Where is our CEO...who is he?

[milo1111]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Ta.

Yep, especially when he’s backed and backed and backed previous “regimes”.  It doesn’t sit well with me either.  I’m very disappointed, that after all the hard work he chooses now to constrain the football club.

(Those are by understated feelings!)

Let’s be honest Dave , the only managers he has really seriously backed (financially and it terms of losing matches)  at this level have had the surname Johnson. 

[Cidre Monita]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I guess there’s a fine balance between probing away and the interview being curtailed / edited.

I think the Lansdown tentacles spread a lot wider and deeper than we thought within the Bristol sporting media. From the interview comments it sounds quite clear that we are now in a managed decline with our 70 year old local billionaire owner having no intentions of ‘going for it’. This regime need to be made aware the fans will no longer accept them holding us back. This club and city are waiting to explode with some success and it’s so frustrating. 

[cidercity1987]

I dread to think what is going to happen without Pearson and without a new owner. Lansdown has totally and utterly lost the plot, surrounded by non entities such as Alexander and his walking 'argument for increasing Inheritance Tax' son

I am ashamed to say I have been a big supporter of Steve in the past but he is in big danger of the whole fanbase turning against him

[Antman]

3 minutes ago, RedRock said:

While highly appreciative of what Steve has done and understanding his view that he’s put and continues to put £millions into the Club so he sees himself, quite justifiably, as the ‘main man’ this CEO interview just reinforced the Club’s ‘you’re customers, not fans’ approach. 
 

i will say it again, (and this is something i have said for many years now.)

The reason he HAS to put money in is to bail out the problems he himself has overseen and in large part created.

Why should I be appreciative of that? He treats the whole club as his plaything/business. (remember how he asked us all for money to buy a brick / buy a share, then locked everyone out and tried to buy 100% of it?) but he is just a custodian of the club.

his faux modesty (but has bloody great name on the stand) also grates (while we're piling on )

Well #### him, i have my 3 shares and i'm not budging......(thats a joke BTW)

Remember the Tony Thorpe/Sorenson/ Akinbiyi adventure, Benny Lenartson anyone? SL was across all that and did the same thing then - illogical and badly placed spending, followed by relative non performance on the pitch - followed by a fire sale and a Tony effing Pulis.

he did it with Wilson, followed by Tins

and of course Johnson, followed by Holden

we have seen endless yo-yo spend/ miser seasons from SL. its depressingly familiar.

 

I also don't get the sense he will sell to anyone sensible, he wants a good return and that i fear, means someone with more money than sense. That Chelsea bloke anyone? (Todd whatsit) the way he has structured Bristol Sport also makes it harder IMHO

 

 

 

[Bristol Rob]

Haven't listened to the interview yet, but I will do, but I do have the following... 

Firstly, I will always be grateful for the money SL has thrown at the club.

Secondly, a huge amount of that money was likely lumped in the direction of the club, because people were pulling the wool over his eyes, which is a shame.

Thirdly, stepping back and having the wool pulled over your eyes means you need a trusted member of your team to represent you in all key areas, he did that with Junior. Unfortunately, Junior doesn't exude an air of competence (another poor appointment?).

Fourthly, we are (almost) on the cusp of turning the over funded, journeyman retirement home in to a mecca of youth and experience, with a manager who has reduced costs, lost his best talent and given the lack of available funds, worked wonders. His reward, no acknowledgement.

Any sale of the club isn't going to happen with an expensive manager on a 3 year deal, but make it less obvious.

Time for EVERYONE to roll the dice on what they want to do next.

[Lew-T]

14 minutes ago, RedRock said:

If, as he stated, he knows nothing about potential new investors (thought that was his specialism), very little about the Arena project and has not apparently engaged with Nige on an extended contract, for a Club CEO this isn’t just a bit worrying, it’s friggin alarming. Something’s, amiss here.

I thought the same.

Pretty simple questions really in the scheme of things for a CEO.

[Superjack]

10 minutes ago, Street red said:

Beggers the question what's the club paying the CEO to do on a daily basis seems to me hes knows sod all.

He probably knows the lot. 

But he can only say what he is told.

[Mr Popodopolous]

6 minutes ago, milo1111 said:

Let’s be honest Dave , the only managers he has really seriously backed (financially and it terms of losing matches)  at this level have had the surname Johnson. 

Gary had significantly more bang for his buck than Lee tbh. Spend to position ratio.

That said no FFP then and maybe wages in general were lower so swings and roundabouts but Gary Johnson was IMO significantly superior at the end of the day to Lee Johnson.

[Superjack]

8 minutes ago, milo1111 said:

Let’s be honest Dave , the only managers he has really seriously backed (financially and it terms of losing matches)  at this level have had the surname Johnson. 

What's that World Snooker Champion from 1986 doing nowadays?

[Antman]

1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said:

 

Firstly, I will always be grateful for the money SL has thrown at the club.

Secondly, a huge amount of that money was likely lumped in the direction of the club, because people were pulling the wool over his eyes, which is a shame.

 

same thing again...

and really? REALLY? you think he has been led astray? the guys a control freak, if he has a more robust board and less compliant employees i think it would have been better all round.

I cannot agree (not that it matters or you give a ****

[Shauntaylor85]

9 minutes ago, milo1111 said:

Let’s be honest Dave , the only managers he has really seriously backed (financially and it terms of losing matches)  at this level have had the surname Johnson. 

Bang on. Surprised Uncle Pete still isn’t with us, what a joke!

[Harry]

17 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

Surely this interview only confirms everything SL said in his. In other words

 

, SL does not believe we can compete with parachute funded clubs (unless we call ourselves Luton) , so will not fund doing so.

The club will therefore need to look to sell players for say £25M each year to cover running costs,

Above £25M , what football makes , football can spend.

Therefore our plan going forward is simply to buy players with “potential “ from the lower leagues, develop them, and sell them on coupled with a few Championship grafters to ensure we stay up.

Which pees me seriously off

You’re barking up the same tree as me GC. 
This was my initial thoughts after listening too. 
But, having thought about it, it seems crystal clear that we have a very strict wage budget and we’re not budging on it. 
TGH was not in the plan. But, after the Thomason (Bolton) and Murphy (Ireland) deals broke down, perhaps this left enough in the budget to bring in TGH. 
 

If that’s not the case, then why did we not use the money left in the budget that we were prepared to spend on those 2? 
 

SL has said for 20 years that he wants the club to be able to sustain itself. Looks like he’s finally seeing through that promise!!! 
Problem with that is - no other club in this division is sustainable. So we’re behind the curve. 
If he doesn’t want to invest then he needs to get out. 

[Street red]

The one thing that actually boils my p*** is we have a manager that wants this club in the prem that has worked his nuts off to get our club out of this softly softly mentality been ill during this time and has brought on one of the most talented midfielders I've seen wear a red shirt but all we get is a owner that wants to be like Luton!!  Honestly I couldn't feel more cheesed off!!

[Shauntaylor85]

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Gary had significantly more bang for his buck than Lee tbh. Spend to position ratio.

That said no FFP then and maybe wages in general were lower so swings and roundabouts but Gary Johnson was IMO significantly superior at the end of the day to Lee Johnson.

Both incredibly limited hence why no bigger club has ever taken either on in any capacity. Cannot manage big players. 

[Superjack]

1 minute ago, Street red said:

The one thing that actually boils my p*** is we have a manager that wants this club in the prem that has worked his nuts off to get our club out of this softly softly mentality been ill during this time and has brought on one of the most talented midfielders I've seen wear a red shirt but all we get is a owner that wants to be like Luton!!  Honestly I couldn't feel more cheesed off!!

I think there is a lot of boiled piss at the moment. 

 

[nellie]

bloody hell its way worse than i thought 

[Street red]

Just now, Superjack said:

I think there is a lot of boiled piss at the moment. 

 

Your not wrong.

[Mr Popodopolous]

7 minutes ago, Harry said:

You’re barking up the same tree as me GC. 
This was my initial thoughts after listening too. 
But, having thought about it, it seems crystal clear that we have a very strict wage budget and we’re not budging on it. 
TGH was not in the plan. But, after the Thomason (Bolton) and Murphy (Ireland) deals broke down, perhaps this left enough in the budget to bring in TGH. 
 

If that’s not the case, then why did we not use the money left in the budget that we were prepared to spend on those 2? 
 

SL has said for 20 years that he wants the club to be able to sustain itself. Looks like he’s finally seeing through that promise!!! 
Problem with that is - no other club in this division is sustainable. So we’re behind the curve. 
If he doesn’t want to invest then he needs to get out. 

Sheffield Wednesday look at being relatively sustainable these days, I reckon Rotherham absolutely. Maybe Huddersfield?

Unsure how many others, yet we might be ahead of the curve with it on one level as supposedly thete is due to be a new mechanism about wages and amortisation to turnover. We are going too early on it however if it is a factor but the Rick Parry has railed against the benefactor model in recent times.

Norwich are usually quite sustainable but time will tell. It's quire rare either way. Watford are talking about sustainability but who knows post Parachutes if they stay down.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Jose]

Well the positivity from Saturday lasted long. Anything achieved this season will be in spite of SL not because. 
 

 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Jose

[2015]

Just listened and I have to say I miss Richard Gould

Bloke could barely even remember some of the players names.

[fisherrich]

26 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Well one thing is clear, if SL were to lower the drawbridge once NP has been sent on his way, and he brings in somebody for ‘image’ to splash then that will be me done until SL sells up.

I’m sick and tired of his incompetence.

Yep, me too. Fed up with the bull shit from Lansdown & Co. No connection with true fans - just a punter.

[spudski]

27 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Or alternatively

If you’ve decided to raise the drawbridge ,which PA made absolutely quite clear he has 

And you are going to run on a strict budget , ok

Now we need a manager who can manage with a small squad , develop youngsters , and keep us competitive ........ who’s as good as it gets out there to do so at this level ............hmmmmmm

A good sensible owner making the financial decision would sit down with NP , level with him , praise the job he’s done , accept the scenario not perfect , and ask him if he would plough on .....

 

The raising of the drawbridge is imo...the wrong dicision. 

What he's asking of NP or any manager come to think of it, is suicidal imo. 

With so many long term injuries to players, and the likelihood of others being injured between now and January, then he's playing with fire. 

He wants to be competitive and even expect top half finish...with such a depleted squad because of injured influential players...it only takes a few more knocks and we are screwed. And we all know there will be injuries...it's part of football. 

 

[Bristol Rob]

6 minutes ago, Antman said:

same thing again...

and really? REALLY? you think he has been led astray? the guys a control freak, if he has a more robust board and less compliant employees i think it would have been better all round.

I cannot agree (not that it matters or you give a ****

I think we are broadly in agreement, might have taken me a bit longer to get on board with a few of the posters..

We are being primed for a new regime, how that pans out, mystery.

Just have to hope that SL is more attuned to investment conversation than some of the footballing one.

It strikes we that now is an optimum time to invest in the side, and we haven't. It's maintenance rather than improvement.

[Superjack]

1 minute ago, spudski said:

The raising of the drawbridge is imo...the wrong dicision. 

What he's asking of NP or any manager come to think of it, is suicidal imo. 

With so many long term injuries to players, and the likelihood of others being injured between now and January, then he's playing with fire. 

He wants to be competitive and even expect top half finish...with such a depleted squad because of injured influential players...it only takes a few more knocks and we are screwed. And we all know there will be injuries...it's part of football. 

 

Exactly. And who will pay the price?

 

Disgusting.

[Harry]

1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said:

Spot on

People like Tony Bloom stuck to plans and actually had a plan

Overcorrection is a perfect summary

£10 on red.......damn

.....£10 on red.......damn

.....£10 on red.......damn .... that Brighton blokes gone black the last 3 times......

£10 on black.......damn....

Getting fed up with this .... that Brentford Owner looks to be raking it in on the blackjack table......I’ll have a bit of that........

 

PS If somebody bumps into Steve , just say

‘Blimey Steve imagine if you hadn’t had your pants down and wasted millions and millions under Ashton, backing a lame horse as a personal pet project , just think what a good situation we’d be in now with such a good manager steering the ship ‘

Yep. Great post. 
And basically what I’ve been saying for years. SL lurches from one philosophy to another, each less and less successful and more and more expensive than the next!! 
Luton is now his desired model. 
Previous to that it was Brentford. 
Prior to that Brighton. 
Prior to that it was Swansea. 
Leicester, Southampton etc etc. you name it - if they’ve been promoted to the Prem with any semblance of a decent plan or philosophy, they’re charging up Lansdown’s pole like a rat up a drainpipe. 
 

I don’t think hardly anyone agrees with the way football is financed, it’s a ridiculous notion where money is pumped and pumped and pumped into overpaid players and fans are fleeced etc. 

But, it is the way it is and it ain’t gonna change anytime soon. The rules allow you to lose up to £39m over 3 seasons. 
We’ve been close to it over the last few years mainly because of a shit philosophy. 
If SL thinks he can keep up with the Joneses in this division whilst trying to be self-sustainable he’s in for a shock. 
Championship clubs with Premier ambition need to be funded as close as is possible to the allowable loss limits. 
If he doesn’t want to throw away £13m per year any more then he needs to leave and find someone who does. 
 

I honestly can’t believe our owner and ceo are in the camp that the Luton model is the one we need to follow. It’s very telling and very sad too. 

[fisherrich]

33 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

Surely this interview only confirms everything SL said in his. In other words

 

, SL does not believe we can compete with parachute funded clubs (unless we call ourselves Luton) , so will not fund doing so.

The club will therefore need to look to sell players for say £25M each year to cover running costs,

Above £25M , what football makes , football can spend.

Therefore our plan going forward is simply to buy players with “potential “ from the lower leagues, develop them, and sell them on coupled with a few Championship grafters to ensure we stay up.

Which pees me seriously off

Can’t help feeling sorry for ST holders. Feels like fraud!

[Bristol Rob]

Against (my own disappointment and recognition that we are seeing an entirely different approach), we do need to remember that they cash going in does belong to SL. AND he hasn't turned off the tap completely.

We remain solvent.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Bristol Rob
Peroni

[nellie]

Just now, fisherrich said:

Can’t help feeling sorry for ST holders. Feels like fraud!

this is it say we don't give a toss but only after we have your money 

 

[nebristolred]

Can't say too much above what's already been said, aside from the fact that with NP here, this feels like a huge missed opportunity. And it probably wouldn't feel quite so bad if we hadn't previously massively backed other less-talented and less-proven managers. But we now have someone in as manager who has previously had a huge part in building a PL-winning squad, and we've gone and stopped the funding. Of all times, this just feels the worst.

It's SL's money, it's his prerogative. It just feels like a huge missed opportunity, that's all.

[2015]

It p***** me off that all the backing and support Lansdown gave the Johnsons and the two men (Cotterill and Pearson) who dug us out of their financial mess they left us he refused/refuses to actually support. 

He showed us his colours before in a GT interview this is 'my club' and I think there is a power struggle going on right now between the board, Lansdown and NP. 

He will only support the Managers who don't have the back bone to stand up to him and Jon, because it's 'my club and I'll do what I want' kind of attitude.