MichaelRobartes Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yet another appalling decision from the umpires. I don't like to slag off officials in any sport but the stuff they're getting wrong in this test is really really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yet another appalling decision from the umpires. I don't like to slag off officials in any sport but the stuff they're getting wrong in this test is really really poor. There are two parts to this IMO. Firstly, the umpires are now used to DRS so they're probably a bit quicker to give those decisions, but obviously DRS isn't in use here. Secondly, because DRS isn't in play, India are appealing aggressively for anything anywhere near out so eventually it's going to tell Lesson: make them use frigging DRS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 There are two parts to this IMO. Firstly, the umpires are now used to DRS so they're probably a bit quicker to give those decisions, but obviously DRS isn't in use here. Secondly, because DRS isn't in play, India are appealing aggressively for anything anywhere near out so eventually it's going to tell Lesson: make them use frigging DRS!!! A third argument could be that DRS has reduced the quality of umpiring by making them a bit more complacent as they know that if they make a howler it'll be overturned? I'm a fan of DRS but I'm starting to think it's a possibility. Of course they don't want to get anything wrong, but there have been some real stinkers in this series, particularly the two decisions against Ballance. Agree with you, if DRS is to be used at all it must be used in every match. You can't have different rules depending on who is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 A third argument could be that DRS has reduced the quality of umpiring by making them a bit more complacent as they know that if they make a howler it'll be overturned? I'm a fan of DRS but I'm starting to think it's a possibility. Of course they don't want to get anything wrong, but there have been some real stinkers in this series, particularly the two decisions against Ballance. Agree with you, if DRS is to be used at all it must be used in every match. You can't have different rules depending on who is playing. I don't think the umpires are worse, but as an umpire you will get used to a batsman going straight to review if he's given out off glove or bat when there's been no contact; it'll be a force of habit that's hard to break. I think the number of poor calls in this series is as good an advert for DRS as there's ever been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Cook with a strike rate of less than 50? FFS get on with it! They need to declare before tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yeah, it's been a bit silly really; they should have been told "treat it as a 40 over game, then we're declaring" but they're meandering really, even though the pace picked up for a while. Buttler better come in next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Moeen turning it around corners. Think we can put the part time spinner bit to bed. I'd be tempted to let Root or Ballance have a twirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 .. and Root comes up trumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 hats off to cook here he's been getting all the stick he deserves all the credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted July 30, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 A third argument could be that DRS has reduced the quality of umpiring by making them a bit more complacent as they know that if they make a howler it'll be overturned? I'm a fan of DRS but I'm starting to think it's a possibility. Of course they don't want to get anything wrong, but there have been some real stinkers in this series, particularly the two decisions against Ballance. Agree with you, if DRS is to be used at all it must be used in every match. You can't have different rules depending on who is playing. India don't like DRS so we don't get to use it? Time for teams to start calling their bluff and refusing to play them if they don't want to play under the same conditions as the rest of the cricketing world. They'll soon change their mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 India and the BCCI have the ICC under their thumb... Money talks and it's all in India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I see Jacques Kallis has retired today. Surely the greatest all rounder ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I see Jacques Kallis has retired today. Surely the greatest all rounder ever? Better than Sobers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Better than Sobers ? Surely Kallis played in a much better era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Can't judge Sobers as never saw him play. Certainly best all rounder since the early eighties. A best eleven would probably have him and Botham in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I see Jacques Kallis has retired today. Surely the greatest all rounder ever? Certainly up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I see India are changing the rules again by appealing Jadega level one offence. ICC bending over backwards again for the Indians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I see India are changing the rules again by appealing Jadega level one offence. ICC bending over backwards again for the Indians Exactly. See my post no. 58 and Tomarse no. 251. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Certainly up there The only international cricketer who has scored 10,000+ runs and taken 250+ wickets in both tests and ODIs, Amazing he averaged near 55 in test matches, Higher than a lot of the great batsmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 The only international cricketer who has scored 10,000+ runs and taken 250+ wickets in both tests and ODIs, Amazing he averaged near 55 in test matches, Higher than a lot of the great batsmen.The thing about cricket though, is that greatness is not always judged solely on stats. I would say Gary Sobers was the more aesthetically pleasing player or Botham was more of a character, plus Kallis will have played a lot more cricket than those two- leading to the fantastic accumulated runs and wickets stats. However, you can't argue with that batting average. A modern great no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I see Jacques Kallis has retired today. Surely the greatest all rounder ever? No doubt in my mind that he'll go down as one of the greatest players of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Incidentally, is Anderson's hearing to be in front of the ICC or the BCCI? Or are they one and the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Presuming this gets wrapped up as it should then hopefully Cook gets a lot of credit for this win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Absolutely, he's got fielding bang on time and time again this test. Should shut up Piers & Warne a bit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 5fer for Moeen, delighted for the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Incidentally, is Anderson's hearing to be in front of the ICC or the BCCI? Or are they one and the same? ICC but they will need to ask the BCCI to see what they would like the outcome to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Cracking win in the end, crushing. Not enforcing the follow on was 100% the right call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Well done England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Well done England. And well done Cook, Jos and Moeen too. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Well Done England. I must admit, as I posted earlier, I would have enforced the follow on, but I had forgotten that we had included a world class spinner to take advantage of a deteriorating pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.