Sheltons Army

3 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

Do you want him sacked ?

At this moment no

But alarm bells ringing and definitely a decision to be made in the last gasps of the season with regards to the summer window and next season

Needs to be far more positive indicators for me by then

24 minutes ago, Henry said:

The trouble is, do the Lansdown then give the same amount of money to another employee who needs help? Eg a tea lady who’s worked there for 20 years.

Surely one of the benefits of wealth is the ability to help others less fortunate or in a difficult situation 

An individuals choice of course and aim pretty sure SL will have been pretty charitable in chosen areas over the years

Personally , Scott M or the tea lady of 20yrs with a difficult situation - good loyal employees and good people - I absolutely would

4 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

There’s a difference between that and WANTING him to fail 

The ‘Wanting him to fail’ claims are complete fiction and nonsense

Made up and used  in some weird desperate deflection from those who were NP critics and wanted change

Good to know that you don’t want him to fail but want him sacked right now though

29 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

Nobody has said it is positive. It has been argued it’s not huge regression.  Even the complete Manning haters can’t believe it’s huge regression really.  Pearson was a father figure to some fans who maybe need one.  Manning isn’t. But going over the top wiry criticism isn’t necessary 

Uhmmmm

You wanted him sacked Immediately the other day 

On 03/03/2024 at 00:19, Leabrook said:

People have called me a Bristol sport employee just because I didn’t rate Pearson has highly as others!

Manning tipped me over the edge today. He’s got to go now 

Well done lads

Getting to semi finals is a decent achievement in itself 

14 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Who exactly are the “anti-Pearson screamers”, SA?

Given recent comments you’ve made, maybe you have me down as one? And if that’s the case then - as I’ve said to you several times - you have that completely wrong.

If not, who?

I honestly can’t recall any sort of concerted anti NP sentiment last year, and certainly no concerted campaign calling for his departure.

Ive just had a quick  look back at the last two matchday threads of NPs tenure. Both defeats. I thought maybe I’d forgotten something. But, no, no sort of campaign at all - quite the opposite in fact. And, as far as I could see, not a single post calling for him to be sacked.

I just wonder whether these ‘screamers’ exist in the same place as Bristol Sport employees?! 

No I don’t have you anywhere near an anti Pearson screamer or massive critic

And you completely misread or have comprehended what I’ve said to you

You were noticeably extremely supportive of LJ and defended him throughout even when it was clear what was festering

(Personally I’m  not into blind faith or let’s just ‘hope’)

You are pretty quick to make snipes at or get restless about critics of LM , or considered and explained criticism of him , and appear pretty keen to defend him

I may of course , have simply missed any sort of similar supportive  posts of Pearson when he was here 

As for the screamers (Maybe whiners would have been better) who wanted him out - there were , and are many (Including some who now want Manning out amusingly) If you haven’t noticed them , then you aren’t looking too hard or choosing not to , and I do and will challenge them 

28 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

You just don't like to hear the truth that Pearson and Manning inherited vastly different squad's because it doesnt fit with your agenda. 

It’s called doubling down Gull

The loudest anti Pearson screamers are feeling a bit vulnerable 

2 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Sure.

But ultimately it should have been MA (and SL) calling the shots there. The financial buck stopped with them.

And actually I don’t think it helped LJ one jot in the end. Too many options. 

 

So you absolve LJ of any responsibility or blame ?

4 minutes ago, Cole Not Gas said:

Staggering insight as to how some people think Pearson's win rate of 30% was anywhere near as good as 'Litlle Lee's of 40%. Maths, extenuating circumstance, whatever.

Under Little lee we looked like getting to the P.Os until Covid struck. Under Pearson we fell asleep and then all died of 'frustration' as we continually conceded late goals.

Are you David Icke ?

You  absolutely deserve another spell of ‘Little Lee’ the Wonderboy , spend no issue ‘

, Points deductions and a return to League 1

’We looked like getting in the play offs until Co Vid struck’

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I've heard every excuse in the book for Manning from not enough time on the grass to it's not his squad and now it's it will be the same people appointing a new manager so may aswell just keep Manning. It's desperation. 

 

Just now, Silvio Dante said:

Which is essentially the Ian Gay argument from this morning….

Was going to say - This is the Guru Gays attitude

And a few others

So if its decided the new bloke isn’t up to it, because the same people will choose his successor , let’s not bother doing anything and just take what’s coming

Truly bizarre

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Ian is a very different character when @Davefevs is on the pod! 

Noticeably , although as usual he paid zero attention to what anyone else had to say tapping away on a phone or keypad and noticeably today , not in the accompanying text messages like he normally does as there were a few challenging his b********

Probably texting Tinnion 

2 minutes ago, Cole Not Gas said:

I think you may mean under Pearson the late goals used to kill us; both in terms of points and supporter loyalty. He was an average defender in his day and he couldnt coach our decent defenders to save his life (job). Good riddance

Still swilling the meths then 

Just now, exAtyeoMax said:

I know Nige was interested in the job after Cotts left, he mentions it on an interview on Five Live with Mark Chapman

What perfect timing and fit that would have been 

8 minutes ago, Cole Not Gas said:

Ifs and buts, Roger. If LM is still here - he may walk before the end of the season, but thankfully he wont be reading some of the minority nonsense on here! Thank goodness Pearson is no longer here, what he would have done with the cup run and all these games and injuries, we can only tremble to think so the final IF about progressing doesnt come into it as we'd have been bottom 2 by now. Pearson's legacy will be leaving this club because the management didnt trust him in the January transfer market and because he'd had 30 months and left us so, so weak up front.

Oh my you’re trolling  reaches a new level

Or maybe you are simply strange and deluded, or maybe a gas troll

’We’d  have been in the bottom two by now’

7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

What NP inherited, take most individuals at that point out of it, as well as those with poor attitude or ability.

The morale was poor if not collapsed, the injury crisis was big, the form was dire, loads out of contract, arguably not very well coached for a good 2 years minimum...maybe longer. For Holden and least the latter stages of the Lee Johnson era.

Individuals or a number of them did have qualities on paper but when the strategic position has collapsed there is no salvaging the situation with that squad.

Especially when FFP was starting to close in too. It was truly a dire situation.

Excellent simple summary Mr P

Dire it indeed was 

1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Some would say expected to add more to his game

others would say he’s had the stronger points of his game neutralised.

opinions eh

Feeding and utilising TC would have been my main focus tbh

Instead we’ve nullified his threat and to such a degree that he’s not even a starter at present time

If we lose him I believe we’ve ******** up big time

4 minutes ago, Graham76 said:

If Manning gets sacked then who deputises whilst we recruit a new Manager?   Hogg doesn't seem like the type who would step up or be capable of getting us out of this mess.  We would therefore probably need someone immediately on a short term basis to save us from relegation. Big Sam?  Warnock?  Brian Tinnion?  

Andy King

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

What’s happening is even the Anti-Nige Society are starting to see what is happening (how could you not see it?), realising how outspoken their previous position has been at times in relation to how events have transpired and some of the excuses and comments you are starting to see are comical and verging on desperation and very intense straw clutching.

Nobody was blaming Nige two weeks ago when we were 15 clear, now it’s only 6 clear Liam had suddenly inherited a mess. I would suggest this has started to go wrong since Boxing Day, before that Liam’s start was ok. Nige hasn’t been in charge or had a window since it’s all started going pear shaped.

Almost as if NPs legacy has drifted and LMs influence taken over  eh Numero

And as for the ones screaming for this , and outing NP

Many have lost their internet connection and others are simply doubling down 

5 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

What an absolute, avoidable mess they have made 
 

If we didn't know better you'd think they were deliberately sabotaging the club with these bizarre decisions

Yes - this isn’t about LM alone - it’s deeper and wider , and more worrying than that 

It’s about the decisions they’ve made , and any that they’ve now got to make 

Frightening tbh

As I said , embarrassing 

Mind you he did have Watkins and Bakinson too 

Maybe he did ‘fail’

15 minutes ago, Jeez said:

No doubt JL & BT massively underestimated the job NP & Co were doing, but binning off Manning early doors to make them wear their mistake doesn't help anyone. If anything it should encourage the board to properly invest in the squad. 

With more of his type of squad & having gone through a tough initiation to the championship, we might find ourselves with an actual identity & a method for dealing with teams we've struggled against.

 

Ehhhhhhh

Its nothing to do with ‘binning him

off early’  to ‘make them wear their mistake’

Its what’s best , or what many believe is the best , for THE CLUB (OUR CLUB)

If he’s a mistake , doubling down on it and throwing money at it won’t change it or solve the problem 

It will merely make it worse and leave more problems as we move onwards 

3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I'm just thinking that SL did pull rank when things went wrong, and might do again?

Possibly -

 I see interestingly on another thread that KITR has said that last time JL had a dabble McInnes and SOD were his choices / picks

As appears widely accepted Cotts , who got us out of that was Keith Dawes ‘Man’

it seems everyone’s had a go , or a few turns

Maybe Gavin Marshall’s turn to choose  

7 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Absolutely staggering isn’t it.

And embarrassing 

4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

and SL phoned Nige…? 

Good q max

it was a strange appointment for the Lansdowns

I think I’m right in recalling NP indicated his interest , (To SL)  and it certainly came across as a SL decision , and in fairness , he’s got lots wrong but for the situation he ultimately chose the right man.

Maybe Holden was his too as he obviously preceded the NP appointment but it had a JL fingerprint over it IMO

53 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Whose idea was it to appoint Deano? 

Gut feeling was JL Max

I think LM is Tinnions