Mr Popodopolous Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: What you clearly fail to appreciate is that the vast majority of people attending the match are not posters on otib and not prone to the same extreme negativity or "I'm not gonna give my money to Lansdown" or "the season was over in January". With 6 points between us and the top six and 45 points still up for grabs and several players on their way back , this team has everything to play for but, hey, don't let that get in the way of your negative nonsense. We'd probably need 30-35 pts from 15 to have a realistic chance of the top 6, maybe 25-30 if lucky. It ain't happening. 1 Quote Link to comment
redkev Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 (edited) Would take a point now , personally think they will beat us there confidence is sky high and they play a fast attractive brand of football , start of the season they were awful at the back playing out but I think they have sorted those issues out , 1-3 in my eyes ( humble pie gratefully excepted if needs be ) if we do lose I will be looking for a big performance improvement on the Leeds game , shame this game doesn’t come 2 weeks later when fingers crossed and if all goes to plan we will probably have the strongest (FIT) squad we have had for a very long time . Edited February 12 by redkev 2 Quote Link to comment
Rocking Red Cyril Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, redkev said: Would take a point now , personally think they will beat us there confidence is sky high and they play a fast attractive brand of football , start of the season they were awful at the back playing out but I think they have sorted those issues out , 1-3 in my eyes ( humble pie gratefully excepted if needs be ) if we do lose I will be looking for a big performance improvement on the Leeds game , shame this game doesn’t come 2 weeks later when fingers crossed and if all goes to plan we will probably have the strongest (FIT) squad we have had for a very long time . Yeah strong fit squad is the key. Players still in injury recovery mode and squad coming off a bust schedule with league and cup games. Wonder if we are expecting any body else back from injury or unexpected selections from the array of talent in our youth system ? 1 Quote Link to comment
redkev Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Yeah strong fit squad is the key. Players still in injury recovery mode and squad coming off a bust schedule with league and cup games. Wonder if we are expecting any body else back from injury or unexpected selections from the array of talent in our youth system ? Stick a fit Sykes , Atkinson , twine , Naismith along with the new chap ( quality unknown) along with the squad that was at Middlesbrough that has to be the best / strongest squad ( fit squad ) for a very long time . 1 Quote Link to comment
elhombrecito Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Had no idea this was on Sky until I read this thread. Let's hope we play a bit better than the Leeds game... As for Southampton, I have a strong dislike for Russell Martin so hopefully we can recreate our recent good performances and give them a run for their money. 1 Quote Link to comment
petehinton Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Really excellent pre match presser with Manning on the clubs YouTube today. Highly recommend 2 Quote Link to comment
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We'd probably need 30-35 pts from 15 to have a realistic chance of the top 6, maybe 25-30 if lucky. It ain't happening. So is this season already over as far as you're concerned? Quote Link to comment
luke_bristol Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, redkev said: Stick a fit Sykes , Atkinson , twine , Naismith along with the new chap ( quality unknown) along with the squad that was at Middlesbrough that has to be the best / strongest squad ( fit squad ) for a very long time . Too late for this season and we’ll sell our best players this summer, so it’s back around the merry-go-round. 1 Quote Link to comment
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, IAmNick said: is everything ok bud OK? Well.... let me think...... We've got a new Manager who I believe will do well and improve on the work of the previous one, we've made some good signings this season with Knight and Dicky outstanding and McCrorie looking promising, we have a strong defence getting stronger, we already have some potentially exciting young talent for next season, a fantastic stadium where we continue to get great support, top training ground and facilities, several players coming back from injury such as Sykes ,Twine and Atkinson with the unknown wildcard of Mebude, the potential to finish the season strongly and have a great owner in Steve Lansdown who continues to provide financial stability. My glass is half full and I'll fill it up again when it's empty so I'm feeling really positive and won't fill my pants or rupture my spleen when we lose . 7 Quote Link to comment
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: So is this season already over as far as you're concerned? No, I would hope we can move towards 60-65 pts, maybe have a tilt at top 10 with a fair wind top half though if we can hit say 63 pts by end of May is possible. Get a genuine style prepared and embedded for next year. Perhaps patterns of play, partnerships. I just feel that top 6 is unrealistic all in all. 20 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: Too late for this season and we’ll sell our best players this summer, so it’s back around the merry-go-round. No particular need. The risk is of course Conway. Conway aside no real need, but the lack of new contract poses a dilemma. Edited February 12 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment
Rocking Red Cyril Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Yeah strong fit squad is the key. Players still in injury recovery mode and squad coming off a bust schedule with league and cup games. Wonder if we are expecting any body else back from injury or unexpected selections from the array of talent in our youth system ? Marina why the head on hand emoji? Quote Link to comment
Rocking Red Cyril Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: OK? Well.... let me think...... We've got a new Manager who I believe will do well and improve on the work of the previous one, we've made some good signings this season with Knight and Dicky outstanding and McCrorie looking promising, we have a strong defence getting stronger, we already have some potentially exciting young talent for next season, a fantastic stadium where we continue to get great support, top training ground and facilities, several players coming back from injury such as Sykes ,Twine and Atkinson with the unknown wildcard of Mebude, the potential to finish the season strongly and have a great owner in Steve Lansdown who continues to provide financial stability. My glass is half full and I'll fill it up again when it's empty so I'm feeling really positive and won't fill my pants or rupture my spleen when we lose . Any idea when we expect to see Mebude in action ? If you ITK. Quote Link to comment
Malago Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/liam-mannings-southampton-press-conference/ Hopeful that both Twine and Sykes will be involved this week. Quote Link to comment
95red Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 10 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: What you clearly fail to appreciate is that the vast majority of people attending the match are not posters on otib and not prone to the same extreme negativity or "I'm not gonna give my money to Lansdown" or "the season was over in January". With 6 points between us and the top six and 45 points still up for grabs and several players on their way back , this team has everything to play for but, hey, don't let that get in the way of your negative nonsense. Maybe 50 yrs of support up & down the country is taking its toll , yep I'll be there tonight again, unfortunately its more of a meet up with the lads that gets me out than what's being served up on the pitch nowadays!! Quote Link to comment
BigTone Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 14 hours ago, Jerseybean said: It’s on Sky, 8 pm kick off. Will be 23,000 + in attendance with 3,414 in the sold out Saints away end. At the end of November we lost 1-0 at their place, we were beaten by a spectacular strike, early in the second half, from Walker-Peters. It was their first clean sheet at home of the season. At that stage of the season they were 4th and we were 12th. Highlights: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/highlights/extended-highlights-southampton-1-0-bristol-city-2/ City fan Ted Hill enjoyed himself… https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12814183/Bristol-City-fan-TRICKS-Southampton-supporters-thinking-hes-one-players-takes-selfies-signs-shirt.html LM post match: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/liam-manning-reaction/ They were relegated last season after eleven seasons in the top flight finishing bottom with 25 points. Alex Scott, was at one time a member of the Southampton Academy, how they must be kicking themselves now. Well known fans include: Craig David - Singer. Chris Packham - Wildlife TV presenter. David Frost - Legendary TV host, journalist and writer. Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister. Russell Martin was appointed manager in June, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65980277 They went through three managers last season with Ralph Hasenhuttl's replacement Nathan Jones only lasting 95 days before he was sacked in February. Spaniard Selles came in later that month, but could not haul the Saints out of the drop zone. Martin bought in four of his staff from Swansea City, including Matt Gill as his assistant manager, who was in the same role at Swansea. Gill had a long playing career that spanned eight clubs and 353 League games plus another 104 in the National League before going into coaching in 2014 as assistant manager at Tranmere, followed by positions at Norwich, Ipswich and MK Dons where he linked up with Russell Martin again after both had been team mates at Norwich in 2009-11. They appointed Phil Parsons as their chief executive, following the departure of Martin Semmens after their relegation from the Premier League. Parsons joined the club from technology company Dyson, where he spent 15 years in a number of senior leadership roles. In July they signed Republic of Ireland left-back Ryan Manning after his exit from Swansea City. He was the Saints' first signing since their relegation from the Premier League and linked up again with boss Russell Martin, who was his manager at Swansea. The 27-year-old, who was out of contract at Swansea, signed a four-year deal at St Mary's. They signed Manchester City midfielder Shea Charles for an undisclosed fee. The 19-year-old, who has won eight caps for Northern Ireland, signed a four-year deal at St Mary's. Their Croatian defender Duje Caleta-Car joined French Ligue 1 side Olympique Lyonnais on loan and Newcastle signed right-back Tino Livramento in early August, in a deal worth up to £40m. The deal is worth an initial £32m and the 20-year-old Englishman signed a five-year contract. West Ham signed England international James Ward-Prowse from them in mid-August. The 28-year-old joined for an undisclosed fee (thought to be in the region of £30m) on a contract until June 2027. They sold midfielder Romeo Lavia to Chelsea for an initial £53m. They signed West Ham United midfielder Flynn Downes on loan until the end of the season. The 24-year-old has made 35 appearances for the Hammers since joining from Swansea City last summer. Downes also played under Saints boss Russell Martin during his year-long spell with the Swans, scoring one goal in 39 outings for the Welsh club. They secured the loan signing of Everton defender Mason Holgate. On deadline day they signed Ross Stewart on a three-year deal from Sunderland. The Scotland striker, 27, became Saints' eighth signing of the window and followed the earlier deadline day signing of England Under-21 centre-back Taylor Harwood-Bellis. He joined on a season-long loan deal from Manchester City. In January they signed AFC Bournemouth midfielder Joe Rothwell on loan until the end of the season. The 29-year-old, who joined the Cherries from Blackburn Rovers in 2022, had played 11 times in the Premier League this season. They also signed winger David Brooks from Bournemouth on loan until the end of the season. Their MDT: https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/60699-bristol-city-a-tuesday-8pm/ Russell Martin has declared that they will be without injured key midfielder Flynn Downes while Scotland international forward Che Adams is a doubt. LM presser: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/liam-mannings-southampton-press-conference/ and George Tanner’s thoughts: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/tanner-previews-saints-clash/ We have only played Southampton 10 times in the last 44 years. There haven't been too many players that have represented both sides, those who have include Joe Jordan, Russell Osman and Stern John. Even with the benefit of parachute payments lots of people, including Saints fans, thought they would struggle to turn a sinking ship around. Once they recovered from losing James Ward-Prowse, their loanees started to settle and everyone got to grips with Russell Martin's possession-based approach, they have not looked back. They have a lot of quality at this level and no shortage of flair in the final third. The additions of Brooks and the return of Sulemana have made them even stronger in that area. However, an injury on Saturday to the extremely important Flynn Downes could throw a spanner in the works. Seeing as we beat them twice during their last promotion season, the only side to do so, and we lost to a worldie at their place, we might just put an end to their 25 game unbeaten run. Head-to-head record Won: 16 Lost: 26 Drawn: 7 They have been in great recent form setting a new club record having managed a 25 game unbeaten run in all competitions, this Guardian piece relates: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/09/southampton-record-unbeaten-run-russell-martin Currently they are second on 64 points. Officials Referee: Matthew Donohue Assistants: Paul Hodskinson and Matthew McGrath Fourth official: Geof Eltringham Robins Foundation is delighted to host Alright My Liver at Ashton Gate ahead of the game. ‘Alright My Liver’ is a community NHS screening service for people across Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire, led by Bristol and Severn Hepatitis C Operational Delivery Network in collaboration with University Hospitals Bristol and Weston (UHBW) and Southwest Cancer Alliance Group (SWAG). The main causes of liver disease are type 2 diabetes, obesity, viral hepatitis and alcohol excess. Liver disease increases the risk of various complications including liver cancer which can lead to cirrhosis (scarring) of the liver, which can often go undiagnosed for many years before symptoms develop. City supporters are being invited to visit the Foundation’s offices in the South Stand concourse (S25/S26), following a short questionnaire will receive a FibroScan – a quick, non-invasive scan which can rule out or indicate liver cirrhosis. Fans will be in and out of the room within 15 minutes. Condensed Version Southampton: Alex Scott, was at one time a member of the Southampton Academy City win 1-nil COYR 2 Quote Link to comment
sunningdalered Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: No, I would hope we can move towards 60-65 pts, maybe have a tilt at top 10 with a fair wind top half though if we can hit say 63 pts by end of May is possible. Get a genuine style prepared and embedded for next year. Perhaps patterns of play, partnerships. I just feel that top 6 is unrealistic all in all. No particular need. The risk is of course Conway. Conway aside no real need, but the lack of new contract poses a dilemma. IMO the Conway that we have seen to date is eminently replaceable. It's the Conway that he might become that we fear losing. But, then again, we've seen many who never fulfilled their apparent potential. 5 1 Quote Link to comment
redkev Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 45 minutes ago, 95red said: Maybe 50 yrs of support up & down the country is taking its toll , yep I'll be there tonight again, unfortunately its more of a meet up with the lads that gets me out than what's being served up on the pitch nowadays!! 45 minutes ago, 95red said: Maybe 50 yrs of support up & down the country is taking its toll , yep I'll be there tonight again, unfortunately its more of a meet up with the lads that gets me out than what's being served up on the pitch nowadays!! Same amount as me roughly but I would honestly say apart from the cotterill era , bit of Gary Johnson and some Danny wilson this is probably the highest standard consistently we have played at , if you remember we have had some pretty dark days , it’s not great at the moment but I do see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel , 7-1 away to Northampton , 6-1 at home to wolves 5-0 away to Blackpool losing 1-0 at home to palace who were on a 19 game without a win run being totally dominated for a period by the gas oh and yes the cherry on the cake the pulis era , so perhaps things at all bad at the moment . 5 Quote Link to comment
old_eastender Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 21 minutes ago, redkev said: Same amount as me roughly but I would honestly say apart from the cotterill era , bit of Gary Johnson and some Danny wilson this is probably the highest standard consistently we have played at , if you remember we have had some pretty dark days , it’s not great at the moment but I do see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel , 7-1 away to Northampton , 6-1 at home to wolves 5-0 away to Blackpool losing 1-0 at home to palace who were on a 19 game without a win run being totally dominated for a period by the gas oh and yes the cherry on the cake the pulis era , so perhaps things at all bad at the moment . Are you completely forgetting promotion to the old Division 1 and the 2 seasons that followed? That's easily the highest standard we have played at! Although the 'double' wining side under Cotterill was the most enjoyable season in more recent times. Quote Link to comment
ExiledAjax Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 9 hours ago, petehinton said: Really excellent pre match presser with Manning on the clubs YouTube today. Highly recommend Interesting to hear that we did 20 minutes of throw in practice. I had thought I'd noticed a bit of improvement there. We had a thread on here a couple of weeks ago about that. 1 Quote Link to comment
glynriley Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Are you completely forgetting promotion to the old Division 1 and the 2 seasons that followed? That's easily the highest standard we have played at! Although the 'double' wining side under Cotterill was the most enjoyable season in more recent times. Well you’ve completely forgotten 2 of them!! We were there for 4…. Quote Link to comment
IAmNick Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Interesting to hear that we did 20 minutes of throw in practice. I had thought I'd noticed a bit of improvement there. We had a thread on here a couple of weeks ago about that. I know basically nothing about football as will be clear from most of my posts but is 20m a lot? It sounds like basically nothing to me! Edit: haven't listened to the interview yet so if I've missed some context apologies Edited February 13 by IAmNick 2 Quote Link to comment
ExiledAjax Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 26 minutes ago, IAmNick said: I know basically nothing about football as will be clear from most of my posts but is 20m a lot? It sounds like basically nothing to me! Edit: haven't listened to the interview yet so if I've missed some context apologies You've not missed much context. It's just right at the end. I agree it doesn't sound like very long at all. However I guess, and it is a guess, that throw ins are one of those skills that footballers learn when they're 9 and then never practice, and actually 20 minutes of just correcting bad habits and reminding people of the purpose is quite helpful. 20 minutes won't do as much as an hour might, but if it's something different in training then maybe it's fun for the players? In the discussion I mentioned I asked if it would be worth the time and effort required to train them. Seems like it wasn't as much time as I thought might be needed. All I can compare it to personally is how having a 30 minute golf lesson can do wonders for your swing. Edited February 13 by ExiledAjax Quote Link to comment
Son of Fred Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 9 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Any idea when we expect to see Mebude in action ? If you ITK. I'd imagine his first exposure will be late on if we are chasing the game. 1 Quote Link to comment
IAmNick Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 10 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: You've not missed much context. It's just right at the end. I agree it doesn't sound like very long at all. However I guess, and it is a guess, that throw ins are one of those skills that footballers learn when they're 9 and then never practice, and actually 20 minutes of just correcting bad habits and reminding people of the purpose is quite helpful. 20 minutes won't do as much as an hour might, but if it's something different in training then maybe it's fun for the players? In the discussion I mentioned I asked if it would be worth the time and effort required to train them. Seems like it wasn't as much time as I thought might be needed. Yeah - I guess there's a difference between refreshing technique and removing bad habits, as opposed to actually training patterns and so on which would take more time. Any time spent can't be a bad thing as they're pretty woeful at the moment. 11 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: All I can compare it to personally is how having a 30 minute golf lesson can do wonders for your swing. Speak for yourself! 1 1 Quote Link to comment
paignton red Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 20 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Yeah - I guess there's a difference between refreshing technique and removing bad habits, as opposed to actually training patterns and so on which would take more time. Any time spent can't be a bad thing as they're pretty woeful at the moment. Speak for yourself! My handicap at golf was just turning up !! 2 Quote Link to comment
cidered abroad Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: Are you completely forgetting promotion to the old Division 1 and the 2 seasons that followed? That's easily the highest standard we have played at! Although the 'double' wining side under Cotterill was the most enjoyable season in more recent times. I know one or two enjoyed a drink or three. But didn't realise that there were those players who had a bit more class. Was it red, white or sparkling wining? Edited February 13 by cidered abroad Quote Link to comment
pillred Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, redkev said: Same amount as me roughly but I would honestly say apart from the cotterill era , bit of Gary Johnson and some Danny wilson this is probably the highest standard consistently we have played at , if you remember we have had some pretty dark days , it’s not great at the moment but I do see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel , 7-1 away to Northampton , 6-1 at home to wolves 5-0 away to Blackpool losing 1-0 at home to palace who were on a 19 game without a win run being totally dominated for a period by the gas oh and yes the cherry on the cake the pulis era , so perhaps things at all bad at the moment . How could you forget "O" Dismal :laugh:. Quote Link to comment
Open End Numb Legs Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: Interesting to hear that we did 20 minutes of throw in practice. I had thought I'd noticed a bit of improvement there. We had a thread on here a couple of weeks ago about that. Nice to see the coaches taking note of our knowledge. You're welcome Liam . Hopefully the Leeds performance has been put to rest since then, the win at Boro must have given the squad a lot of confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment
cidered abroad Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: All I can compare it to personally is how having a 30 minute golf lesson can do wonders for your swing. Wearing loose underpants instead of y fronts can work wonders on swing improvement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
ExiledAjax Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Wearing loose underpants instead of y fronts can work wonders on swing improvement. It's all in the hips isn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment
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