downendcity Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: So, how can you be hung by it then? The phrase is hist by your own petard, not hung by your own petard ( atlas not when I've heard it) A petard was a bomb placed against castle walls or gates to blow a hole through. If you were too close when the petard went off you would be lifted up into the air i.e. hoist or hoisted by the explosion, hence the expression hoist by your own petard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, downendcity said: The phrase is hist by your own petard, not hung by your own petard ( atlas not when I've heard it) A petard was a bomb placed against castle walls or gates to blow a hole through. If you were too close when the petard went off you would be lifted up into the air i.e. hoist or hoisted by the explosion, hence the expression hoist by your own petard. I think it one of those phrase's that have got changed over the years, you know like "send us reinforcements we are going to advance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: Hate to complicate this (non Gustav topic ahem) but effect can also be used as a verb. Yes I know but it isn't used that often. I was trying to keep it quite simple. Now you've probably really confused the original poster or was that you. Now I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, citywest30 said: Yes I know but it isn't used that often. I was trying to keep it quite simple. Now you've probably really confused the original poster or was that you. Now I'm confused. Been a long day for all of us mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1891 B.C. Sweden Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 How about that Engvall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, 1891 B.C. Sweden said: How about that Engvall? Yeah how about him? Some tossers went and hijacked this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Who the **** is Engvall?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Who the **** is Engvall?? Even the \mods have to admit that was pretty funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 I was just reading the Gothenburg forum via Google translate, the jist of what I could understand was that they see it as a good move all round as his career has stalled for them over the last year. Sounds like they are in need of money too so happy to sell http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/ifkgoteborg/forum.aspx (chrome should offer to translate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Who the **** is Engvall?? He's back alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 If he passed the medical today the deal will be announced tomorrow. Engvall flew to England over the day to get back in time to prepare for the U21 national game (a) against Croatia on Thursday. First contact with IFK Gothenburg was after lunch time last Sunday when CIty made a bid. Gothenburg was on the coach to play Helsingborg. At the time the game started negotiations started and when the game as over a deal was already agreed. Personal terms also concluded. Gothenburg is similar in size to Bristol and will fit him well coming from Swedish Polperro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: If he passed the medical today the deal will be announced tomorrow. Engvall flew to England over the day to get back in time to prepare for the U21 national game (a) against Croatia on Thursday. First contact with IFK Gothenburg was after lunch time last Sunday when CIty made a bid. Gothenburg was on the coach to play Helsingborg. At the time the game started negotiations started and when the game as over a deal was concluded. Personal terms also agreed. Gothenburg is similar in size to Bristol and will fit him well coming from Swedish Polperro Is he a good player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: Is he a good player? He's got pace and is extremely direct. Well man managed in team with a good spirit he will come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: He's got pace and is extremely direct. Well man managed in team with a good spirit he will come good. He's not got the best goalscoring record, though realise he's young. Is he similar to Kodjia, or a different type of player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, samo II said: He's not got the best goalscoring record, though realise he's young. Is he similar to Kodjia, or a different type of player? I'll say he is more direct, If he can stay fit, and he is young, he will come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 34 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Who the **** is Engvall?? Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 I reckon if this Engvall lad signs, his nickname should be Tommy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, samo II said: He's not got the best goalscoring record, though realise he's young. Is he similar to Kodjia, or a different type of player? Look at Transfermarkt....his minutes played suggests subbed on or off a fair bit. 36 in 82 if you look at it a bit differently. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/gustav-engvall/leistungsdaten/spieler/248024/plus/0?saison=ges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Fee is £1.8m possibly rising to £2.69m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: I reckon if this Engvall lad signs, his nickname should be Tommy! I think Tommy and Tammy (and Tomlin) is Toomuch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 So are we saying this is a done deal then? Happy with that if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 This is the one I want. Seems like a player with good potential. This is the kind of player I want the squad full of. Young and hungry. Willing to learn the game and fight for their shot because if they get it, they could be worth £15m. Ridding the squad of the Williams, Ayling, and Agards and replacing with Moores and Engvalls. Sign Engvall and maybe a slightly more ready Kodjia replacement and we will be challenging that top 8 every bit of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 I´m sad to say that i don´t think he will be a good signing! But i hope i have wrong! He doesn´t start for Gothenburg and i think he has only scored 8 goals in 2 seasons! I have checked with some of the Gothenburg supporters i know and they are really happy for the money they got for him! But as i said before, i really hope i´m wrong! On the other side it´s nice to have a Swedish player in the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 We've got a Swedish international! Welcome back Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 And as i said before it´s a done deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, BCFC OF SWEDEN said: I´m sad to say that i don´t think he will be a good signing! But i hope i have wrong! He doesn´t start for Gothenburg and i think he has only scored 8 goals in 2 seasons! I have checked with some of the Gothenburg supporters i know and they are really happy for the money they got for him! But as i said before, i really hope i´m wrong! On the other side it´s nice to have a Swedish player in the team! Kodj hadn't scored many before coming here! No one can defend properly in England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm reserving judgement until we've seen him play. Seems like a gamble, but so did Kodjia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, Lew-T said: We've got a Swedish international! Welcome back Tommy. Are you short of striking options at International level then? Seems someone must rate him considering the number of caps at all levels so far? (sorry meant to quote BCFC of Sweden as below) I´m sad to say that i don´t think he will be a good signing! But i hope i have wrong! He doesn´t start for Gothenburg and i think he has only scored 8 goals in 2 seasons! I have checked with some of the Gothenburg supporters i know and they are really happy for the money they got for him! But as i said before, i really hope i´m wrong! On the other side it´s nice to have a Swedish player in the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Are you short of striking options at International level then? Seems someone must rate him considering the number of caps at all levels so far? (sorry meant to quote BCFC of Sweden as below) I´m sad to say that i don´t think he will be a good signing! But i hope i have wrong! He doesn´t start for Gothenburg and i think he has only scored 8 goals in 2 seasons! I have checked with some of the Gothenburg supporters i know and they are really happy for the money they got for him! But as i said before, i really hope i´m wrong! On the other side it´s nice to have a Swedish player in the team! I think they have been, they have relied on Ibrahimavich for years. With a solid midfield and defence to support him. Long gone are the days of dahlin brolin and larsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: This is the one I want. Seems like a player with good potential. This is the kind of player I want the squad full of. Young and hungry. Willing to learn the game and fight for their shot because if they get it, they could be worth £15m. Ridding the squad of the Williams, Ayling, and Agards and replacing with Moores and Engvalls. Sign Engvall and maybe a slightly more ready Kodjia replacement and we will be challenging that top 8 every bit of the way. "Ridding" is a bit harsh for really good servants in the three you mentioned. Not like they were taking a huge wage and taking the pi$$ were they. They represented a successful period in the club's history, and Ayling and Williams in particular contributed to last season's difficult Champ survival campaign....Agard didn't get much of a chance. I'm really optimistic for Moore, know bugger all about Engvall, and whilst I totally agree that this recruitment policy is bang-on, let's see how they settle in, and how they cope in the first team before flippantly disregarding the contributions of players who ultimately we've made a bit if money on too, which helps funds the Moore's, Engvall's, O'Dowda's, DeGirolama's etc. None of the three were holding a gun to the club's head about inflated contracts. The above isn't particularly aimed at you Joe, more that we "fans" should pay a little more courtesy to players who've done their best for our club. Ayling, especially was a real favourite with the fans, and made a huge effort with them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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