Jeremy Corbyn

[joe jordans teeth]

Think that's the end of labour to be fair,jez we can :laugh:,how sad,no opposition left to the Tories,which is no good for anybody in this country

[The Batman]

Two good this about Corbyn winning:-

1) It frees up Liz Kendal to be the new City physio (I can't think of any other way of getting her into a BCFC kit).

2) If Corbyn wins the 2020 General Election, we get to see Blair go on trial for war crimes.

 

TFR

I dont feel Liz kendal, but Caroline Flint is fit, and considering her age too, she just keeps getting better

[marshy]

Two good this about Corbyn winning:-

1) It frees up Liz Kendal to be the new City physio (I can't think of any other way of getting her into a BCFC kit).

2) If Corbyn wins the 2020 General Election, we get to see Blair go on trial for 

From what you've been saying I would have thought you were more interested in getting her kit off.

[marshy]

I dont feel Liz kendal, but Caroline Flint is fit, and considering her age too, she just keeps getting better

She's probably very pleased about that.

[Stoke_Gifford_Red]

Think that's the end of labour to be fair,jez we can :laugh:,how sad,no opposition left to the Tories,which is no good for anybody in this country

I'm not sure it's the end of Labour - even if they fracture some rump will continue and probably get 150+ seats at the next election. 

Plus even if Labour completely disappeared it is slightly unfair to say no opposition to the left of the Tories.  There remains the SNP (third largest party in the Commons), Lib Dems (massive loss of support at GE 2015 but by-elections since thenthen have shown massive increase) and even the Green Party.

[The Gasbuster]

I dont feel Liz kendal, but Caroline Flint is fit, and considering her age too, she just keeps getting better

Don't forget the lovely Gloria de Piero !

[BCFC Jimmer]

Think that's the end of labour to be fair,jez we can :laugh:,how sad,no opposition left to the Tories,which is no good for anybody in this country

Massive overreaction. I think Corbyn's labour are going to suprise a lot of people. Judging by David Cameron's Twitter feed he is already rattled.

The fact is that whether or not you think Corbyn's policies would work, they will attract many voters, particularly the young who are getting f*cked at the moment.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Massive overreaction. I think Corbyn's labour are going to suprise a lot of people. Judging by David Cameron's Twitter feed he is already rattled.

The fact is that whether or not you think Corbyn's policies would work, they will attract many voters, particularly the young who are getting f*cked at the moment.

Well your convinced, doesn't look his MP's are convinced or the polls, but hey ho.

PS:- His real problems will start when he is questioned about his Falklands stance and then maybe Gibraltar, his disdain for our armed forces, that's before they even start on anti semitism or terrorism.

 

 

[BCFC Jimmer]

Well your convinced, doesn't look his MP's are convinced or the polls, but hey ho.

 

So boring; we know that already. He has only just been elected so not sure what you expect. As I said, I can only see his popularity increasing. Im starting to also think that the Torys scare tactics might just backfire. I don't think Camerons tweet today has worked in his favour. Him/his advsiors are a bit thick sometimes.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

So boring; we know that already. He has only just been elected so not sure what you expect. As I said, I can only see his popularity increasing. Im starting to also think that the Torys scare tactics might just backfire. I don't think Camerons tweet today has worked in his favour. Him/his advsiors are a bit thick sometimes.

it maybe boring to you because you are a belieber, but it has already happened.

But I repeat the wheels will come flying off big style when he has to answer questions about, his Falklands stance and then maybe Gibraltar, his disdain for our armed forces, that's before they even start on anti semitism or terrorism and just wait for the first strike that he supports that causes public disruption.

 

 

[The Gasbuster]

it maybe boring to you because you are a belieber, but it has already happened.

But I repeat the wheels will come flying off big style when he has to answer questions about, his Falklands stance and then maybe Gibraltar, his disdain for our armed forces, that's before they even start on anti semitism or terrorism and just wait for the first strike that he supports that causes public disruption.

 

 

Shit Fein & Argentina's President were amongst the first to congratulate him yesterday. No doubt Chavez would have done as well, if still around.

Says it all really.

[BCFC Jimmer]

it maybe boring to you because you are a belieber, but it has already happened.

But I repeat the wheels will come flying off big style when he has to answer questions about, his Falklands stance and then maybe Gibraltar, his disdain for our armed forces, that's before they even start on anti semitism or terrorism and just wait for the first strike that he supports that causes public disruption.

 

 

It might come as a shock to you but a lot of people actually agree with his views. If we are going to go down the left route his policies are also sound. Of course, people on the right will start saying that his polcies wont work in reality (as if the conservative government  is working out nicely for everyone).

Having said that, he is smart enough to not say anything too controversial now he is leader so I doubt that wonderful moment you are looking forward to won't happen.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

It might come as a shock to you but a lot of people actually agree with his views. If we are going to go down the left route his policies are also sound. Of course, people on the right will start saying that his polcies wont work in reality (as if the conservative government  is working out nicely for everyone).

Having said that, he is smart enough to not say anything too controversial now he is leader so I doubt that wonderful moment you are looking forward to won't happen.

it might come as a shock to you, but a lot of people does not constitute a majority by any stretch of the imagination, especially when it comes to such emotive subjects.

and your final sentence says it all, he won't say anything controversial FFS, another great conviction politician then?, pigeon holes him with everybody else in the political class, you couldn't make it up.

 

[Stoke_Gifford_Red]

it might come as a shock to you, but a lot of people does not constitute a majority by any stretch of the imagination, especially when it comes to such emotive subjects.

and your final sentence says it all, he won't say anything controversial FFS, another great conviction politician then?, pigeon holes him with everybody else in the political class, you couldn't make it up.

 

Although he won't need a majority - 35% of the vote at the next election is likely to be enough for Labour. 

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Although he won't need a majority - 35% of the vote at the next election is likely to be enough for Labour. 

I think you mean 35% of the electorate not the vote, he will still need a majority of the vote.

 

 

[Stoke_Gifford_Red]

I think you mean 35% of the electorate not the vote, he will still need a majority of the vote.

 

 

No, I mean 35% of the vote - Labour got 30.5% in the 2015 election.

By way of comparison, Conservatives got 36.8%, UKIP got 12.7%, Lib Dems 7.9%, SNP 4.7%, Greens 3.8% and the balance came from the NI parties, Plaid and other minor parties. 

The current electoral set up is such that 35% for Labour is likely to be sufficient to win, especially considering SNP, Greens, PC etc would support Labour but not Conservative in event of a hung parliament. 

[The Batman]

 She'd love it coming from me. You not so much :-) 

[Portland Bill]

Shit Fein & Argentina's President were amongst the first to congratulate him yesterday. No doubt Chavez would have done as well, if still around.

Says it all really.

 

 

No doubt Augusto Pinochet would have tweeted Thatcher if he had been able to!

 

[And Its Smith]

 this is superb

https://audioboom.com/boos/3566718-tory-minister-priti-patel-gives-a-lesson-on-how-not-to-react-to-a-corbyn-victory?utm_campaign=embed&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[Kid in the Riot]

it maybe boring to you because you are a belieber, but it has already happened.

But I repeat the wheels will come flying off big style when he has to answer questions about, his Falklands stance and then maybe Gibraltar, his disdain for our armed forces, that's before they even start on anti semitism or terrorism and just wait for the first strike that he supports that causes public disruption.

Hasn't he already answered questions on those matters?

Hilary Benn, chosen by Corbyn as shadow foreign minister, fundamentally disagrees with many of Corbyn's stances on what is happening in the middle east and Ukraine for example. This suggests Corbyn is willing to listen and have a debate within the Labour party about what their position on these matters will actually be in the run-up to an election.

The reality is we will end up with a Corbyn-Lite Labour - is he going to get his way on ditching Trident for example? Very unlikely I would suggest... Benn and Watson will oppose him.

Interesting to note that some political commentators are now saying he could in fact win in 2020! Presumably the same ones that predicted he had zero chance of becoming Labour leader?

The Tories are heading for destruction in 2020 anyway IMO, this EU referendum could split them, and who is going to be their next leader? The evil Theresa May, dopey Boris or despised Gideon Osborne?

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Hasn't he already answered questions on those matters?

Hilary Benn, chosen by Corbyn as shadow foreign minister, fundamentally disagrees with many of Corbyn's stances on what is happening in the middle east and Ukraine for example. This suggests Corbyn is willing to listen and have a debate within the Labour party about what their position on these matters will actually be in the run-up to an election.

The reality is we will end up with a Corbyn-Lite Labour - is he going to get his way on ditching Trident for example? Very unlikely I would suggest... Benn and Watson will oppose him.

Interesting to note that some political commentators are now saying he could in fact win in 2020! Presumably the same ones that predicted he had zero chance of becoming Labour leader?

The Tories are heading for destruction in 2020 anyway IMO, this EU referendum could split them, and who is going to be their next leader? The evil Theresa May, dopey Boris or despised Gideon Osborne?

Good to see that as usual power corrupts and another so called conviction politician loses his conviction once he has power.

 

[chipdawg]

Good to see that as usual power corrupts and another so called conviction politician loses his conviction once he has power.

 

One of the main problems with UK politics (any countries politics I suppose) is that those who accept compromise are accused of abandoning principals and those who refuse to move from a single point of principal are accused of acting only in self interest

While I don't agree with much of what Corbyn says, at least we finally have a genuine counter-point to right-of-centre conservatism in this country. That counter-point may be straight out of 1976 but at least it's a different PoV. I do think Corbyn is going to get ripped apart in the press though, I just hope some of his more sensible policies (nationalisation of railways, taxation of big business) get through the mud slinging 

[BCFC Jimmer]

Good to see that as usual power corrupts and another so called conviction politician loses his conviction once he has power.

 

You say that as if people on the right don't do the same. They are the worst!

So are you anti politics in general now?

Maybe you fit into the 'we need a revolution' category with Russell Brand?

[The Gasbuster]

May be so, certainly a man who escaped justice.

That said, he never invaded British territory, never enslaved any of it's civilians, or murdered any British subjects.  

[The Gasbuster]

D.P.

 

 

[Esmond Million's Bung]

You say that as if people on the right don't do the same. They are the worst!

So are you anti politics in general now?

Maybe you fit into the 'we need a revolution' category with Russell Brand?

This exactly why labour have lost 2 elections, believing that hating the tories is a policy.

I am anti successive governments refusing to listen to the will of the people.

I fit into the politicians need to actually listen and act on what they hear, not just say after a poor election showing 'we hear what you are telling us' and keep on keeping on.

I have little time for most politicians and even less for politicians who are prepared to abandon deeply held convictions in exchange for power.

One of the main problems with UK politics (any countries politics I suppose) is that those who accept compromise are accused of abandoning principals and those who refuse to move from a single point of principal are accused of acting only in self interest

While I don't agree with much of what Corbyn says, at least we finally have a genuine counter-point to right-of-centre conservatism in this country. That counter-point may be straight out of 1976 but at least it's a different PoV. I do think Corbyn is going to get ripped apart in the press though, I just hope some of his more sensible policies (nationalisation of railways, taxation of big business) get through the mud slinging 

I agree with much of what you say, but just can't get my head around the concept, my analogy is I have been a lifelong BCFC supporter but today because I now have some power, I will support the gas as well and when they play each other I will be neutral.

 

[BCFC Jimmer]

This exactly why labour have lost 2 elections, believing that hating the tories is a policy.

I am anti successive governments refusing to listen to the will of the people.

I fit into the politicians need to actually listen and act on what they hear, not just say after a poor election showing 'we hear what you are telling us' and keep on keeping on.

I have little time for most politicians and even less for politicians who are prepared to abandon deeply held convictions in exchange for power.

I completely agree with most of that.  I'd argue that Jez could be a significant improvement on some of the bullshitters we have had in the past though.

The only thing that stops me from losing faith entirely with our political system is knowing how bad other countries are governed. For example, I have spent time living in Johannesburg recently - there really is no democracy or transparency at all in South Africa's government.  It certainly makes you feel a bit better about the state of things here and makes Russell Brands 'I want a revolution' stance look utterly ridiculous.

[screech]

I love the fact that it has pissed off the old boys brigade these last few years, Farage and now Corbyn.

They have chucked every last bit of crap they can find to stop these people getting in on the action and they are finding out that the more they try to discredit them, the less notice the people take of them. Long may the chaos continue.

[Kid in the Riot]

I love the fact that it has pissed off the old boys brigade these last few years, Farage and now Corbyn.

They have chucked every last bit of crap they can find to stop these people getting in on the action and they are finding out that the more they try to discredit them, the less notice the people take of them. Long may the chaos continue.

I had the pleasure of listening to Heidi Alexander, the new shadow health secretary, on the radio this afternoon. She too sounded like a 'normal', honest person even to the point of admitting she had a lot of work to do to get up to speed with health matters which obviously aren't her current specialism.

Love the fact Corbyn has chosen a vegan animal welfare campaigner (Kerry McCarthy) as shadow minister for food and rural affairs too!! He's obviously got a sense of humour.

[chipdawg]

This exactly why labour have lost 2 elections, believing that hating the tories is a policy.

I am anti successive governments refusing to listen to the will of the people.

I fit into the politicians need to actually listen and act on what they hear, not just say after a poor election showing 'we hear what you are telling us' and keep on keeping on.

I have little time for most politicians and even less for politicians who are prepared to abandon deeply held convictions in exchange for power.

I agree with much of what you say, but just can't get my head around the concept, my analogy is I have been a lifelong BCFC supporter but today because I now have some power, I will support the gas as well and when they play each other I will be neutral.

 

A better analogy would be that you're a diehard City fan who'd gone on record talking about your dislike for Gas scum but then end up in charge of the planning decision on their new 'stadium'. You have to compromise a couple of principals in order to do your job to the best of your ability