NickJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 26/02/2024 at 19:04, Bat Fastard said: I believe that Steve, Jon and the FD are all chartered accountants. Nigel and his two coached departed as well as Rennie. Given where Rennie had moved from, I doubt if he was cheap and Nige would have been paid according to his status as a senior manager brought in to do a difficult job. Their replacements were a lower league manager and his coaching buddy. Now, I think it seems to fit that 4 expensive types out and two cheaper types in, seems to suggest that economies were part of the agenda. The three accountants did not seem to weigh the importance of experience of the sort they lost when Nigel departed. Maybe you think that Manning and Hogg were more expensive in which case, if you are right, then I would be shocked and surprised. I’m a CA and I’d be surprised if Jon is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 25 minutes ago, NickJ said: I’m a CA and I’d be surprised if Jon is You're right Qualifications, according to a bit of Googling 2002 - 2005 Bachelor of Science (BS) in Economics and Management @ University of Southampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 9 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: You're right Qualifications, according to a bit of Googling 2002 - 2005 Bachelor of Science (BS) in Economics and Management @ University of Southampton. Shouldnt that be a BSc ? Or is it more BS ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben1980 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Hard to say it but I’m almost at the point that I hope we lose matches so the inevitable conclusion (Tinnion getting sacked) is expedited. No big problem with Manning- feel sorry for him tbh. Haven’t felt that way since the latter stages of when Holden was manger or before that Tinnion. Knew the 7-1 v Swansea would finish him so the cloud had a silver lining. Edited February 27 by Ben1980 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben1980 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, Ben1980 said: Hard to say it but I’m almost at the point that I hope we lose matches so the inevitable conclusion (Tinnion getting sacked) is expedited. No big problem with Manning- feel sorry for him tbh. Haven’t felt that way since Holden was manger or before that Tinnion. Knew the 7-1 v Swansea would finish him so the cloud had a silver lining. Not v Cardiff though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 48 minutes ago, Natchfever said: Shouldnt that be a BSc ? Or is it more BS ? Probably, good point. But I just did a lazy copy and paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 GJ lost 6-1 at home to Cardiff and still didn't get sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollsRoyce Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, myol'man said: GJ lost 6-1 at home to Cardiff and still didn't get sacked. I don't think Manning (or anyone) would have that luxury again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, myol'man said: GJ lost 6-1 at home to Cardiff and still didn't get sacked. Let's face it, if he hadn't lamped a player he would still be here. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 15 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: Probably, good point. But I just did a lazy copy and paste. I was being playful in view of all the BS emanating from the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Natchfever said: I was being playful in view of all the BS emanating from the club Indeed, the irony was not lost on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 13 hours ago, Superjack said: Let's face it, if he hadn't lamped a player he would still be here. Interesting isn't it, I know a few people who were there and they all agreed that if they had known what was happening, they would have gone and helped him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 15 hours ago, Superjack said: Let's face it, if he hadn't lamped a player he would still be here. allegedly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 39 minutes ago, myol'man said: allegedly Yes, sorry. He left because he 'allegedly' lamped a player. Would Tinnion do that, do you think?... Edited February 28 by Superjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Superjack said: Yes, sorry. He left because he 'allegedly' lamped a player. Would Tinnion do that, do you think?... I think its more likely that Tinnion would be reporting to the bosses who lamped the player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 27/02/2024 at 14:42, robinforlife2 said: Pearson's sacking was nothing to do with money. The club simply didn't like that he was more respected than them, in certain elements of the supporter base, and when things weren't going well for him, he went public to keep the fans on his side. The second he done this, there is no way the club would sit there and stand for it. Pearson was not sacked for football or financial reasons! It was because those running the club simply didn't like him, his approach or his popularity. The day he questioned Jon Lansdown's ambition, was the day he secured his P45. The new appointments are definitely all on Tinnion, but I don't think he was behind NP's sacking, he secured that all by himself. If i was a billionaire in the public eye, I wouldn’t put up with it either,,, its clear to me that pearson wasnt well liked, and that played a significant role in him getting sacked, and being sat in midtable was a good enough excuse to do it. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) The GJ sacking I was away from Bristol at the time, got to a few games a season and saw some TV games obviously. Clearly this NP one is the worst but GJ. Was it widely seen as positive, run his course? Were there chants at games for his departure or not really? I also appreciate things run their course and Coppell did seem a go for it now candidate.. ...Sadly he went for it early, the exit door! Edited February 28 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I think its more likely that Tinnion would be reporting to the bosses who lamped the player Yes. Well,he is 'allegedly' a coward*. So I think that you are right. *'Alleged' by me for a start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I also appreciate things run their course and Coppell did seem a go for it now candidate.. ...Sadly he went for it early, the exit door! Says everything about NP imo that he didn't do the same. He said when he came in, something along the lines that it was a 'strangely run club'. I think he saw what Coppell saw. A mark of the man (imo) that he stuck it out and tried to help us. As far as I am concerned the 'club apologists' can **** off. It's clear to see over the Lansdowns history who was in the right. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Superjack said: Says everything about NP imo that he didn't do the same. He said when he came in, something along the lines that it was a 'strangely run club'. I think he saw what Coppell saw. A mark of the man (imo) that he stuck it out and tried to help us. As far as I am concerned the 'club apologists' can **** off. It's clear to see over the Lansdowns history who was in the right. Agreed. Feel we made a significant strategic error, as you say he could have taken one look (though tbh him and Gould worked well) but one look at some of our structural shortcomings but no he seemed to be enjoying and relishing the challenge. I hope for the best but feel we are strategically worse off post NP. A man of real integrity. I remember that comment and correctly labelling the sell to speculate as bonkers but he still toughed it out and improved us. When I say post NP, I don't mean after his input I mean the decision to replace weakens us. Edited February 28 by Mr Popodopolous 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: The GJ sacking I was away from Bristol at the time, got to a few games a season and saw some TV games obviously. Clearly this NP one is the worst but GJ. Was it widely seen as positive, run his course? Were there chants at games for his departure or not really? I also appreciate things run their course and Coppell did seem a go for it now candidate.. ...Sadly he went for it early, the exit door! It did feel he'd ran out of gas. I liked him immensely & we could so easily have beaten Hull in the final. Sadly the more players he was allowed to buy, the worse we became. I think his brother was the full extent of the scouting team! Our purchases from Solvakia & Costa Rica were somewhat disappointing but the latter had locks to rival Russell Martin! None of it mattered as we appointed Steve Coppell & the rest is history..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TDarwall said: It did feel he'd ran out of gas. I liked him immensely & we could so easily have beaten Hull in the final. Sadly the more players he was allowed to buy, the worse we became. I think his brother was the full extent of the scouting team! Our purchases from Solvakia & Costa Rica were somewhat disappointing but the latter had locks to rival Russell Martin! None of it mattered as we appointed Steve Coppell & the rest is history..... Did we always use and like I say I was in and out but did we always use some of them in the best way? I'm thinking it had potential to be quite flowing at times especially at that time with a front 3 including Sabario and Maynard and a midfield 3 containing Sno and Hartley. Quite fluid too.Elliott at his best was like 2 midfielders so he could have provided a lot. Hartley deeper lying, spraying it around, technically fine and more mobile, Elliott with his energy and intensity. Maynard pre injury between his first few months and the end of 2009-10 well..some of the goals especially that he created himself some videos on YouTube for a good 5-10 of fond memories. Edited February 28 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 27 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Did we always use and like I say I was in and out but did we always use some of them in the best way? I'm thinking it had potential to be quite flowing at times especially at that time with a front 3 including Sabario and Maynard and a midfield 3 containing Sno and Hartley. Quite fluid too.Elliott at his best was like 2 midfielders so he could have provided a lot. Hartley deeper lying, spraying it around, technically fine and more mobile, Elliott with his energy and intensity. Maynard pre injury between his first few months and the end of 2009-10 well..some of the goals especially that he created himself some videos on YouTube for a good 5-10 of fond memories. In terms of personnel, I actually thought that GJ made, on the whole, very good signings for us (obvs a few duds... Bas Savage??? ... and the striker that was a left back). My biggest gripe was the lack of use of David Noble. Yes, he may have had his off field demons, but he was by far the best player for talent in the squad in all the time he was here. Sadly, most of us know that his non-selection was nothing to do with his life away from the pitch. But that has been done to death, and I certainly don't wish to derail this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, Superjack said: In terms of personnel, I actually thought that GJ made, on the whole, very good signings for us (obvs a few duds... Bas Savage??? ... and the striker that was a left back). My biggest gripe was the lack of use of David Noble. Yes, he may have had his off field demons, but he was by far the best player for talent in the squad in all the time he was here. Sadly, most of us know that his non-selection was nothing to do with his life away from the pitch. But that has been done to death, and I certainly don't wish to derail this thread. Ah Noble..yes like you won't derail, when he was good though he offered a way to play him as the advanced behind the striker, morphing between a 4-3-3/4-5-1 and 4-4-1-1. Decent hit rate for sure. Anyway yes let's stick to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Superjack said: In terms of personnel, I actually thought that GJ made, on the whole, very good signings for us (obvs a few duds... Bas Savage??? ... and the striker that was a left back). My biggest gripe was the lack of use of David Noble. Yes, he may have had his off field demons, but he was by far the best player for talent in the squad in all the time he was here. Sadly, most of us know that his non-selection was nothing to do with his life away from the pitch. But that has been done to death, and I certainly don't wish to derail this thread. I’ll derail It because the 2 things that really piss me off over the last 20 years are the nepotism when the manager played his son ahead of infinitely better players, and the nepotism when the owner found a way to sack the most successful manager he’d ever had in order to appoint his “son” Edited February 28 by NickJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 7 minutes ago, NickJ said: I’ll derail It because the 2 things that really piss me off over the last 20 years are the nepotism when the manager played his son ahead of infinitely better players, and the nepotism when the owner found a way to sack the most successful manager he’d ever had in order to appoint his “son” Absolutely agree. But I still don't want this thread derailed for good reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Superjack said: Absolutely agree. But I still don't want this thread derailed for good reason. Fair enough but it’s all part of the same underlying issue isn’t it and of course I haven’t even mentioned maybe the worst of the lot the nepotism of the owner making a complete clown in charge of the major decision making process. In what other world would the owner of a Championship club: Allow the manager to consistently play his son ahead of better players Appoint a nobody as manager in preference to a proven winner Appoint a dimwit as Chairman and Managing Director Promote somebody with such little credibility (pains me to say it because that aside he is still a playing hero to me despite what is being said about him on here) to such an influential position. So yes in a way this thread as should all others be derailed to highlight the underlying cause of the idiotic way in which the football club is run 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Bump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 A Technical Director who played majority of football at that level with us along with managing unsuccessfully at that level and rooting us to the bottom upon exit. Add a recruitment strategy linked to lower leagues only, when players like Chris Martin are leading the way at that level, it’s shows the gap in quality. Finally, a manager whose success at that level is losing to Wycombe in a play off, I think we can see where this is going if we are not careful 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leabrook Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 The amount of time people spend worrying about relegation is mind boggling! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, Leabrook said: The amount of time people spend worrying about relegation is mind boggling! Maybe not this season but ShaunTaylor is right. If League one is your mentality then that's where you will end up. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Funny how we were heading in the right direction with ex Premier League manager, players and PL winners. Better to have a Premier League mindset than League One. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben1980 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Could be some interesting symmetry as to how this all ends- Binman crying in the director’s box (rather than the bench) after a mauling? Wouldn’t bet against it would you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Ben1980 said: Could be some interesting symmetry as to how this all ends- Binman crying in the director’s box (rather than the bench) after a mauling? Wouldn’t bet against it would you. Unfortunately Ben, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Ben1980 said: Could be some interesting symmetry as to how this all ends- Binman crying in the director’s box (rather than the bench) after a mauling? Wouldn’t bet against it would you. Well we did sack our last manager after playing Cardiff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Well we did sack our last manager after playing Cardiff. LJ too, not that it would happen whatever the score is tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Don't want to piss people off, so I won't keep doing this. But... bump. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Tinnion's going nowhere of his own accord. The only way he goes is if his mate Jon gets the boot. And what's the chances of that happening! I don't want Manning to go untill those two are completely out of our club, for fear of who they would choose next. What a mess! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) On 01/03/2024 at 09:40, Ben1980 said: Could be some interesting symmetry as to how this all ends- Binman crying in the director’s box (rather than the bench) after a mauling? Wouldn’t bet against it would you. www.otib.co.uk/topic/45913-anyone-seen-tinnion you werent red alex by any chance in 2005? dont know why the link dont work by try copy paste. works for me Edited March 2 by redsquirrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Erm. Is it just me or are things - unusually for OTIB - getting a little hysterical on here? Had an excellent game against Soton and decent performances against Premier League opposition in the Cup. So we can’t be that far off. Yes, followed by absolute tripe against two teams fighting for their lives, but some perspective maybe? It is indeed frustrating that we have to watch Anis and Harry be given second, third, fourth chances and predictably not taking them. The January transfer window yet again doing nothing to improve us, Tommy’s performance curve flattening out and TGH being anonymous but let’s get to the International Break before we start pressing the panic-manic button. A win today, point at Ipswich and victories against Swansea and West Brom will do nicely. Yours Optimistically. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 13 minutes ago, RedRock said: Erm. Is it just me or are things - unusually for OTIB - getting a little hysterical on here? Had an excellent game against Soton and decent performances against Premier League opposition in the Cup. So we can’t be that far off. Yes, followed by absolute tripe against two teams fighting for their lives, but some perspective maybe? It is indeed frustrating that we have to watch Anis and Harry be given second, third, fourth chances and predictably not taking them. The January transfer window yet again doing nothing to improve us, Tommy’s performance curve flattening out and TGH being anonymous but let’s get to the International Break before we start pressing the panic-manic button. A win today, point at Ipswich and victories against Swansea and West Brom will do nicely. Yours Optimistically. yes,you are quite right. wish i could scrape up your optimism tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben1980 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, redsquirrel said: www.otib.co.uk/topic/45913-anyone-seen-tinnion you werent red alex by any chance in 2005? dont know why the link dont work by try copy paste. works for me Nope not me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, RedRock said: Erm. Is it just me or are things - unusually for OTIB - getting a little hysterical on here? Had an excellent game against Soton and decent performances against Premier League opposition in the Cup. So we can’t be that far off. Yes, followed by absolute tripe against two teams fighting for their lives, but some perspective maybe? It is indeed frustrating that we have to watch Anis and Harry be given second, third, fourth chances and predictably not taking them. The January transfer window yet again doing nothing to improve us, Tommy’s performance curve flattening out and TGH being anonymous but let’s get to the International Break before we start pressing the panic-manic button. A win today, point at Ipswich and victories against Swansea and West Brom will do nicely. Yours Optimistically. This is why supporting this club made me a pessimist. Just better for my sanity, to be honest. On a similar vein, Monsieur can't spell can toddle of into the sunset, the snake. Anyone involved in the scheme or the decision to get NP sacked as well. JL for enabling it, etc. That is all. We just want someone competent running the show. Step back and let them get on with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 The worst thing is that cheeky Geordie fooker claimed that the fans were enjoying the improved football the other week….. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Can’t the main thread be changed to the actual name so we can see all in glory the person who needs to leave this club again! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh II Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 He's a bit thick in the head. Time to kick him and Manning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 be good if he had the balls to stand up and do a presser ,explain what the hell is going on. its his responsibility ,not mannings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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