REDOXO Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: Yeee haaw! Yeah predictive text! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, downendcity said: Bucking the trend then. Predictive text is a pain But love these responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: Yep, he looks one of the better chaps....... Now that was funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, TRL said: For my mind if you start Elliasson you start Fam. They are made for each other. But Johnson seems to play Elliasson when he drops Fam. It seems crazy to me.. he must see something different in training. What I see in match play they are made for each other swing the ball in a on rushing Famara, who competes against a rushing back defender against a vicious in swinging cross... It's a no brainer to me Eliasson gonna be off the field for 3 games then ! 4 hours ago, Frenchay Red said: Disappointment, then moderate satisfaction, followed by unbridled elation. My emotions following each change of score. Can't beat a last minute winner, especially when you're down to 10 men! Well done, and a damn good turnaround and 3 points. As i read through the thread this morning, as I always like to do without knowing the score i would rate the majority of posters' emotions more like this.. Slagfest, Finally and Bezwerk. So why was COD, by most accounts, so poor, why is Semenyo starting and why would the best player in Eliasson be subbed? All of the above irrelevent because we won as LJ will rightfully attest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Very good that we took all the points. Good for confidence, thinking on Luton game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, REDOXO said: Predictive text is a pain But love these responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySnapper Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Big news when it happened, there was wall-to-wall coverage at the time. Was there an underlaying reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 11 hours ago, REDOXO said: Rodeo looks like a real find. He played well with Fam too. Shame about the red but that happens and they were desperate to get the ref to do something. Enjoy the win. That was/could be a real season defining moment. And the bloke who said it wasn’t convincing earlier...wtf do you want. We are a team of reserves fourth in the championship. Now please shut up! 11 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: Yep, he looks one of the better chaps....... 10 hours ago, downendcity said: Bucking the trend then. I thought he did well in the mane. I notice someone referred to him as “Rhodri” might as well give him the nickname “Morgan”! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Interesting that Johnson commented on the criticism he would get for taking Elliasson off. He didn't need to read this thread to know that, but he seemed to think he had a tactical rationale getting the full backs forward?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsey Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Tre Bong said: The cat just shat himself! get in! Mine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Wonderful goal and 3 points. 98 min, 10 man does it makes more nice. Really hope we also win sunday. Famara for me is the warrior among our forwards. He will be missing in 3 games. Probably Rodri instead of Fam. Smodicz and Watkins are also fit. Watkins not played many games for City, but he have scored twice for us I think. Or maybe LJ give Semenyo another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, mozo said: Interesting that Johnson commented on the criticism he would get for taking Elliasson off. He didn't need to read this thread to know that, but he seemed to think he had a tactical rationale getting the full backs forward?! He did. Our fullbacks play quite high up anyway, and Charlton were having a degree of success with their diamond. So he matched us up with a diamond too. As our midfield was narrower this suits Eliasson less, but our full backs could still push on and wouldn't be occupying the same space as a winger when they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Lew-T said: How in the hell are we 4th, one win from top spot? Because everyother team in the top half is going " we're rubbish. How come we're 1st / 2nd / etc". Sometimes it's better looking from the outside in rather than looking at our own 'issues'. In a $h!t league the least $h!tiest wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 To be honest, Johnson's amazing tactical success had more to do with Charlton being happy to try to sit on a one goal lead, than our shape on the pitch. After he made the double sub, we were still being overrun, as with Massengo looking tired and DM never being Brownhill's strong suite, we effectively had no midfield. The ball went from their final third to our final third as easy as pie. It's only after they scored and took their collective feet off the gas, so to speak, that we started getting forward. And I'm glad to say, the sending-off actually fired us up even more. I wish it hadn't happened, but clearly the players felt aggrieved and reacted by going all out. Sendings off can demoralise the whole team. Last night's didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: To be honest, Johnson's amazing tactical success had more to do with Charlton being happy to try to sit on a one goal lead, than our shape on the pitch. After he made the double sub, we were still being overrun, as with Massengo looking tired and DM never being Brownhill's strong suite, we effectively had no midfield. The ball went from their final third to our final third as easy as pie. It's only after they scored and took their collective feet off the gas, so to speak, that we started getting forward. And I'm glad to say, the sending-off actually fired us up even more. I wish it hadn't happened, but clearly the players felt aggrieved and reacted by going all out. Sendings off can demoralise the whole team. Last night's didn't. We were battering them for the last 20 minutes of regular time. They got a few chances on the break, but they were far from overrunning us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said: We were battering them for the last 20 minutes. They got a few chances on the break, but they were far from overrunning us. Read my post. I wasn't talking about the last 20 minutes. I was talking about the period of time between changing formation and their goal. They then sat back too much, trying to hold on for a win, then a draw and paid the price for timewasting and negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: Read my post. I wasn't talking about the last 20 minutes. I was talking about the period of time between changing formation and their goal. They then sat back too much, trying to hold on for a win, then a draw and paid the price for timewasting and negativity. Even before their goal we were on top. They scored after a clearance off the line then a swift counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Read my post. I wasn't talking about the last 20 minutes. I was talking about the period of time between changing formation and their goal. They then sat back too much, trying to hold on for a win, then a draw and paid the price for timewasting and negativity. I think it was a mix of sitting back and literally running out of gas. They had nothing to offer at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: I think it was a mix of sitting back and literally running out of gas. They had nothing to offer at the end. They were dead on their heels before Fam was sent off even. Think I recall LJ saying there are things we can't control, but one we can is fitness. If I have that right then we saw the benefits of it last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: I think it was a mix of sitting back and literally running out of gas. They had nothing to offer at the end. True. The two forced substitutions in the first half probably didn't help them freshen their side up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 13 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Fair enough, I apologise, I just think the big home defeat vs Leeds counts ... Leeds a very good side albeit certainly not infallible at this level and tbh points to dominance ratio is too low for them- I wasn't expecting much joy vs them and so it transpired. Probably should have 6 pts more based on baseline performance levels. We got outnumbered centrally much too often that day and while it wasn't necessarily decisive, it certainly was important IMO- we're in a much healthier position now, partially through signings and tbh things have gelled very well given all the signings, let alone injuries. 3-2-1 is not a bad home record- Played Leeds, played surprise packages in QPR, Charlton, played Swansea- all 4 of whom are in and around the top 10. People say 2nd half was poor v Reading and it was, but they've just beaten Preston and drawn at QPR- NO easy games! Well that's not fully true but mostly no easy games then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: To be honest, Johnson's amazing tactical success had more to do with Charlton being happy to try to sit on a one goal lead, than our shape on the pitch. After he made the double sub, we were still being overrun, as with Massengo looking tired and DM never being Brownhill's strong suite, we effectively had no midfield. The ball went from their final third to our final third as easy as pie. It's only after they scored and took their collective feet off the gas, so to speak, that we started getting forward. And I'm glad to say, the sending-off actually fired us up even more. I wish it hadn't happened, but clearly the players felt aggrieved and reacted by going all out. Sendings off can demoralise the whole team. Last night's didn't. It was a combination of both RR. Them sitting back and LJs decision to tweak our formation. Had LJ not changed things we’d have lost the game. City were all over them in last 20mins or so. What is concerning is why LJ set up with two wide men leaving our midfield wide open as you saw. Hopefully he won’t be doing that again any time soon....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbored said: It was a combination of both RR. Them sitting back and LJs decision to tweak our formation. Had LJ not changed things we’d have lost the game. City were all over them in last 20mins or so. What is concerning is why LJ set up with two wide men leaving our midfield wide open as you saw. Hopefully he won’t be doing that again any time soon....... I was there. I do know we were all over them in the last 20. I did see the multiple off-the-line saves and blocks they were forced to do. However when Fam and Rodders came on, we still faced 10 minutes or so when most of the danger was to us. After their goal (62 minutes), tiredness as @Numero Uno and complacency from Charlton were our two big helpers. One thing you can say about the side we have now, we rarely give up. we keep coming. Agree about the midfield. I remember Pack playing game after game last season and his form getting worse and worse as he got progressively more tired. Our injuries are putting Massengo and Brownhill in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: After their goal (62 minutes), tiredness as @Numero Uno and complacency from Charlton were our two big helpers. One thing you can say about the side we have now, we rarely give up. we keep coming. Agree about the midfield. I remember Pack playing game after game last season and his form getting worse and worse as he got progressively more tired. Our injuries are putting Massengo and Brownhill in the same place. With Nagy and Smith both injured the midfield cupboard is bare RR. What choice does LJ have with only Palmer, Massengo and Brownhill as viable midfield options? Some posters argue that Massengo should be ‘rested’ but how is that going to happen with so few available midfield options? Maybe that’s why LJ started with two wingers last night................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbored said: With Nagy and Smith both injured the midfield cupboard is bare RR. What choice does LJ have with only Palmer, Massengo and Brownhill as viable midfield options? Some posters argue that Massengo should be ‘rested’ but how is that going to happen with so few available midfield options? Maybe that’s why LJ started with two wingers last night................. We've never really addressed our midfield deficiencies. Palmer plays some exquisite passes, but he loses the ball a lot and isn't much help to the defence. Obviously, we didn't factor for Nagy being injured for so long, but I wonder whether there's a young player able to step up to give HNM some respite? Does anyone who watches the U23s know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: We've never really addressed our midfield deficiencies. Palmer plays some exquisite passes, but he loses the ball a lot and isn't much help to the defence. Obviously, we didn't factor for Nagy being injured for so long, but I wonder whether there's a young player able to step up to give HNM some respite? Does anyone who watches the U23s know? Bakinson?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: We've never really addressed our midfield deficiencies. Palmer plays some exquisite passes, but he loses the ball a lot and isn't much help to the defence. Obviously, we didn't factor for Nagy being injured for so long, but I wonder whether there's a young player able to step up to give HNM some respite? Does anyone who watches the U23s know? Dunno. You can't legislate for Smith's rolling injuries and Nagy's situation too. Palmer I agree, not a CM. CAM, a '10' but not a CM as such. Defence isn't his strong suit! If only we'd kept one of Walsh, Morrell or Pack- competition, depth and the ability to play a 3 centrally without needing to shift Rowe and unbalancing the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just watched the highlights again, does anyone else think that in the build up to their goal the ball actually hits the Charlton players arm,whilst he goes down holding his face,he then glances up to see his team mate sprinting down the pitch,and suddenly makes a miraculous recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said: Just watched the highlights again, does anyone else think that in the build up to their goal the ball actually hits the Charlton players arm,whilst he goes down holding his face,he then glances up to see his team mate sprinting down the pitch,and suddenly makes a miraculous recovery. Yes, thought so too having watched it back a bit earlier. Question is, was it handball or ball to hand- mind you they keep shifting the rules on when to penalise or otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: With Nagy and Smith both injured the midfield cupboard is bare RR. What choice does LJ have with only Palmer, Massengo and Brownhill as viable midfield options? Some posters argue that Massengo should be ‘rested’ but how is that going to happen with so few available midfield options? Maybe that’s why LJ started with two wingers last night................. Rowe? O'Dowda centrally? Palmer? Szmodics? There are options. There just aren't like for like replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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