Sheltons Army

Technical Ability ? Pace ? Or just a lump ?

And exactly what do you mean by .......‘more powerful’......

It’s you having a girly tantrum because your nonsense was challenged Hilarious ’love the attention’ ..... yes 56000 posts is absolute proof you do

Was one of the major reasons we bumbled and fumbled under Wonderboy Should have traded after 12 months

Wrong again eh .... Must be the distress over Klopp ‘stonewall’ #Clueless

So having your claim on Pring put into context Youve now resorted to suggesting Pearson didn’t have much to do with Scott At learnt you are consistent ...... in your take / push .....on everything manager wise

They were so lucky that ‘Stonewall penalty’ wasn’t given

I know his appearance on Mastermind was embarrassing but is he really that thick , clearly so Deeney said he would hit him "if you weren't the fourth official" before being sent off. The ex-Watford striker admitted to using the words but denied that his behaviour or language were threatening.

Are you having a laugh

Wow , some of our fans need some strong glasses , or to take off their ridiculously rose tinted ones Quite bizarre comments

If you are referring to the one in the first half he planted his hand in Forest Players face , a hand off So correct decision

Can’t remember who the lower league manager was , who was on radio the other day , but he knew of a very ill lady who was a massive Liverpool fan and idolised Klopp Said he got hold of Klopps number through the LMA and rang Klopp ..... said he would be delighted to help give her a boost Klopp was on the phone within minutes later To the said lady Class Think the guys a fascinating personality , very likeable and an excellent coach and manager who has brought something very good for English Football (His autobiography is very interesting)

The microwave is being refurbished (Somebody has to go to Argos) as pointed out in the OP Barrs

saw this on the Forest Forum - Don’t know whether it’s a help for anyone

At the time we sold Carl Shutt (Mixed opinions on him amongst our fans but I really liked him) and replaced him with an unknown Bob Taylor from Leeds Utd reserves , I don’t recall too many of us being very enamoured !

‘ The Owners Son is pulling all the strings - its almost as if Daddy has bought him a play thing and he is clueless , arrogant and rude to the staff - I am told from an absolute nailed on source that morale is very very low around the club ‘ Blimey , now I thought this was somebody talking about ‘Our Jon’ , .....until I came to the word arrogant and rude , I don’t think anyone could accuse him of being , even close to arrogant or rude , as far as I’ve seen And at least ‘Our Jon’ has at least some experience in what is involved , and a Father who certainly has , whatever their decision making , and a father who actually is a billionaire If what that SAG claims is true ....... good luck ! ...... Car crash en route

Everything I heard during his time here was the enormous influence he had off the pitch (Bloody excellent on it too) , the leadership , ensuring standards ,and being a , or the major factor for the team social interaction that created that incredible bond , that was developed amongst that squad. Absolutely Top Top Bloke for me Ticked every box you’d hope for in a City player

Yes , I can see released U23 Premier League type signings or younger OOC Theres definitely a market but one of the reasons I like and always have hope in the Murray and Stokes type signings* , is that without a long academy grooming they’re out in men’s football , albeit at lower levels ,and showcasing themselves with natural talent From the glimpses we’ve had they clearly both have something about them , and natural ability ,and hunger which are always a great start Theres always a chance of finding a real diamond , actually , probably more so than an academy groomed * Accepting we may have to wait 12-18 , months for any first team showings and tbf to LM / BT can’t be categorised as first team recruitment - but something quite exciting to watch out for

As a side note I like the Murphy & Stokes signings , and that strategy of trying to get ahead of the game and picking the apples just before they ripen so to speak Not all will work out , (and accepting the OOC market is a very important pond now )but in comparison to fees for established Championship players they are in relative terms ‘cheap punts, and quite likely to pick us up a fee even if they don’t force their way through here. I really like these type of signings , The profiles look good and not far off a no lose ‘gamble’

I’m glad in a number of ways Dave that we didn’t fork out the asking price for Twine It gives LM a chance to have a good look at him at Championship Level and I hope he puts existing views somewhat to one side and makes a good honest assessment of Twines suitability for us and what he wants and the level he wants. There is no doubt he brings something different and his good relationship with LM should give him a decent chance to show what he can provide But I really hope LM is honest in his updated assessment , very focused ,before we consider what fee we would be willing to pay. Ultimately , If he’s keen to get him here permanently, which tbh , everything looks that way , then it will be interesting to see how we play our hand in the summer

If I’m understanding what you are saying Neil , that in essence JL and BT didn’t understand LMs , playing philosophies , how rigid he was in them , or what requirements he would need in types of player profile etc Well........ I know not many rate the hierarchy at the moment but that would be simply brain numbingly stupid - beyond comprehension One , of the first , surely the first , questions to LM when meeting surely had to be about his playing ethos , and the current squad with a view to what if any trading would be required , the feasability , and the cost If not the JL and BT need to get a job at Burger King Assuming that they really aren’t that ridiculously stupid one can only assume that unless LM wasn’t fully honest at that time (Which I find exteremely unlikely) they’ve supported and accepted LMs ideas and will now have to back him in terms of squad overhaul to whatever degree. I think the ins and outs in the next two windows will be very very revealing for lots of reasons and reveal more about LM , JL & BT Let’s hope the plan is good and is executed well Recruitment always massively significant in terms of progress but they’ve picked their man , and now have to back him - they’ve put a lot of faith in him , and pressure on him They need to get recruitment spot on for , (and with) him Theres a ride coming ......

a fair q Firstly I’ve put my thoughts on anyone using stats at this time is pointless IMO None of us have to look too far or look up any fractions of stats to make an initial view that LMs appointment has for most I would think pretty ‘neutral’ in various areas , with lots to unravel You don’t strike me as someone that sees marginal fractions in stats as significant but primarily rely on what you are seeing , watching , over a gradual unraveling and period of games Btw I didn’t reply/ quote in my first post about this to anyone , but , being honest , your repeated ‘ I liked Nige’ whilst constantly overtly promoting LM v NP I thought was disingenuous

id suggest to anyone quoting fractions of stats , over 6 or 7 games and coming to any form of finding , it’s pretty strange , especially for someone who has watched so much football The claim that home form has improved , off the stats you quoted , I find quite strange , and the same for anyone quoting such fractions in reverse to claim the opposite. The desperation amongst fans to prove that Manning is ‘better’ than NP , or the reverse , is , in the extent it’s happening , well , bizarre We will see in good time what Liam Manning is or isn’t . I won’t be comparing the outcome to NP’s tenure as quite simply we won’t be comparing apples with apples For me LM will get judged on what LM produces , with any resources he has or gets , and not over a handful of games I know you’ve made a point of stating numerous times how you ‘Liked Nige’ But sorry and for what it’s worth I don’t , and havn’t ever had any vibe , or have read anything , that suggests that to be the case , and if the stats you quoted had been fractionally positive in NPs favour I don’t think you would have done so. Everyone free to have their opinion on NP , or whoever , but at least be honest about it

Some desperate clinging onto marginal stats in minimal amount of time period , in an attempt to prove points , (or agendas) on here

You missed the excellent playing career , winning L1 , The Championship and the Premier League...... The International Caps ....... The comments from some of the younger players over the last couple of seasons as to how much of a help.... Missed all those things ....did you..... As always , jumping early on even the slightest bit of debate or (perceived) criticism of the club or the hierarchy As for my assessment of King - I couldn’t care less whether Johnson , Holden , Pearson or Manning had brought Andy King into the club - it’s about what Andy King brings So predictable and narrow