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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

His best was “Vince Harper - 6’2” likes a tackle”.  Anyone who’s actually seen Harper play would know that he’d never seen him.

I like Tins attention to detail too.  I get the impression him and Nige are very aligned.

That certainly comes across, I think there are many questions about Pearson but his acceptance to use younger players and invite them to train with the first team is positive. Personally I believe it to be one of the main reasons he’s still here he can see the talent that’s here and is probably excited (well as excited as Pearson can be!!)

4 hours ago, Sheltons Army said:

Interesting point and it did cross my mind when he was talking about them (Anyone whose seen them together in U23s can see how they work so well together ) but 

Firstly it would probably be difficult to find a club , and the right club , to take them both.

And it would probably do their long term education better , to play with different partners , and in different ways - I didn’t realise they’d played together so long , and their friendship or understanding won’t wane if separated for a while - it would likely make them even more potent, with some extra knowledge, when reunited.

Tinnion really is a square peg in a square hole isn’t he - Very level headed , and has a great understanding and vision as to how these young players should be developed , each individually to a evolving plan

Really interesting times - we’ve had the odd batch of promising youngsters over the years but I’m not sure we’ve had a potential assembly line over several age groups as we appear to have now .

We have struggled for most times to achieve the transition to first team football with many but that transition now appears to be planned and managed so much better.

Some of our most promising youngsters in previous years also fell away , not because of natural ability (We have had some absolute diamonds ability wise) but through lack of desire or dedication required.

What I really was encouraged by , in what Tins had to say , more so about the ability coming through , was his glowing comments about their attitude , and desire to learn - That really is a green light for me 

Loved a couple of Tinnions down to earth comments, giving an insight into how he looks after attitudes , such as ‘They are playing in Championship for Bristol City , they will play where they’re told’ (With a chuckle) 

Agree it would be difficult to find a club willing to take on both, but just question whether the club would look at it as an option. Your comment about different partners is a a very valid one and will certainly improve their respective games playing with different players and styles. 

23 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Excellent , interesting Podcast

Certainly the most interesting from all the Pods over the season for me - Thankyou

We have been able to see the exciting and interesting pushing through and in U23 performances and listening to BT , unless he’s embellishing the potential , which anyone knowing him will know he’s not , we really do have a high number of young players , pushing at various degrees towards the first team.

Not only that , it appears to be , not just one small batch who come together in an age group occasionally, but groups / batches of scholars , new pros , etc that have the potential to be first team players

Still a road ahead for all of them , but very encouraging and something for fans to keep an eye on ,enjoy , and anticipate over the next 5-7 years.

It would appear that our academy / scholar recruitment has been better , and more efficient than our first team set up over the last few years !

Nice one , very enjoyable listen

The futures bright ......the futures RED

COYR

Listened this morning , and agree with the comments above really interesting to hear from ‘Tina’ more for me about the type of players coming through. Thank you @3 Peaps In A PodCast

One for debate maybe, if we’re looking to see Bell and Conway as our future front two and certainly sounds like both will be out on loan next season at some point. Is it worth sending them to the same club to get more experience of playing together in league / non league football?

2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Are they not due to meet Final game ?

Stockport play Halifax on Sunday 

5 minutes ago, TomF said:

Can’t see the Leeds manager being there start of next season 

Hope he is

9 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

The way Brighton are playing at the moment Leeds will be lucky to touch the ball. 

3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Brighton are a very decent team & Brentford are no mugs 

They’re not, but both nothing to play for, personally think Leeds are more likely to pick up points in last couple of games than Burnley. Burnley play spurs (going for top 4), Villa who beat them 3-1 on weekend and Newcastle)

6 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Can’t really see past Leeds now. Ayling and James wanting an early end to the season and now Harrison ******. Couldn’t happier to a weirder fan base

Add in Phillips and Raphinha really got a discipline issue / loss of heads

12 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said:

Ha !

0-1 and down to 10 men inside 20 mins 

Exactly my thoughts , their awful but may get enough points last two Brighton & Brentford 

Think Leeds might get a result tonight

1 minute ago, headhunter said:

Bakinson has the physique and ability that Marvin Elliott had if only he applied himself. That said, Elliott's first season was his best he wasn't so good thereafter.

Elliott’s problem were unfortunately injuries 

2 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

That makes more sense. I was trying to find Graham's post on Massengo .

He tends to agree with you anyway

7 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Good summary @daored

Is that my post you're referring to or Graham's around Massengo's understanding of the game?

I think it’s yours !!! Giving credit to the wrong poster

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I think there are so many facets of development.  Is developing your body to cope with the rigours of playing regularly at this level something we choose to include or ignore in evaluating his development.  For me, he’s pretty robust now.  But that might not be important to some.

Thats just an example.

Plus you’ll know I don’t generally think in terms of “best eleven”, “first choice / fifth choice” type stuff. My thinking is we have a squad of players, hopefully with a few exceptions at either end of the ratings scale, that are all pretty capable.  We can all pick our line-up for a match, but there are so many variables including form, injuries, opponents, etc, that what you go with one game might be very different the next.

On that last point, you might argue Massengo is 4th/5th choice, others might argue our best midfield this season was Scott and Massengo.

Your “regression” is my “inconsistent”.  

But it’s all about opinions.  Discussing those opinions in a sensible way is when OTIB is good.  Dull place otherwise

2 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said:

@Davefevs

You and I have spoken about Massengo; and I've taken on board your feelings on him as a player.

I understand your points around the type of European coaching that Massengo has had that leads to his style of play.

The issue for me, is that like say Nagy; Massengo has talent, but maybe it's not suited to either the English game; or potentially NP's way of doing things.

He's been here 3 seasons now, and played in close to 100 games for City. I thought after the Millwall second half, and Preston game that he might have turned a corner; but he seems to have regressed again.

You are completely right about goals/assists are not the only indicator of success. But it would be interesting to hear what fans think with regard to  what ways Massengo has actually developed/improved in those 3 years. Because, with Scott potentially moving back into CM next season, Massengo would only be 4th/5th choice for me in that position.

 

Glad this topic has turned into a debate about the  quality of a player with valid points from both sides.

So for me HNM does not give us goals or assists and for many a midfielder should, but what he does give us is energy and legs , especially when playing with the likes of James. He needs to improve on his understanding of when to hunt the ball and when to keep the team shape, but that has to come from coaching and to a certain extent being talked through a game by a senior pro. @GrahamCas you say he’s played close to 100 games so he should have a better understanding of then to chase and when to keep the shape. 
Agree with @Davefevswe simply can’t judge a midfielder by goals of assists, midfielders have different roles in the team. Oh how got a Marvin Elliott now who could do both!!

4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Well done Wycombe like there manager. Don’t like MK

Would definitely like him as our manager. What he’s done with Wycombe is fantastic on such a small budget in comparison to other league 1 clubs. Certainly weren’t disgraced in championship last time 

45 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Imagine the content represents the commercial value in producing it.

Agree , but if the club were to consider producing a paper programme again (I don’t think they do) the content has to be massively improved 

3 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

I just cut and pasted the summary from the website.

Fair enough , read as your comment / personal view 

3 minutes ago, kiwicolin said:

Not everyone has Internet or phones or computers. 

If the club is to bring back a match day programme the content has to be much improved. Considering the current programme is a download the quality, content is extremely poor especially as the costs to produce this must be relatively small 

8 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

I didn't make the 'crocodile tears' comment.

Your post:

and was it crocodile tears from HNM at the final whistle as he said his goodbye to the fans.

3 hours ago, maxjak said:

I need to listen to this!  First i have heard of Benarous's'  ACL, THAT is sad news.  Can HNM be blamed for wanting to improve his career, get better coaching, and play within a higher grade of abilities?  It is extremely unfair to accuse a 21 year old of crocodile tears, when he   obviously has affection for the club....but quite reasonably wants to play at a higher level and be ambitious.  HNM could supply the funds to overhaul our very average midfield, which would be a great legacy for him to leave?.   He has never got a consistent run in the side, and was often switched position, so taking that into consideration,      i think he has performed well.  More knowledgeable coaches than you or I are willing to pay comparatively big money for him, so THEY can obviously see what he can eventually achieve..........I wish him all the very best, and believe he can leave with his head held high...............anyway off to this podcast...Ha!  

Completely agree on your comments about HNM. @Curr Avonplayers can be sad at leaving a club, maybe HNM feels he has outgrown city and feels for his career best to move on , despite liking it at the club and being happy living in Bristol. I think the comment of ‘crocodile tears’ extremely disrespectful and ignorant. Have you never changed employer, where a new employer offers better benefits,  wherever that be more income, working pattern etc but been sad to leave your current employer?

Please remember how young HNM was when he came to us, a new country, a new language possibly away from family and friends. I’m sure a number of people at the club both playing and non playing have helped him settle into the club and Am

Not everything is as black and white as you obviously want to portray it 

38 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

I can’t see any of the 3 teams winning anymore games apart from Everton beating Watford, which would keep them safe, and Burnley would stay up via GD meaning Leeds down.  Will see what happens!

Think Burnley have the toughest run in 

Just now, 22A said:

Jeff Stelling; "Just look at all those Bristol Rovers fans. They turn up in numbers every week".

There is a sky love in, think they’ve mentioned a couple of times of 10K crowds

15 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said:

To someone from outside of Bristol, this will sound very state-of-the-art, based on being mis-informed that your club is owned by a multi-trillionaire.

Imagine that !  A Stand that can have it's capacity extended simply by th press of a button. The mind boggles. What will they think of next?

However, the reality is, it's just about how many deck/patio-chairs are still in usuable condition and how they are set out by the trafficked labour supplied to the evil fake Sheik, and his side-kick Madame Irene by local gang-masters from Horfield and surrounding cesspits.

Reminds me of that well-known saying "re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic". 

Very appropriate for a club constantly going down or (very likely once again) staying down.

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Is there any truth to the rumour that your team is being led out onto the pitch tomorrow to the strains of the theme music from "Steptoe & Son"?

You should blame the guy who requested something from the Rag 'n' Bone Man repertoire.

What a load of rubbish !

 

 

I think Rovers base a sell out on the number of tickets they’ve sold, not the number of tickets available !

11 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Got up here at 4. Started to rain at 4.30. Now it’s pouring down. Welcome to Yorkshire! 

Yep it’s an awful evening !!

20 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Rat and Ratchet, 40 Chapel Hill, Huddersfield, HD1 3EB, https://www.ossett-brewery.co.uk/our-brewpubs/ about a 10 minute drive from the stadium.

 

Sportsman, 1 St. Johns Road, Huddersfield, HD1 5AY, http://www.beerhouses.co.uk/pub/the-sportsman/ a five minute drive from the ground

 

Star, 7 Albert Street, Huddersfield, HD1 3PJ, http://www.thestarinn.info about a ten minute drive from the ground.

 

King's Head 18 St George’s Square, Huddersfield, HD1 1JF, https://www.facebook.com/kingshead.huddersfield/ a decent real ale pub.

 

The Head of Steam St George's Square, Huddersfield, HD1 1JB, https://www.theheadofsteam.co.uk/bars/huddersfield has decent recent Trip Adviser reviews

 

The Cherry Tree 14-18 John William Street, Huddersfield, HD1 1BA, Wethespoons

 

The Boy and Barrel 11-15 Beast Market, Huddersfield, HD1 1QF

 

The Parish 28 Kirkgate, Huddersfield, HD1 1QQ

 

Would add to that list magic rock is a decent pub in town centre

Safe trip all, Huddersfield is my local game. If anybody needs advice on food or drink places let me know.