey, a few “Our Fathers” and a couple of “Hail Mary’s” and all is forgiven.
 

One or two of the nuns could be a bit tasty, the priests were fine especially Father Richard when at CTK, he”s been at St. Nicks in Old Market for 30 years now and well respected in the community, one or two of the teachers at Bernadette’s were complete psychopaths !!!!

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42 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Yep, totally forgot Christ the King was the one in KW.

Pius was Hartcliffe.

50s-late 70s were the tail-end of the hey days of corporal punishment. Them sanctimonious priests, and oh-so-holy nuns and brothers certainly knew how to dish it out.

They would have been in their element on the terraces.

But hey, a few “Our Fathers” and a couple of “Hail Mary’s” and all is forgiven.
 

Wow, I played against CTK about 40 years ago when I played for Tidenham U14’s. Friendly played at Offa’s Mead primary school in Sedbury. Got a commerative badge in attic somewhere.

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5 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Yes. we do have a fairly large Polish contingent.

Many of the latest cadre (including other Eastern Europeans) were "recruited" by their City-supporting workmates, and UK-born Poles (including their descendents) who have been following City since the 1960s. So they have been with us much longer than the Czechs and others you mention, and who, very possibly, were brought on-board by the Poles.

There were always around 20 or so Polaks in the East End (and later the Park End) when we were pushing for promotion in the early 70's and throughout our time in the old First Division. They came from all parts of Bristol. Many followed us both home and away. Several went around with well-known mobs throughout Bristol and had close affiliations with certain Irish, Italian and Sicilian groups.

Three of those original Bristol Polaks (this is what they called themselves) still attend home games along with a sizeable number of family members. They sometimes fly those Polish flags (red and white of course with a Golden or White Eagle), so it should be easy enough to spot them.

 

 

 

Group of Poles I worked with in Avounmouth, living in Taunton and Bridgwater. 

come to some home matches, not saying they're hooligans.

 

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3 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Yep, totally forgot Christ the King was the one in KW.

Pius was Hartcliffe.

50s-late 70s were the tail-end of the hey days of corporal punishment. Them sanctimonious priests, and oh-so-holy nuns and brothers certainly knew how to dish it out.

They would have been in their element on the terraces.

But hey, a few “Our Fathers” and a couple of “Hail Mary’s” and all is forgiven.
 

Nun teachers were brutal, I went to CTK and St Bernadette '60s

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