Offside Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Strange game. We were utterly dire in the first half and seemed to want to play at walking pace. In the second half we showed much more urgency, albeit leaving ourselves open to the counter attack. Great to get the win in the end. With Diedhiou facing a ban our striking options are becoming a worry with Rodri still settling and Semenyo looking off the pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Wasn't there but by the commentary and match thread Semenyo didn't look sharp again with his running which I find really odd. Big fam to the rescue again but he needs to learn to chill out. Hopefully Rodri made a good contribution? Semenyo missed a good chance of getting into the team i bet Rodri starts the next game his non stop running and link up play alone was impressive! Semenyo made a lucky inception and took a wild pop from 35 yards then pass to the on rushing players breaking with him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Notice a few in this thread have suddenly disappeared since we won, as for fams ref, you can see he’s going for the ball from the replays but he doesn’t connect so has to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, miketh2nd said: Afobe ..... did and did Rodri today ... I'm not so sure. Afobe's best work came from midfield rather than Wienmann, he created space for Afobe but through skill or outright energy.. I am not entirely convinced it's skill and it's more a byproduct of his stamina to get around the pitch.. I am not going to knock that, it's a great attribute, I just don't think it's a making of a partnership, it's more hit an miss rather than the telepathic striking relationship you want. . You maybe right re Rodri I will hold off that judgement until they have more games together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: How did they cheat? Did you not notice the constant being all over in specific Massengo Rodri and blocking weimann and other players off the ball ?? The most hilarious time wasting which actually shot them in the foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: You’ve missed the point entirely. Hey, it’s all tongue in cheek - the fact is, travelling away to watch the chaps has been a pleasure over the last season or so ... but watching the rubbish home performances over the same time period has just been tedious - we have only won 4 of the last 13 home games .. I know why that isn’t a cause for concern for some, because they, bizarrely, think that records rolling over from one season to the next somehow don’t count, but it concerns me ... that’s all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, TRL said: I'm not so sure. Afobe's best work came from midfield rather than Wienmann, he created space for Afobe but through skill or outright energy.. I am not entirely convinced it's skill and it's more a byproduct of his stamina to get around the pitch.. I am not going to knock that, it's a great attribute, I just don't think it's a making of a partnership, it's more hit an miss rather than the telepathic striking relationship you want. . You maybe right re Rodri I will hold off that judgement until they have more games together Fair enough i do agree at times it looks like weimann is playing by himself but for me next game we go back to 3 5 2 with palmer in behind Rodri and Weimann . I personally notice Weimann more effective when linking up with Palmer also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Rodeo looks like a real find. He played well with Fam too. Shame about the red but that happens and they were desperate to get the ref to do something. Enjoy the win. That was/could be a real season defining moment. And the bloke who said it wasn’t convincing earlier...wtf do you want. We are a team of reserves fourth in the championship. Now please shut up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, miketh2nd said: Did you not notice the constant being all over in specific Massengo Rodri and blocking weimann and other players off the ball ?? The most hilarious time wasting which actually shot them in the foot Yeh, but just pretty much ‘street wise’ stuff exhibited by most teams - it wasn’t cheating ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, miketh2nd said: Fair enough i do agree at times it looks like weimann is playing by himself but for me next game we go back to 3 5 2 with palmer in behind Rodri and Weimann . I personally notice Weimann more effective when linking up with Palmer also. To be honest we would both probably see a better player if he had a settled position and strike partner. So I am.probably doing him.a disservice Out wide. Up front by himself. Behind a front 2or as part of a front 2 I don't think he had ever had a settled position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Rodeo looks like a real find. Yeee haaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, TRL said: To be honest we would both probably see a better player if he had a settled position and strike partner. So I am.probably doing him.a disservice Out wide. Up front by himself. Behind a front 2or as part of a front 2 I don't think he had ever had a settled position I think at times weimann needs to be more selfish when he does have it in the final third . I think he is best running onto the ball or from deep with his pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezer Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Nice little point from Korey - Charlton making 2 subs already could mean we have a fitness advantage in the second half - maybe some late goals for us? I'd say you were correct in your assumption. @Robert the bruce What say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yeh, but just pretty much ‘street wise’ stuff exhibited by most teams - it wasn’t cheating ... If you call fouling when the ref isnt looking as streetwise alright i agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, TRL said: Wienmann will never link with anyone imo. He runs and runs and runs and finds himself way out of position to make an effective strike partner for anyone. You can't knock the work rate.. some may argue it's great team play, but if you are not linking up with your attack in a cohesive way... Is it really team play? I think that question needs answering as I think it is one of our biggest downfalls. Find it hard to criticise the guy. He always gives 100%. It’s for our management team, assuming that energy/attitude is worth a place, to find someone he can pair up with. Be interested in our training regime. Just don’t see that it’s something we work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Well another roller coaster of emotions that was and if any pass / finish deserved to win it that was it..... But once again we started slow and aloud them to put us on the back foot leaving huge gaps between our lines and this has to stop. Rodri is very intelligent and makes those runs behind we so lacked 1st half and I think if started Sunday could link up nicely with AW as we have a real chance Sunday to make a difference.... .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, miketh2nd said: I think at times weimann needs to be more selfish when he does have it in the final third . I think he is best running onto the ball or from deep with his pace. I agree. And this is why I don't think why he works with Fam. One runs from deep the other likes to be facing goal higher up the pitch. We don't have a back to goal player that can work off of his run from deep play and knock the ball back to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Charlton forum is gutted as you would expect. Most think they were the better team and and controlled the game. Stats say a different matter and Dave Kitson, who was commentating for sky said we were the better team. Without looking through rose tinted glasses, did we perform better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, miketh2nd said: If you call fouling when the ref isnt looking as streetwise alright i agree... Yep, I saw Alan Shearer loads of time play ‘live’ - he was an expert at doing stuff off the ball when the ref wasn’t looking, to gain an advantage - streetwise ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Didn't get to see the game, but looked at the BBC site on 56 minutes whilst 0-0 and it said we'd had 10 shots but just 1 on target? WTF, never mind anything else get them all in for shooting practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Without looking through rose tinted glasses, did we perform better? I wouldn't say Charlton had any spells of dominance so to say, but they did well in stopping us play for the first 50 minutes or so and pounced on opportunities as they arose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Rodeo looks like a real find. Yep, he looks one of the better chaps....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedRock said: Find it hard to criticise the guy. He always gives 100%. It’s for our management team, assuming that energy/attitude is worth a place, to find someone he can pair up with. Be interested in our training regime. Just don’t see that it’s something we work on. Agree. It's hard to drop someone who gives so many positives. But we do lose something as a team although gaining in other ways. As an attacking unit I think his play ruins us. As a physical high stamina player he gives us other attributes and knackers opposition players. We have to learn to utilise him better imo. If he is starting he should be running opposition into the ground for 65 mins then he should be replaced to continue the attack against a knackered defence. It seems to me he stays on for the 90 mins often moved out wide or dropped in behind a front 2. I am not sure it's the right tactic I don't think he has good crossing ability or the guile for the killer pass for the later options. Hey ho what would I know work in IT. There is a reason Johnson is manager and I'm not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Disappointment, then moderate satisfaction, followed by unbridled elation. My emotions following each change of score. Can't beat a last minute winner, especially when you're down to 10 men! Well done, and a damn good turnaround and 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Rodeo looks like a real find. Bucking the trend then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 I enjoyed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Great result, obviously. Charlton are going to cause problems for a lot of teams this season. Impressive for a newly promoted side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Wednesday play Leeds on Saturday, WBA have Charlton at home. Think WBA will win but any result from the other gives us the chance to go 3rd, a draw would open the door to go 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Couldn't see the sending off incident very well from my perch in the Dolman, but the reaction of the Charlton players sugested it was bad. Just seen the highlights and frankly Fam's behaviour was disgusting and certainly warrants a 3 game ban. Not sure what was going through his head. Why we didn't play with the energy and commitment in the first half that we showed in the second half I'm not sure. Palmer certainly made a difference and Rodri is showing some promise, especially if we can find him the right strike partner. Semenyeo doesn't look as if he's really quite up to championship level yet. Strong performances by Williams and Moore again in central defence and Bentley saved us several times. Tommy Rowe is doing much better than I expected now and I can see his defensive qualities improving too. Andi Weimann put in his usual 100% shift, though did not seem quite as effective as his effort would suggest. All in all, a great 3 points, but at half time, I was thinking that this was going to be the start of another great LJ losing run. 2nd half it was a totally different performance after the substitutions. Imagine if we had a fully fit squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: You’ve missed the point entirely. …. as did Lee Bowyer and Charlton Athletic ! YAY ! COYR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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