The End of the Beginning and the Beginning of the end

[Silvio Dante]

Well, with Ian Gay stating (assumedly through Tinnion) that Liam has 8 games to save his job, I think we can reasonably say we’re nearing endgame. A couple of weeks ago I was of the mind to give Liam until the end of the season and see if we continually improved in a few key areas (game management, speed of play, bravery) - but we’ve regressed and I think the ship has now sailed.

What we can glean is that those above Liam (assuming SL) aren’t happy with what’s gone before, and we know wins of the nature of Swansea won’t butter any parsnips.

So, in those 8 games somehow Liam needs to markedly improve results (probably to playoff form) and performance not to get the sack. I don’t think that’s happening - and the way we’re setting up even if we meet point one we’re not getting point two.

It’s the end of the beginning and the beginning of the end. I’ve got no real doubt he won’t be here at the start of the season considering what he’ll need to do. It’s probably done in the next 3 games in practical terms.

And for avoidance of doubt, there is no way Tinnion should then be caretaker and he should be getting the archer as well.

[AppyDAZE]

I never need much of an excuse to put this beauty on.

Some great, apt lyrics.

[ohhhshauntaylor]

13 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Well, with Ian Gay stating (assumedly through Tinnion) that Liam has 8 games to save his job, I think we can reasonably say we’re nearing endgame. A couple of weeks ago I was of the mind to give Liam until the end of the season and see if we continually improved in a few key areas (game management, speed of play, bravery) - but we’ve regressed and I think the ship has now sailed.

What we can glean is that those above Liam (assuming SL) aren’t happy with what’s gone before, and we know wins of the nature of Swansea won’t butter any parsnips.

So, in those 8 games somehow Liam needs to markedly improve results (probably to playoff form) and performance not to get the sack. I don’t think that’s happening - and the way we’re setting up even if we meet point one we’re not getting point two.

It’s the end of the beginning and the beginning of the end. I’ve got no real doubt he won’t be here at the start of the season considering what he’ll need to do. It’s probably done in the next 3 games in practical terms.

And for avoidance of doubt, there is no way Tinnion should then be caretaker and he should be getting the archer as well.

Where has Ian “leaked” this. I see his tweets are protected again but haven’t seen what he said. 

 

In relation to it, 8 games are pointless, we’ve seen 24 of them under LM to know what we’re getting/going to get- do it now IMO! 

[Superjack]

3 minutes ago, ohhhshauntaylor said:

Where has Ian “leaked” this. I see his tweets are protected again but haven’t seen what he said. 

 

In relation to it, 8 games are pointless, we’ve seen 24 of them under LM to know what we’re getting/going to get- do it now IMO! 

If it's Tinnion until the end of the season it makes no difference. 

[Mendip City]

6 minutes ago, ohhhshauntaylor said:

Where has Ian “leaked” this. I see his tweets are protected again but haven’t seen what he said. 

 

In relation to it, 8 games are pointless, we’ve seen 24 of them under LM to know what we’re getting/going to get- do it now IMO! 

Exactly. They are eight games someone else could be overseeing and breathing some life back into the place. 

[Superjack]

5 minutes ago, Mendip City said:

Exactly. They are eight games someone else could be overseeing and breathing some life back into the place. 

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

[Barrs Court Red]

1 minute ago, Superjack said:

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

That will not go well for all involved. 

[ohhhshauntaylor]

Just now, Superjack said:

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

Peak City would be this-

Tinnion takes over “until the end of the season”

We go on a decent run, 5 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat. 
 

we appoint Tinnion to a 3 year deal, Jon says “judge me on tinnion” 

 

We sign Grant Smith and Matt Heywood in the summer, and then by October Gary Johnson is appointed manager. 

[Banjo Island]

1 minute ago, Superjack said:

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

And appoint downsy

[Superjack]

Just now, Barrs Court Red said:

That will not go well for all involved. 

Nope. It won't. 

 

 

 

 

But they'll do it.

[robin_unreliant]

Maybe if it's true Manning will stop playing not to lose and actually try to go for it. Might as well go down fighting. Maybe not, just wishful thinking that we might get some entertainment.

[Show Me The Money!]

2 minutes ago, Superjack said:

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

Before appointing Tinnion 

[Nomad]

5 minutes ago, Superjack said:

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

If they do that it'll be Chris Hogg taking the reigns.....

[Mendip City]

Just now, Nomad said:

If they do that it'll be Chris Hogg taking the reigns.....

Outstanding human being 

[Mendip City]

2 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said:

Before appointing Tinnion 

Worryingly you couldn’t rule that out. 
Nor could you rule out a pair of Johnsons… 

Maybe all of them as a dream team. 

[glynriley]

2 minutes ago, Nomad said:

If they do that it'll be Chris Hogg taking the reins.....

Boss Hogg

[Slack]

Only frustrating thing is what the hell is that going to do for Liam finding out or being told he has 8 games ?! Either sack or back the bloke don't do this whole limbo thing .. not good for players nor staff, I feel for him but as JP said it's the way this has been set up.. was doomed to fail

 

[Sleepy1968]

8 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Boss Hogg

There's an opening for a joke involving Daisy Duke here.

Edited March 18 by Sleepy1968

[AppyDAZE]

17 minutes ago, Superjack said:

It'll be Tinnion until the season's end while they conduct a 'rigourous process'.

7-1 says that ain't happening

[Shauntaylor85]

51 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Well, with Ian Gay stating (assumedly through Tinnion) that Liam has 8 games to save his job, I think we can reasonably say we’re nearing endgame. A couple of weeks ago I was of the mind to give Liam until the end of the season and see if we continually improved in a few key areas (game management, speed of play, bravery) - but we’ve regressed and I think the ship has now sailed.

What we can glean is that those above Liam (assuming SL) aren’t happy with what’s gone before, and we know wins of the nature of Swansea won’t butter any parsnips.

So, in those 8 games somehow Liam needs to markedly improve results (probably to playoff form) and performance not to get the sack. I don’t think that’s happening - and the way we’re setting up even if we meet point one we’re not getting point two.

It’s the end of the beginning and the beginning of the end. I’ve got no real doubt he won’t be here at the start of the season considering what he’ll need to do. It’s probably done in the next 3 games in practical terms.

And for avoidance of doubt, there is no way Tinnion should then be caretaker and he should be getting the archer as well.

Maybe this was Tinnion’s grand plan all along…..return to the hot seat. 

[Ashton Fete]

I think it’s game by game at the minute but you’re totally right. It’s a case of when not if.

Which then brings us to whose next…

[Jimmo]

If he does get the boot this season, the Tinman interview that follows will be quite something, even for his standards.

[Street red]

2 minutes ago, Ashton Fete said:

I think it’s game by game at the minute but you’re totally right. It’s a case of when not if.

Which then brings us to whose next…

Jon Lansdown

[Sea Basso]

Sorry if this is a stupid question (I’m new here but been stalking the forums for a while without an account) but who is Ian Gay and why do people think he has inside info? Heard his comment on SOTC and didn’t know if it was just his own opinion 

[Kid in the Riot]

We seem to have gone from Ian Gay makes everything up and chats shit, to hanging on the bloke's every word. 

I'd wager he knows nothing more than the rest of us regards Manning's future.

It's not exactly difficult to work out Manning needs results, and fast.

[bcfcredandwhite]

38 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said:

Before appointing Tinnion 

This - is the only reason I want LM given more time. 
I’m not happy with things at the club -  either on nor off the field, but replacing Liam with another Jon Lansdown appointment - or Tinnion - is scarier to me than hoping LM can turn things around. 

[Riaz]

If they sack Manning, JL HAS to take accountability too. He made a big (awful) decision to sack a good manager. JL literally derailed our season. 

[Graham76]

You can bet your bottom dollar Tinnion is already in the ear of Jon Lansdown throwing Manning under the bus.  

[Mr Popodopolous]

Tinnion, Jon Lansdown should be out or redeployed come what may. Without a fit for purpose structure you won't progress behind a certain point without a lot of luck.

(Nottingham Forest seem a shambles but progressed despite this but got some huge fortune with officiating 2 years ago).

You never know, something may click in the last 8 but really all 3 out or the first 2 redeployed and Manning out.

[Taz]

14 minutes ago, Sea Basso said:

Sorry if this is a stupid question (I’m new here but been stalking the forums for a while without an account) but who is Ian Gay and why do people think he has inside info? Heard his comment on SOTC and didn’t know if it was just his own opinion 

Ian used to post on here many years ago, and his opinion was fact, and the only one that mattered. Even if you had evidence showing him he was wrong, he'd still be right in his own little world. 

He was very good at stating he had inside information, but in fact it was usually just stating the bleedin' obvious. A bit like stating that Manning has to start showing something over the next x amount of games or he'll be given the boot. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

Ian Gay loves Ian Gay, and is his own biggest fan. I once stated that he could start an argument in an empty room, and I stand by that.

He probably (still) knows just about as much as me or you. He just gets himself a lot of airtime and makes it sound like he knows what he's talking about. I wonder if he's started going to games in recent years....