Lee Tomlin (Merged)

[JoeAman08]

Could he be on the wind up? Sure. Do past rumours about us messing about with deals make me wonder? Yes. I'm not 100% he would wind people up to this extent. If I had to go with my gut, I'd say we are screwing around with it a bit. 

[deadredfred]

This suddenly feels very like last summer now. I'm still hopeful, and I'm not one to hang on every tweet, but a definite deflating sense of deja vu.

[Smokey]

People are so keen to bash the club, if he signs

5 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Can i get a ******* refund on my season ticket. Absolute joke this club is.

Ha ha. Your funny

[Super]

4 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Can i get a ******* refund on my season ticket. Absolute joke this club is.

get a grip.

[BS3_RED]

2 minutes ago, smokey live said:

People are so keen to bash the club, if he signs

Ha ha. Your funny

I just in a bad mood. Forget it.

[chinapig]

4 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said:

IF and it's a big IF, the club have agreed terms and then withdrawn/tried to change they should hang their heads in shame - especially after last seasons shenanigans.  However, it's a completely different staff to last seasons, so I'm a little sceptical that this has happened; they wouldn't be that stupid would they? 

The one thing always in our DNA is incompetence.

[robin_unreliant]

Here's a thought. Does MA have total authority to make an offer. Or does he discuss with the agent, come to some understanding BUT then have to go cap in hand to SL for signoff?

If the latter you can start to imagine how supposedly 'agreed' offers might have to be subsequently changed.

I am totally not ITK but just sounds odd that we have heard the same rumours before with a different guy negotiating for the club.

[Vincent Vega]

7 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Can i get a ******* refund on my season ticket. Absolute joke this club is.

Yes you can , ring Kay at the club she will sort it for you .

[MelksRed]

I am at a loss.......over 43 pages of tweets and we can't seem to finalise a deal for him.

I think that BCFC need to give him a final offer, not be held to ransom, and then see where it goes.

This has become all too tedious now...I want him here but we shouldn't be held to ransom my one player....sends the wrong message......It will make our other negotiations (as the window progresses) more protracted.

Mr Tomlin and Mr Ashton need to put up.......or.......shut it! (Firmly closed)

COYR

[Super]

I think some on here think we should pay him any amount! No doubt we are making him a very good offer the rest is up to him, get the feeling it's all about money with him, if it is tell him to do one and move on.

[BRISTOL86]

Has anyone ever seen Colin Pack and Lee Tomlin in the same room?

[Davefevs]

I think we are at a stage where we will know once and for all in the next couple of days.  If it doesn't happen, not saying it won't, but more likely to be nearer start of season, whilst we look elsewhere.

I don't think anyone can complain about his tweets.

We all crave a bit of interaction with him, we like a bit of banter, wind-up etc, but when it seems that it's not what we want hear, then we get all bitter and twisted.  Time to realise what Twitter is.

[Pickle Rick]

**** it if we sign this Spanish lad.

[chinapig]

4 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Here's a thought. Does MA have total authority to make an offer. Or does he discuss with the agent, come to some understanding BUT then have to go cap in hand to SL for signoff?

If the latter you can start to imagine how supposedly 'agreed' offers might have to be subsequently changed.

I am totally not ITK but just sounds odd that we have heard the same rumours before with a different guy negotiating for the club.

Good management is setting the limits then delegating authority. If SL doesn't do that he may as well do the job himself.

[BRISTOL86]

Surely, SURELY we can't be this incompetent again? 

Please?

Anyone?

 

[Charliesboots]

Apologies if all ready discussed but his latest tweet. 

[Silvio Dante]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think we are at a stage where we will know once and for all in the next couple of days.  If it doesn't happen, not saying it won't, but more likely to be nearer start of season, whilst we look elsewhere.

I don't think anyone can complain about his tweets.

We all crave a bit of interaction with him, we like a bit of banter, wind-up etc, but when it seems that it's not what we want hear, then we get all bitter and twisted.  Time to realise what Twitter is.

Bang on. He may want to join us, but the continual harassing him on Twitter would annoy even the most patient man. We're like that attractive girl who turned out a bunny boiler in the way we're chasing him on Twitter. 

My opinion/hope? For that reason, he's tweeted what he's tweeted in "banter". Ultimately, if you were in job negotiations, you don't want to tell the world and his wife constantly how it's going. Chill and back off the bloke - what will be will be

[Kibs]

5 minutes ago, Super said:

I think some on here think we should pay him any amount! No doubt we are making him a very good offer the rest is up to him, get the feeling it's all about money with him, if it is tell him to do one and move on.

I agree but to offer him a deal that is acceptable to him and then reduce it is pretty shocking. 

Sounds like he's getting a bit fed up with it all to me. Can't blame him either.

Bottom line is if we can't/won't pay what he wants, we move on now else we're going to end up in the same stupid situation as last season.

[Smokey]

18 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

I just in a bad mood. Forget it.

England hasn't even kicked off yet

[BRISTOL86]

7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Bang on. He may want to join us, but the continual harassing him on Twitter would annoy even the most patient man. We're like that attractive girl who turned out a bunny boiler in the way we're chasing him on Twitter. 

My opinion/hope? For that reason, he's tweeted what he's tweeted in "banter". Ultimately, if you were in job negotiations, you don't want to tell the world and his wife constantly how it's going. Chill and back off the bloke - what will be will be

To be fair I don't think what our fans do on Twitter is any worse or different to what other clubs fans do.

Annoying sure, but par for the course. No one forces them to use social media. 

[daored]

Am I missing something; where does it say we've altered our offer? We've agreed a deal with Bournemouth, I suspect a chat has happened previously between the club, Tomlin and his agent. 

The guy has been bombarded with tweets , when you signing, why aren't you signing etc, etc. 

Give him a break, it's a private matter between him and the club. It will either be confirmed it he will turn us down. A fan tweeting him isn't going to influence his decision. 

Just feel sorry for the guy because if he doesn't sign for us, he's going to have the same people calling him a **** etc, etc. It makes us look like a small club and in my opinion will ultimately discourage players signing for us

[Northern Red]

Any chance people could stop getting menstrual about every single thing being tweeted by a footballer of above average ability with a penchant for winding people up?

[INCRED]

Can't say the twitter chit chat is doing anyone any good although, Tomlin is known in football circles as a bit of a joker and wind up merchant. Surprised he has put stuff about talks on line but suppose he holds all the card's but if I was LJ or MA I don't think I would be best pleased

[P'head Red]

4 minutes ago, daored said:

Am I missing something; where does it say we've altered our offer? We've agreed a deal with Bournemouth, I suspect a chat has happened previously between the club, Tomlin and his agent. 

The guy has been bombarded with tweets , when you signing, why aren't you signing etc, etc. 

Give him a break, it's a private matter between him and the club. It will either be confirmed it he will turn us down. A fan tweeting him isn't going to influence his decision. 

Just feel sorry for the guy because if he doesn't sign for us, he's going to have the same people calling him a **** etc, etc. It makes us look like a small club and in my opinion will ultimately discourage players signing for us

He's since deleted the changing offer tweet.

[daored]

2 minutes ago, P'head Red said:

He's since deleted the changing offer tweet.

Fair enough, wasn't aware of that. 

[BITW]

43 minutes ago, ciderbeans said:

******* mark Ashton! What is he playing about at?!

If what's being said is true it's not Mark Ashton your anger should be aimed at. He's not the one pulling the strings...

[Davefevs]

12 minutes ago, Kibs said:

I agree but to offer him a deal that is acceptable to him and then reduce it is pretty shocking. 

Sounds like he's getting a bit fed up with it all to me. Can't blame him either.

Bottom line is if we can't/won't pay what he wants, we move on now else we're going to end up in the same stupid situation as last season.

We don't know exactly what the deal was, who may have messed who about, etc.  We are all speculating.  

What would we say if Ashton came on here and said, we agreed a deal, and Tomlin's agent wanted a bit more.  That could be what happened.

This is a forum, so we can carry on the debate, but we are all guessing, well 99.99% of us are.

[Strawberry2157.]

6 minutes ago, P'head Red said:

He's since deleted the changing offer tweet.

Exactly what happen last year!!

[JoeAman08]

Twitter is used by many players and millions of fans. Every player linked with a team gets what Tomlin is getting. Twitter is also a tool to get different bits of information. How far you can take those 150 letters is up to the person reading and writing them. It's useful. We can interpret Tomlin's tweets in any way we want. Only he will know what is truly going on. I can't see anything wrong with him discussing a few things(maybe the changed deal bit too far true or not). I enjoy that he will interact with the fans. Many wouldn't bother but I think it's a good thing for the most part. 

[ciderbeans]

Does Ashton not pull the strings? I thought he was key in negotiating contracts and Johnson gives the okay if he wants the player.

as it is contractual, it would be MA that anger should be aimed at. We are apparently playing silly buggers when it was clearly stated by player that an acceptable contract had already been offered.

 

[RumRed]

Bored now, not the way to conduct business.  I would have loved him to be our player next season but I can now see why the Bournmouth fans dislike the social media stuff, not sure that our contracted players will be too impressed.

[BS3_RED]

25 minutes ago, smokey live said:

England hasn't even kicked off yet

Well that only took 5 minutes to **** me off

[alexukhc]

3 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Well that only took 5 minutes to **** me off

Same boat 

[eric04]

Two sides to every story. 

I think it's much more likely the agent has come up with a few extra demands when it came down to signing things off. 

We've been talking all summer, before finally bidding. I can't believe we would be as stupid as to try and save a few quid now. 

 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

7 minutes ago, ciderbeans said:

Does Ashton not pull the strings? I thought he was key in negotiating contracts and Johnson gives the okay if he wants the player.

as it is contractual, it would be MA that anger should be aimed at. We are apparently playing silly buggers when it was clearly stated by player that an acceptable contract had already been offered.

 

I think Ive read everything tweeted and written by and about Tomlin.  Not once have I ever read that an acceptable contract had been offered- Just let us know where that was 'clearly stated by player'.

Why on earth are people jumping to the gun that MA has screwed the deal? It is common knowledge that we would make LT the highest paid player in our club's history. Who's to say that greed hasn't crept in.

We just don't know so just maybe we should give our club the benefit of the doubt and just maybe we'll also see Tomlin join in the next few days and just maybe we should keep our toys in the pram for now.

[chinapig]

3 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I think Ive read everything tweeted and written by and about Tomlin.  Not once have I ever read that an acceptable contract had been offered- Just let us know where that was 'clearly stated by player'.

Why on earth are people jumping to the gun that MA has screwed the deal? It is common knowledge that we would make LT the highest paid player in our club's history. Who's to say that greed hasn't crept in.

We just don't know so just maybe we should give our club the benefit of the doubt and just maybe we'll also see Tomlin join in the next few days and just maybe we should keep our toys in the pram for now.

See post 1724.

[redapple]

Nobody has any idea of what is happening behind closed doors in high value negotiations that could potentially either make or break the club . They don't know what individuals are involved at different stages , what stage they're at or what maximum numbers they've been given to play with . 

Yet people are getting angry without any of that knowledge , blaming individuals , blaming the club , blaming the owner . 

A lot of immaturity on here . I guess it's largely younger posters who dont seem to have any understanding of the real world . If they can't have their own way it's not fair , and those that they disagree with are thick, idiots ,useless , etc 

[Rudolf Hucker]

4 minutes ago, redapple said:

Nobody has any idea of what is happening behind closed doors in high value negotiations that could potentially either make or break the club . They don't know what individuals are involved at different stages , what stage they're at or what maximum numbers they've been given to play with . 

Yet people are getting angry without any of that knowledge , blaming individuals , blaming the club , blaming the owner . 

A lot of immaturity on here . I guess it's largely younger posters who dont seem to have any understanding of the real world . If they can't have their own way it's not fair , and those that they disagree with are thick, idiots ,useless , etc 

Post of the day.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

11 minutes ago, chinapig said:

See post 1724.

Thanks- yes it does seem to be the case then- from one perspective.

[Kibs]

36 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

We don't know exactly what the deal was, who may have messed who about, etc.  We are all speculating.  

What would we say if Ashton came on here and said, we agreed a deal, and Tomlin's agent wanted a bit more.  That could be what happened.

This is a forum, so we can carry on the debate, but we are all guessing, well 99.99% of us are.

I'm not speculating at all. I'm assuming Tomlin is telling the truth.

 

[chinapig]

7 minutes ago, redapple said:

Nobody has any idea of what is happening behind closed doors in high value negotiations that could potentially either make or break the club . They don't know what individuals are involved at different stages , what stage they're at or what maximum numbers they've been given to play with . 

Yet people are getting angry without any of that knowledge , blaming individuals , blaming the club , blaming the owner . 

A lot of immaturity on here . I guess it's largely younger posters who dont seem to have any understanding of the real world . If they can't have their own way it's not fair , and those that they disagree with are thick, idiots ,useless , etc 

True up to a point except we know what Tomlin claimed had happened. I suspect his agent told him to delete that tweet.

[chinapig]

5 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Thanks- yes it does seem to be the case then- from one perspective.

Quite and since retracted it seems.

[RumRed]

14 minutes ago, redapple said:

Nobody has any idea of what is happening behind closed doors in high value negotiations that could potentially either make or break the club . They don't know what individuals are involved at different stages , what stage they're at or what maximum numbers they've been given to play with . 

Yet people are getting angry without any of that knowledge , blaming individuals , blaming the club , blaming the owner . 

A lot of immaturity on here . I guess it's largely younger posters who dont seem to have any understanding of the real world . If they can't have their own way it's not fair , and those that they disagree with are thick, idiots ,useless , etc 

I agree but if I was trying to pull in a multi million pound contract I'm pretty sure I wouldn't put details on social media.

[Super]

1 hour ago, Kibs said:

I agree but to offer him a deal that is acceptable to him and then reduce it is pretty shocking. 

Sounds like he's getting a bit fed up with it all to me. Can't blame him either.

Bottom line is if we can't/won't pay what he wants, we move on now else we're going to end up in the same stupid situation as last season.

And how do you know its true! Any reason to slate this club.

[Red white and red]

People still gushing over tomlin on Twitter?.... Get a ****ing life! If he signs great, if not then we get relegated... 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

3 minutes ago, RumRed said:

I agree but if I was trying to pull in a multi million pound contract I'm pretty sure I wouldn't put details on social media.

No- he really really shouldn't but here's my take on it:

I think Tomlin has absolutely LOVED all the attention he's received from us fans and BCFC. He had a good time here, played some great football and was really appreciated by all. City are a club well worth coming to and I think once it was obvious that no Prem club was in for him and Bournemouth ready to let him go then he made his mind up to come to us.....

So long as we pay the c.£1m per annum he wants.

The negotiations which he has left to his agent may not have gone exactly to plan so far and his temper may have risen and had a temporary hissy fit. He wants to get the deal over the line too but he's a young footballer and impatient to get going.T

weeting his frustration to the world is a tad worrying on a number of levels and this may not have been lost on BCFC officials. Or us.

 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

3 minutes ago, Red white and red said:

People still gushing over tomlin on Twitter?.... Get a ****ing life! If he signs great, if not then we get relegated... 

Hahahah!

That made I laugh.

[Kibs]

10 minutes ago, Super said:

And how do you know its true! Any reason to slate this club.

As I said above, I'm assuming Tomlin isn't making it up.

Why would he go public with lies about his next potential employer?

[bcfcchris2016]

Do feel that looking at Lee Tomlin's messages. He is deliberately trying to annoy all the City fans to make the board and Mark Ashton feel bad and putting pressure on them to pay what he and his agent wants. Really is rubbish from him really and putting such unnecessary negativity around the club when we should be looking forward. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 minutes ago, bcfcchris2016 said:

Do feel that looking at Lee Tomlin's messages. He is deliberately trying to annoy all the City fans to make the board and Mark Ashton feel bad and putting pressure on them to pay what he and his agent wants. Really is rubbish from him really and putting such unnecessary negativity around the club when we should be looking forward. 

If he signs though it`ll all be forgotten by August.

[Lord Northski]

Only City could manager to screw this up. 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

32 minutes ago, Lord Northski said:

Only City could manager to screw this up. 

You had one simple sentence and you managed to screw it up.

[Ivorguy]

I say clearly NO to Tomlin.  He's shown himself addicted to social media, more so it seems than to football.  We don't need at Ashton Gate someone so up his own

Go away Tomlin, we can do better

[alexukhc]

44pages later......

[Red Rag]

Great player but Jesus he does talk a lot of bollox on that Twitter. Going off this lad big time. Either sign or stay put in the Bournemouth stiffs, it's as simple as that. Time we moved on, I sence he is going to be too much trouble for Bcfc.

 

 

[Meh]

Bored with this now. Will not read this thread ever ever again.

 

Until tomorrow obviously !! 

[deadredfred]

1 hour ago, redapple said:

A lot of immaturity on here . I guess it's largely younger posters who dont seem to have any understanding of the real world . If they can't have their own way it's not fair , and those that they disagree with are thick, idiots ,useless , etc 

Brexit again?

[ciderbeans]

Much rather we looked to dack now. Younger, will have sell on value, highly regarded and could do a similar job. Oh and much cheaper!

[HoldenBall]

The fact that we don't seem to be getting anywhere with Tomlin makes this a truly depressing night.

[Super]

27 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

I say clearly NO to Tomlin.  He's shown himself addicted to social media, more so it seems than to football.  We don't need at Ashton Gate someone so up his own

Go away Tomlin, we can do better

All about money with him.

[Ivorguy]

City policy of signing players who want to play for us is the right one - think Brownhill, O'Neill, and our very own Bryan, Reid and the kids, etc

Remember Sir Alex got shot of Beckham

 

[Sniper]

29 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

44pages later......

I'm hoping for a 28 days later..............

Crap day at work, all this shite with Tomlin and possibly another complete balls up by the club, and then those retards losing to the Fish Finger Shop, **** it, I hope I find some Zombies in the Garage!

[Red Rag]

Modern day players do seem to have very big egos. At what point in their career does the fact you kick a bag of air for a living impact on their ability to see the world quite so differently from what are useually humble beginnings. If a lad of mine behaved in the way these guys do theirs ears would be ringing.

 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

11 minutes ago, Red Rag said:

Modern day players do seem to have very big egos. At what point in their career does the fact you kick a bag of air for a living impact on their ability to see the world quite so differently from what are useually humble beginnings. If a lad of mine behaved in the way these guys do theirs ears would be ringing.

 

I have to agree with your sentiment. I get all the stuff about short career and dog eat dog etc but I really do struggle with the protracted financial demands of footballers in general wanting  more per week than most individuals earn in a year often working in unfulfilling  jobs. 

I have to say that Lee's (deleted) tweets have made me question whether this move is as good for us as I have previously thought.

Crap night though- maybe I'll feel different tomorrow when he signs.

 

[Northern Red]

3 hours ago, redapple said:

Nobody has any idea of what is happening behind closed doors in high value negotiations that could potentially either make or break the club . They don't know what individuals are involved at different stages , what stage they're at or what maximum numbers they've been given to play with . 

Yet people are getting angry without any of that knowledge , blaming individuals , blaming the club , blaming the owner . 

A lot of immaturity on here . I guess it's largely younger posters who dont seem to have any understanding of the real world . If they can't have their own way it's not fair , and those that they disagree with are thick, idiots ,useless , etc 

Absolutely spot on apart from the last paragraph. Some of the biggest dummy spitting and kneejerk reactions on here are regularly from people who are more than old enough to know better.

[Red]

Its about time the club made a statement as to what is going on, they either want the player or don't!

Just to end the moans and groans on this forum.

[RumRed]

I'm quite sad sad about this as I think he would have been great for us but I can't believe that Johnson and Ashton would put up with this stupid stuff on Twitter, maybe the Bournemouth fans were right.

I'd personally go and tell him to do one, but with regret.  

To bust our wage budget on someone so truculent in public would be a massive mistake in my opinion.  Let's just thank him for his time here and wish him luck for the future on whichever highly paid bench he's sitting on.

I maybe fickle but the love has gone for me.

 

[City37]

LJ and MA must be questioning his DNA credentials and quite rightfully so.

Although a class act (on the field) would it be right to break our wage structure for him? .....  I'm not so sure it is now - imagine what his ego would be like after getting a big fat juicy contract.

Two weeks ago I was all behind this signing .. but now I'm thinking this could be all wrong for us and time to look elsewhere.

 

[havanatopia]

Tomlin suggesting City had a package accepted then changed the goal posts? Crikey.. lets not jump to conclusions but talk about deja vu.

I'll keep my fingers crossed this is not correct.

[Son of Fred]

8 hours ago, Kibs said:

As I said above, I'm assuming Tomlin isn't making it up.

Why would he go public with lies about his next potential employer?

I've known people in actuality, do even better than that!!....nowt so strange as folk.just hope its a blip in proceedings and we get the job done,though its clear those goalposts can widen only so far-what were all hoping is that were not looking at the same 'fingers in the pie' type meddling that was reputed to be the cause of last years transfer mayhem.a faint alarm-bell in the distance??