Nibor Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 or are not embarrased by the flimsiness of the YES to tesco campaign arguement? It's far less flimsy than some of the the arguments against moving to a new stadium, particularly when you take into account the 10,000 new homes that will be built in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 It's far less flimsy than some of the the arguments against moving to a new stadium, particularly when you take into account the 10,000 new homes that will be built in the area. that doesn't really have anything to do with my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 so you by the use of the emoticons i take it you: either don't understand my point or are not embarrased by the flimsiness of the YES to tesco campaign arguement? you have been against the new stadium from the off so im not surprised by your reaction tbh the yes campaign is important because if there isn't a tesco there isn't a new stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 that doesn't really have anything to do with my point I think it shows that you're just portraying this as a waste of time because you are opposed to moving from Ashton Gate anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroudy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 740 Yes no 821! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 so you by the use of the emoticons i take it you: either don't understand my point or are not embarrased by the flimsiness of the YES to tesco campaign arguement? There is nothing flimsy about the say yes to Tesco campaign as you call it, we can all disect portions of information and knock it. Do you really want our club to remain in the backwaters of lower league football for another three decades because it doesn't suit your beliefs to sell A G to the highest bidder which just happens to be Tesco, because that is a real prospect if this bid is not successful. Make no mistake the campaign against Tesco is politically led with local people being fed scaremongering stories on a daily basis to further their cause. So if we as supporters of the club don't support the club the objectors could scupper the club and our ambitions. I started this petition as a way of countering some of this opposition and to redress the balance if you don't like it then don't sign it, or you could even sign the opposition petition, that's your choice. It's very easy to knock something but much harder to carry out a positive act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 It's far less flimsy than some of the the arguments against moving to a new stadium, particularly when you take into account the 10,000 new homes that will be built in the area. Bearing in mind the state of the economy, I'll believe those 10,000 new homes when I see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Bearing in mind the state of the economy, I'll believe those 10,000 new homes when I see them. The spatial strategy and need for more homes is far longer term than this recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Gow Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Bump. Looks like we will be in the lead within days now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebolton Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 A quick point. A couple of posts on here have suggested that BERATE is run by the Green Party, or somesuch. While I would love this to be true, it isn't (probably beyond our organisational skills). In fact, the one BERATE meeting I attended had more ex-Labour councillors than Green Party people in attendance (but far more of no political affiliation) Charlie Bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 A quick point. A couple of posts on here have suggested that BERATE is run by the Green Party, or somesuch. While I would love this to be true, it isn't (probably beyond our organisational skills). In fact, the one BERATE meeting I attended had more ex-Labour councillors than Green Party people in attendance (but far more of no political affiliation) Charlie Bolton You support the club's world cup bid but are trying to scupper it by opposing the necessary build on the present site to give the club the funding to do it. Tell me how you propose the club finds the money if not through the sale of its ground to Tesco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 is there any chance we can get this thread pinned till the deadline in september Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 The spatial strategy and need for more homes is far longer term than this recession. That may be so, but I'll wager that these homes won't be built in the next five years, which means that there's no need for a big new Tesco to serve non-existent residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnowhyibother Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This thread is ridiculous. Perhaps too many of you have been influenced by the X Factor. Who is going to take any notice of an e petition? Especially one that has been skewed by people voting with no interest in the future of Ashton Gate other than wanting to generate the most money from the sale of the football ground? And I must ask does the votes of people visiting the area for 3 hours every other week have the same value as somebody who lives in that area? people nothing would give me greater pleasure than selling the ground off for the max money. Please bear in mind though that Sainsburys were refused consent on expanding their existing store some half a mile up the road. Couple that with the fact that Asda pretty well own the area around their store and you can be sure that both parties will object to the max about a Tesco being put half a mile down the road.This will go to a judicial review. Vote how you want but it aint going to make any difference. The superstores will have their say and to be honest getting a Tesco on our site will, in my mind, be the biggest pain in the arse that our club will come across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelbcfc Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 A new E petition has been set up to counter Berate and other parties voting against the new Tesco plans for Ashton Gate. It is Titled, Say Yes To Tesco. Sign if you want to. Go to http://epetitions.bristol.gov.uk/petition.php?id=264 signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 That may be so, but I'll wager that these homes won't be built in the next five years, which means that there's no need for a big new Tesco to serve non-existent residents. There's no immediate need but the long term strategy which will put around 30-40,000 new residents within a mile or two can and will be taken into account even if those houses are five years off being built. Tesco may even choose to just bank the land if they don't win first time, they will in the end for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You support the club's world cup bid but are trying to scupper it by opposing the necessary build on the present site to give the club the funding to do it. Tell me how you propose the club finds the money if not through the sale of its ground to Tesco. the council should purchase the ground and use the land for a mixture of social housing and affordable housing for key workers, and community facilities the blueprint for this can be seen at main road, manchester The co-operation between the council and the club was a key instrument in ensuring that the commonwealth games was a massive success this same co-operation in Bristol can lead to success for the world cup bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 the council should purchase the ground and use the land for a mixture of social housing and affordable housing for key workers, and community facilities the blueprint for this can be seen at main road, manchester The co-operation between the council and the club was a key instrument in ensuring that the commonwealth games was a massive success this same co-operation in Bristol can lead to success for the world cup bid I'm sure we'd all love that but Bristol City Council is significantly less useful than a chocolate teapot. There is very little chance of them doing anything positive, the absolute best we can hope for from those useless ******s is that they don't manage to find a way to screw it up for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Dave Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 the council should purchase the ground and use the land for a mixture of social housing and affordable housing for key workers, and community facilities Agreed. And nice to hear it said by someone from outside the area. (A lot of the people banging the drum for Tesco seem to be from miles away - funny that, isn't it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy Parrot Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 the council should purchase the ground and use the land for a mixture of social housing and affordable housing for key workers, and community facilities Well yes, but if they had £20m to spend on it then I'm sure they would've approached the club for it. Plus - housing? Hmmmm...nothing being built yet on the site of the Wedlocks yet, a large derelict site not far AG where flats were due to be built but the company went bust, not really sure the council should be putting taxpayers money into that right now anyway. I'm guessing if the site was worth £20m to the council they'd have bought it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Well yes, but if they had £20m to spend on it then I'm sure they would've approached the club for it. Plus - housing? Hmmmm...nothing being built yet on the site of the Wedlocks yet, a large derelict site not far AG where flats were due to be built but the company went bust, not really sure the council should be putting taxpayers money into that right now anyway. I'm guessing if the site was worth £20m to the council they'd have bought it by now. so bristol is awash with social housing and affordable housing for key workers? there are no housing waiting lists in Bristol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 so bristol is awash with social housing and affordable housing for key workers? there are no housing waiting lists in Bristol? No need to worry about housing. There are 10000 new homes earmarked in south Bristol by SWRDA. They however will need somewher to shop, TESCO or should we go about it like we did Sadley Broke by building houses then take 10/15 years to realise there are no amenities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtyeoCardy Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted August 28, 2009 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 signed Good stuff! 844 plays 821 ... come on, we can overtake the No petition by breakfast time in the morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted August 29, 2009 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 *** BUMP *** 847 (No) plays 835 (Yes) Let's overtake them before kick-off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 nothing being built yet on the site of the Wedlocks yet, a large derelict site not far AG where flats were due to be built but the company went bust Well done Fatty Wedlock, keep on haunting those barstewards that knocked your place down. I am absolutely delighted that the company went bust, perhaps they might think twice next time......I doubt it very much though. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 the council should purchase the ground and use the land for a mixture of social housing and affordable housing for key workers, and community facilities I didn't think councils were allowed to do social housing anymore? I thought it was down to the Housing Associations who by & large cannot get large brownfield schemes to stack because of the borrowing rules. But what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icamanicity Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 We are in the lead, yes 855, no 852, well done people, lets keep it going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizred Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Well done Rich, we all usually sit back and let the vocal minority dictate to the silent majority, with all the amount of use on this forum the Yes vote should be in the thousands but at least over 800 have shown their support to Mr Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Signed. 869 yes 858 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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