Admin phantom Posted August 10, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Super said: I was looking in the Kerrydale Street forum in the transfer thread section. Great quote 280 games at 24 year old and came through Arsenals youth team.I've seen worse rumours than Luke AylingHe does look like hes been mainlining heroin right enough.Decent wee quote on his wiki page Former Guardian sports writer Steve Claridge lauded Ayling for his "reading of the game, communications skills, organisation skills, aerial prowess, two footedness and use of the ball" in his scouting reports column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 55 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: SC's sacking was at best debatable imo., but that's water under the bridge, things move on, and I've nothing at all against LJ. I get over things like SC's sacking pretty quickly, it's all part of the ongoing BCFC story which continues to fascinate me. LJ's my 22nd City manager, so I obviously don't let personal feelings get in the way of getting behind the next one, or affect my support for the club. For whatever reason last pre season and most of the rest of the time SC was in charge last season was an absolute disaster. I have always believed that something went awry with his relationship with SL, I suspect that the truth is somewhere in the middle of any rumour circulating as usual and there was probably fault on both sides, we may never know the full truth and maybe it's better that way, SL took a calculated risk in the timing of SC's sacking and a further risk in taking on LJ, the one thing I am fairly sure of is LJ took over a dressing room that was still pretty much together making his life easier and a testament to the squads overall view of SC as their manager, I just think that they needed fresh ideas. I will never forget the previous 2 SC seasons, especially the promotion season my best ever and only championship in 58 years of support, but I feel his time at BCFC had sadly run it's course, I was sort of underwhelmed at the appointment of LJ but he has just as SC before him won me over, the little man has one big set of balls as his substitutions pay testament to, will he always get right? of course not but as the saying goes 'he who dare wins', there seems to be a coherent and feasible transfer policy at the club and an impressive backroom team, City seem to have momentum and belief. What I don't and will never understand is the vitriol that was and still is aimed at SC by some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: For whatever reason last pre season and most of the rest of the time SC was in charge last season was an absolute disaster. I have always believed that something went awry with his relationship with SL, I suspect that the truth is somewhere in the middle of any rumour circulating as usual and there was probably fault on both sides, we may never know the full truth and maybe it's better that way, SL took a calculated risk in the timing of SC's sacking and a further risk in taking on LJ, the one thing I am fairly sure of is LJ took over a dressing room that was still pretty much together making his life easier and a testament to the squads overall view of SC as their manager, I just think that they needed fresh ideas. I will never forget the previous 2 SC seasons, especially the promotion season my best ever and only championship in 58 years of support, but I feel his time at BCFC had sadly run it's course, I was sort of underwhelmed at the appointment of LJ but he has just as SC before him won me over, the little man has one big set of balls as his substitutions pay testament to, will he always get right? of course not but as the saying goes 'he who dare wins', there seems to be a coherent and feasible transfer policy at the club and an impressive backroom team, City seem to have momentum and belief. What I don't and will never understand is the vitriol that was and still is aimed at SC by some. Absolutely spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 I rate Ayling and think he could understudy Gary O'Neil as a holding midfielder as well as cover right back and centre half. But the question in my head is are we making room in the squad for a new, upgraded, replacement? Ashton and Johnson are looking to improve the squad and also the potential of the squad, hence the signings of O'Dowda and Brownhill, We aren't a club who can afford a big squad or wage bill. But by moving on decent players to release cash through a transfer fees and wages we may be able to sign talented young players who can play at this level and more importantly will improve year on year. Maybe the sale of Bolasie and the sell on fee we will get may ease that problem but that isn't cast in stone. I'll be sorry to see Ayling go but look forward to seeing who we sign to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 5 hours ago, Strawberry2157. said: No way would Luke ask to leave, he loves it here. Will be gutted to see him leave personally. Nope. He hasn't been happy for a few months. Flint isn't overly happy here either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Flint isn't overly happy here either. Tell us more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 48 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Nope. He hasn't been happy for a few months. Flint isn't overly happy here either. Quite a statement, we're all ears Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 50 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Nope. He hasn't been happy for a few months. Flint isn't overly happy here either. Shock horror, football club investing in better players upset the ones who are (maybe) affected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Andy082005 said: Nope. He hasn't been happy for a few months. Flint isn't overly happy here either. Missing Swindon, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Andy082005 said: Flint isn't overly happy here either. Because..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Tomlin joined us, remember, because Mark Little is his bestist mate. So Mark is No.2 No.2, and unfortunately, Luke must be sold (thus Flinty is not "overly happy." He's not unhappy either mind. Just a kind of somewhere-in-between plain "happy.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Dissapointed, a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, Woodsy said: Because..... He does n't want to play football any more he wants to be a .., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 on the verge of signing for Leeds. 3 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I was one of many on here who weren't happy with the prospect of LJ being appointed, but as I've said, I stated my support immediately he was. That hasn't changed. I think my concerns about squad harmony are valid, and would be the same with so many newcomers, and ongoing departures of established squad members, under any manager. Should I not voice these concerns just because LJ is the manager behind the changes? We were noted for our squad harmony and fear of upsetting it was one of the first things commented on by the incoming manager, so reasonable to mention this with all the changes, or not? As for having a problem with Kid, not particularly. He did go over the top though, imo, in that his ingrained and stated dislike of SC led to sustained criticism long before things turned sour. We have history of being on the opposite sides of the debate both on SO'D and SC, so we will be seen as 2 posters who historically often clash, but when he leaves out the personal stuff I generally rate him as a good poster. Sorry, I meant a problem with LJ not kid, should've been clearer. Of course, respect your right to an opinion on the squad harmony etc, it just doesn't really seem warranted in terms of how the squad appear. So its seems strange to criticise LJ for something that there doesn't seem to be any evidence of (unless Andy can enlighten us with the Flint claims)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just had a message of my mate who is a Leeds fan asking who Luke Ayling is and if he's any good. I've not read anything but he's saying rumour up there is that he's going to sign on a 3 year deal. Have I missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Yeh, about 3 threads discussing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 My bad, I've obviously just missed them, mods can close it or merge, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Tell us more? Did he get in a fight ? Summer nights . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 If he goes, would be disappointed. Solid player and likeable individual, with City 'DNA'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Ayling is a poor defender, his positioning is terrible, doesn't win a lot in the air, gives his man space to turn, is no good when players run at him and doesn't get back quick enough when he loses the ball upfield. He does have a few good games going forward when teams give him space to play, however in this league, those games are few and far between. Just my opinion but if people watch him closely I am sure a few more would be able to see what I can see. Will support him if he plays, as I would with any City player who is clearly trying, Ayling always gives 100%, but for me, just not good enough defensively. Out of interest, those who do rate him, what defensive qualities do you see in Ayling that I myself might be missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Quite a statement, we're all ears Andy. Just heard that both him and Ayling hadn't been happy since January and the exact words were , "they wanted out" Not more to tell other then that. He did confirm an complete breakdown between Cotterill and Lansdown but to be fair, I think that was pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, Spike said: Just had a message of my mate who is a Leeds fan asking who Luke Ayling is and if he's any good. I've not read anything but he's saying rumour up there is that he's going to sign on a 3 year deal. Have I missed something? are you in the pub with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just heard that both him and Ayling hadn't been happy since January and the exact words were , "they wanted out" January, eh? Thanks Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37039479 Celtic have just signed a right back from Rotherham; perhaps Ayling isn't so close to the exit? Also; what's all this about players "wanting out" and being disenfranchised? We didn't play like that the last six months, and being they've had a full summer to agitate for a move, not sure I'm of a mind to believe we're in bother here. Decent summer of recruitment, an opening day win, and our first 1st round League Cup win as a Championship club for donkey's years; can we be happy and anxiety free for five mins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just heard that both him and Ayling hadn't been happy since January and the exact words were , "they wanted out" Not more to tell other then that. He did confirm an complete breakdown between Cotterill and Lansdown but to be fair, I think that was pretty obvious. bet you heard that in a pub........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, samo II said: http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37039479 Celtic have just signed a right back from Rotherham; perhaps Ayling isn't so close to the exit? Also; what's all this about players "wanting out" and being disenfranchised? We didn't play like that the last six months, and being they've had a full summer to agitate for a move, not sure I'm of a mind to believe we're in bother here. Decent summer of recruitment, an opening day win, and our first 1st round League Cup win as a Championship club for donkey's years; can we be happy and anxiety free for five mins? Maybe you should read that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 We still have a smallish squad. Versatile players are very useful and Ayling in a really good player. Shame if he left but a three year deal at Leeds must be very tempting to any player at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just heard that both him and Ayling hadn't been happy since January and the exact words were , "they wanted out" Not more to tell other then that. He did confirm an complete breakdown between Cotterill and Lansdown but to be fair, I think that was pretty obvious. Flint needs to up his game if he wants to leave.. he only has a few weeks to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 8 hours ago, #roe said: So Stockhausen was right then.. Guess what? He wasn't.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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