ZiderEyed Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 £14 million is outrageous money, we're in a win win situation. If we sell him, we make £12 million-ish profit on an unknown French gem from the lower leagues, and can look at bringing in Martin or Wells or a player of a similar standard.. If we keep him, we have a 20-goal a season striker. Only stumbling block is if Kodjia is pushing for a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 20 minutes ago, spudski said: I can see bigger Clubs coming in for LJ sooner rather than later. A comment little used on here during his playing career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: £14 million is outrageous money, we're in a win win situation. If we sell him, we make £12 million-ish profit on an unknown French gem from the lower leagues, and can look at bringing in Martin or Wells. If we keep him, we have a 20-goal a season striker. Only stumbling block is if Kodjia is pushing for a move. Don't Angers have a sell on clause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Just now, Roger Red Hat said: Don't Angers have a sell on clause? Ah yes, forgot about that, no idea how much it is for though. Seen 20% to 45% touted, but either way it's a fair chunk of money for a player who was totally unproven in England last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Don't Angers have a sell on clause? I hear what you're saying. We'll have to look back at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: Just been having a quick look back at 2013/14. Just under three years ago and around this time we were drawing 1-1 at home to Shrewsbury in one of our most abject performances I can remember at home. We`d been dicked 3-0 at home by Posh on the previous Saturday - I seem to remember a certain Lee Tomlin took us apart that day - and it was shortly after the infamous 5-4 v Coventry at Northampton. We didn`t win a game until the 4-2 win at Carlisle on 26th October (the JET show) and didn`t win at home until we beat Crawley 2-0 on bonfire night. If someone had told me then that less than three years later we`d be beating Aston Villa at home I would have laughed at them so progress indeed in a relatively short time. Oh god, when the commentator on the match highlights said 'bristol city are in dreamland' I had my face in my hands. Dreamland with a win against Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Thats interesting, though maybe not for the teams in the Conference. I guess the under 23 idea was intended to address this area better. I don't what happens in Germany at the transition from youth to men's football. Other countries seem to follow the loaning out approach . Maying banning loans would force top clubs to stop stockpiling players. I know Burnley changed approach, there was also an element that they are in an area swamped by some huge Prem structures and youth players were already snapped up by them, or taken away instantly when showing promise. At least we have some miles around us between Prem clubs. When you consider how much money is spent running Academies, it does make you wonder whether it's worth it. However...with the massive parachute payments being made, for us, and other clubs like us, it's something we need to invest in as well as taking loans like TA. The biggest problem imo, is kids don't get coaching that is at the level of the rest of the world. They end up in Academies playing 'catch up'. Then are expected to be as good as the foreign players in the Prem. It's a long process of playing catch up...and unless coaching at grass roots greatly improves, then it always will be, imo. Interesting that we are now bringing in kids from abroad into our Academies...obviously LJ and his team see it the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 41 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: We'll have to look back at that. No, don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Seems the money is on Hull to sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, BigTone said: Seems the money is on Hull to sign him Surely he played against Hull for us last season, were the coach windows blacked out? or was he asleep for the journey into Hull?, Hull FFS even Derby is a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Surely he played against Hull for us last season, were the coach windows blacked out? or was he asleep for the journey into Hull?, Hull FFS even Derby is a better place. I expect he can see only £ signs and the opportunity to get relegated from the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Surely he played against Hull for us last season, were the coach windows blacked out? or was he asleep for the journey into Hull?, Hull FFS even Derby is a better place. You forget, Hull is going to be the 'City of Culture' soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Roger Red Hat said: You forget, Hull is going to be the 'City of Culture' soon. They do have a statue of Mick Ronson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Surely he played against Hull for us last season, were the coach windows blacked out? or was he asleep for the journey into Hull?, Hull FFS even Derby is a better place. You can't blame him for wanting to play Premier League football if an opportunity arises. I very much doubt he gives a flying fark about Hull, as a place. It's not like he'll live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, BigTone said: They do have a statue of Mick Ronson That's why they got the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: You can't blame him for wanting to play Premier League football if an opportunity arises. I very much doubt he gives a flying fark about Hull, as a place. It's not like he'll live there. Your probably correct I expect that he may be seduced by the bright lights of Goole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, BigTone said: They do have a statue of Mick Ronson And the place doesn`t stink of rotten fish these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said: Ah yes, forgot about that, no idea how much it is for though. Seen 20% to 45% touted, but either way it's a fair chunk of money for a player who was totally unproven in England last season. Seem to remember 40% being the rumour. If true I hope we keep him. £10m up-front would leave us £6.8m to replace him, with possibly £2.4m at some point down the line which may never appear, depending on the clauses. If we can get him to re-focus once the deadline passes I think it would be better to keep him. It won't be easy to find a replacement if Angers get that sort of cut. Depends on whether LJ can manage him if he throws his dummy when we turn down the bid(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: And the place doesn`t stink of rotten fish these days. Only when the wind isn't blowing in from Grimsby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol red Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Wow, Angers 45% sell on clause??Potentially over £5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 minute ago, bristol red said: Wow, Angers 45% sell on clause??Potentially over £5m. Don't think there's any legitimate proof of that. Would be stunningly high, I wouldn't be surprised if it was around 15-20% though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol red Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 I hope you are right. 45% seems ridiculously high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, bristol red said: I hope you are right. 45% seems ridiculously high. I would think 25% max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 On 19 July 2016 at 23:17, Scrumpy said: If he does go he won't be missed. Trust in the management either way. Wasn't well recieved by some when I posted the above. Beat Villa without him didn't we? He won't be missed and we'll cash in big time by the way things are looking. Trust what the management team do. Hopefully doesn't require a (re)re-repeat Kodjia - please sort things and either go or commit. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Wasn't there a French article stating 40% of the profit? 40% of 8m is about 3.5m. So 6.5m for us at a sale of 10m. That's still excellent business for us. Remember he isn't an LJ signing and I think Kodjia probably drives LJ a bit mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Maybe it's just me, but I cannot get my head around the idea that the best move for a player might be to where the highest wage packet is being offered and not a move to a club with let's say greater potential of staying in the top division and maintaining that level of pay packet for a longer time rather than risk having his wages severely cut in the event of relegation and I for one cannot believe that the nutter who owns Hull won't insist on that particular clause, the difference in wages being offered I suspect will be negligible in the grand scheme of becoming more wealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Might of already been posted and lost to me somewhere in the 41 pages! but interview after game with sky here and LJ clearly saying he may or may not go but contingencies are in place if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Maybe it's just me, but I cannot get my head around the idea that the best move for a player might be to where the highest wage packet is being offered and not a move to a club with let's say greater potential of staying in the top division and maintaining that level of pay packet for a longer time rather than risk having his wages severely cut in the event of relegation and I for one cannot believe that the nutter who owns Hull won't insist on that particular clause, the difference in wages being offered I suspect will be negligible in the grand scheme of becoming more wealthy. It's taking a chance on yourself though. Betting on yourself to score a few goals and get noticed elsewhere. If he scores a few for Hull and they're relegated he could keep his premier league wages. At our stage of development as a club, we will get a few mercenaries. That's fine if they perform. If Kodjia were to go he will have given us memories, helping stay in the league and a large profit. A couple more like that and we've got 20m to spend. Sad seeing players go but knowing what we know now, the club will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: It's taking a chance on yourself though. Betting on yourself to score a few goals and get noticed elsewhere. If he scores a few for Hull and they're relegated he could keep his premier league wages. At our stage of development as a club, we will get a few mercenaries. That's fine if they perform. If Kodjia were to go he will have given us memories, helping stay in the league and a large profit. A couple more like that and we've got 20m to spend. Sad seeing players go but knowing what we know now, the club will be fine. I don't really care about him going to be honest, because at the prices being quoted he is not really that good IMO, I agree about the our stage of development and I think our squad is looking exciting, if he goes hopefully 2 strikers will come in and the money in the coffers is a bonus but I disagree about your thoughts on a footballers thought process about a big money transfer, I think for many it's only about the money and always will be, I don't have a real problem with that but I would have thought that the difference is negligible to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Just been having a quick look back at 2013/14. Just under three years ago and around this time we were drawing 1-1 at home to Shrewsbury in one of our most abject performances I can remember at home. We`d been dicked 3-0 at home by Posh on the previous Saturday - I seem to remember a certain Lee Tomlin took us apart that day - and it was shortly after the infamous 5-4 v Coventry at Northampton. We didn`t win a game until the 4-2 win at Carlisle on 26th October (the JET show) and didn`t win at home until we beat Crawley 2-0 on bonfire night. If someone had told me then that less than three years later we`d be beating Aston Villa at home I would have laughed at them so progress indeed in a relatively short time. If memory serves, wasn't JET's hat trick up there a "perfect" one ie. left foot, right foot and header? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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