Monkeh Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 39 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I agree. There is also a part of me that says give it to Shearer or Wright, or both. We've seen how passion, busting a gut, team work etc worked for Wales, Iceland and Portugal, do you need a tactical nous manager? I'm sure many more of the other Nation's footballers understand the tactical side of the game themselves that they adapt during the 90. Our payers seem incapable of it. I don't get it....apart from our players must be being made to look better by their foreign counterparts. It's the only reason I can think of. it would also stop them whinging on tele when they get sacked for failing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 On 08/07/2016 at 07:47, Bullbag said: Annoys me the crap Little gets on here, he was quality before getting a nasty shoulder injury and now most are slagging him off. A player that will benefit from a full pre-season. The lad totally deserves our 100% backing. Once fully fit he is a player that could do very well under LJ. I wouldn't write him off yet. Stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Not sure how true the rumour is as it was via Twitter with small followers etc, however Norwich may be keen on Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 12 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: Not sure how true the rumour is as it was via Twitter with small followers etc, however Norwich may be keen on Matthews. Whether true or not, they can afford his wages and we can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Of course we can afford his wages. We had him on loan and we are still after him. If we couldn't afford him, he wouldn't be a target. norwich seem to be this years QPR targeting every other clubs targets. They must have a shoddy scouting network of their own. based on what we offered Matthews last season, I think we have a step up on Norwich regardless of wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 It's possible that the BFS for England pantomime is slowing this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: Of course we can afford his wages. We had him on loan and we are still after him. If we couldn't afford him, he wouldn't be a target. norwich seem to be this years QPR targeting every other clubs targets. They must have a shoddy scouting network of their own. based on what we offered Matthews last season, I think we have a step up on Norwich regardless of wages. I heard their scouts have gone on a mad summer bender & are just suggesting any player other teams want, so unproffesional from a team that's just gone down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: Of course we can afford his wages. We had him on loan and we are still after him. If we couldn't afford him, he wouldn't be a target. norwich seem to be this years QPR targeting every other clubs targets. They must have a shoddy scouting network of their own. based on what we offered Matthews last season, I think we have a step up on Norwich regardless of wages. Or maybe their scouts are doing their job & identifying the same decent standard of player that are available? And because of Norwich's recent history of being in the Premier League, they are in a better position to acquire these players as they can pay more in wages & offer a better chance of promotion due to the quality of their squad. There are going to be a limited number of players that fit all the criteria & a number of clubs are going to be after these same players. As has been mentioned with Sam Johnstone having 10 clubs interested in him & was also mentioned in our acquisition of Callum O'Dowda, that he was hardly below the radar as other clubs were interested in him & we are grateful to of got him. I'd hardly put it down to poor work or laziness on someone's behalf. We seem to be picking up on a few Bournemouth targets recently, is that us or them being lazy? Or just a fact that we both have the same criteria when looking to sign players? And of course the fact that we acquired their chief scout from them so our targets may cross but if Bournemouth beat us to any deals (Mousset) it's highly unlikely to be down to them being lazy but because they can offer a better career move in the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Didn't Norwich just buy a RB in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAlexD Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I already hate Norwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, ciderbeans said: Of course we can afford his wages. We had him on loan and we are still after him. If we couldn't afford him, he wouldn't be a target. It's possible we only paid a % whilst he was on loan. 1 hour ago, ciderbeans said: norwich seem to be this years QPR targeting every other clubs targets. They must have a shoddy scouting network of their own. What? 1 hour ago, ciderbeans said: based on what we offered Matthews last season, I think we have a step up on Norwich regardless of wages. Well, we don't. They're a far bigger club than us right now, with a better squad and probably pay bigger wages. They're a pretty realistic and attainable blueprint for a size of club we could be in a few years. Is this just bitterness over Canos? We won't always be first choice for players, that's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Didnt he want to be closer to south wales?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I believe the only thing holding up the Matthews deal is Sunderland. They still haven't signed a new RB and what with big Sam getting involved in England talks, everything has slowed down up there. I'm sure Matthews wants to return and I'm sure wages wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Who was Sunderland's right back last season? Doubt whether Sam takes the England job (god help us) will make much difference. I think Matthews will sign for us, but it will happen only days before the season begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 They had Yedlin on loan from Spurs I think, I honestly Matthews wants to play for city and wants to leave he just had to wait until a replacement for him is found. Just found any Norwich involvement interesting and may complicate it possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Re the wages situation I think we've been getting around this by offering a large signing-on fee rather than paying wages above our limit (I suspect this is what happened with Gary O'Neil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Well, if he wants to be nearer his family in South Wales, going to Norwich (this is down to one Twitter account with a few dozen followers) won't help. SW is bloomin' miles away from Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Re the wages situation I think we've been getting around this by offering a large signing-on fee rather than paying wages above our limit (I suspect this is what happened with Gary O'Neil) we offered O'Neil a 2 year contract Norwich would only offer a 1 year contract, thats why we signed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, ciderbeans said: Of course we can afford his wages. We had him on loan and we are still after him. If we couldn't afford him, he wouldn't be a target. norwich seem to be this years QPR targeting every other clubs targets. They must have a shoddy scouting network of their own. based on what we offered Matthews last season, I think we have a step up on Norwich regardless of wages. Just because we had him last season doesn't mean we can afford him next. He was a target - but at the right price. It's become clear the price now doesn't suit us because, believe it or not, things change - his wages, our scope to afford them now that we've signed 2 Premiership players and an international from Juventus etc. etc. We've correctly prioritised our spending on filling key positions in the spine of the team rather than on a Right back. This means there's less left in the budget now. You, me and the club would love to sign Matthews, I'm sure, but unless he's happy to take a pay cut it's unlikely to happen imo. More likely, we are saving our pennies for one more significant signing - a centre forward - and will try to find a full back who costs a fraction of any deal for Matthews. So it's a pity about him, but a sensible overall strategy, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 ....or loan him for a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Or perhaps that a certain MattRSp95, with a history of only 4 posts, knows absolutely nothing and is taking the proverbial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 8 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Of course we can afford his wages. We had him on loan and we are still after him. If we couldn't afford him, he wouldn't be a target. norwich seem to be this years QPR targeting every other clubs targets. They must have a shoddy scouting network of their own. based on what we offered Matthews last season, I think we have a step up on Norwich regardless of wages. I don't think he would go to Norwich as he wants to be closer to his native South Wales so we are a much better option for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I never said I knew anything? I was just saying it would be annoying if he went to Norwich. I rate Matthews is all I was getting at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, MattRSp95 said: I never said I knew anything? I was just saying it would be annoying if he went to Norwich. I rate Matthews is all I was getting at! 5 posts now, but this is what you said. ' Not sure how true the rumour is as it was via Twitter with small followers etc, however Norwich may be keen on Matthews.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: 5 posts now, but this is what you said. ' Not sure how true the rumour is as it was via Twitter with small followers etc, however Norwich may be keen on Matthews.' Sorry if I've annoyed you and yeah I'm aware of what I said I thought it was interesting and shared that I saw someone post Norwich being keen on Matthews. I never meant it as a rock solid rumour or that I know anything! I'm just reiterating someone's apparent news. Sorry if I only have 5 posts as well got to start somewhere haven't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: Sorry if I've annoyed you and yeah I'm aware of what I said I thought it was interesting and shared that I saw someone post Norwich being keen on Matthews. I never meant it as a rock solid rumour or that I know anything! I'm just reiterating someone's apparent news. Sorry if I only have 5 posts as well got to start somewhere haven't we? I am not annoyed in the slightest. I was just questioning your credibility - and I shall leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 35 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I am not annoyed in the slightest. I was just questioning your credibility - and I shall leave it there. I think he had just repeated something written on Twitter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 41 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: Sorry if I only have 5 posts as well got to start somewhere haven't we? Actually it is 6 now You keeping going - this forum always finds a way to pick on something irrelevant as a reason to belittle a post. A few years ago you weren't credited as a good poster unless you were a season ticket holder. Now it is number of posts - laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 What's happened here,we haven't signed anyone since yesterday and people are getting restless already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Apparently Matthews has been training with the under 21's after being left home from the squads pre season tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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