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Just now, VT05763 said:

Derby could very well still finish above us this season.

 

We played well though didn’t we?

Just now, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Get that recency bias is a thing, but surely worst ref in a very long time. 

Since Arpul Singh?

3 minutes ago, 054123 said:

I rarely post anything like this as usually City are bad enough, but the ref is losing this game now. Shame.

Just this.

Between that Austin and the ref it’s quite something to see this evening.

I rarely post anything like this as usually City are bad enough, but the ref is losing this game now. Shame.

2 minutes ago, GTFABM said:

It’s a booking and very very stupid by him. But the reactions of some people (throwing things) is pathetic especially as it’s happened only recently. Some players love to be the villain and to be boo’d, austin maybe felt his side got played off the park for 45 mins and wanted a hostile atmosphere to perk them up. Either way 1-1 was not a fair reflection in that half so lets go get the 3 points then hopefully that celebration won’t be the biggest talking point and take away from what was probably the best 45 mins in months

Don’t disagree.

5 minutes ago, GTFABM said:

No got a 3 week old baby at home so missing a few games but i can tell you i have never felt incited or felt like throwing a bottle. 

That’s fair enough.

Ive been going for 35 years and haven’t seen behavior like it from a player.

2 minutes ago, GTFABM said:

Exactly that. 

Didn’t happen though mate 

Just now, GTFABM said:

Does it matter? If you can’t handle a player scoring a goal and not get so upset you have to throw something or feel like he is “inciting” you then football is not for you

You’re not here are you?

Just now, The Gasbuster said:

But has Austin been getting any stick ?

I have not heard any.

Hes like that *** Callum Robinson who goads us for no reason.

None what so ever.

They haven’t done anything all half.

1 minute ago, JBFC II said:

Isn't it a yellow for inciting the fans? Austin has made himself look like a right ***** there 

Complaints apparently already in. 
 

I don’t think I’ve seen anything like that.

Have I missed something?

Im all up for pantomime but that’s was ridiculous.

7 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

call total bullshit.

The Dutch version?

Looking forward to picking a copy up

9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

A £20m overspend? Are we sure @054123

Let's see, my relatively loose calculations so far.

2019/20 and 2020/21 combined.

£48m is the combined loss and I'm rounding, can look in more depth another time but..

1) For all clubs this is added and halved due to Covid. A - £24m starting point.

2) The cited Covid losses were £11m? I don't know if this covers solely 2020/21 or both seasons.

3) I estimate our FFP allowances to be £5m per season.

Thus that's a £14.5m loss potentially as the starting point.

On the flipside, furlough of £1.6m is non recurring revenue?

£6m in Transfer Profit not recurring- but hasn't the wage bill been cut by 30% this season?

Those players who departed, amortisation was saved in a lot of cases. Two who Ieft were resigned on lower terms- Baker and Weimann. 

Not saying that I think we're guaranteed to pass but unsure we can spend with relative freedom until 2023/24 barring big player sales.

Never sure @Mr Popodopolous thats your job

My job is to worry until you or @Davefevstell me not to 

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

With @Hxjsuggesting FFP allowances of £6m p.a. (Not £3m) then that’s £9m less to worry about.  Hopefully cost cutting will continue sensibly, and we get income levels back up.  My figures still have covid allowances to take off.

But you’re right 21/22 to 23/24 will be the 3 sets of accounts that have no Covid allowances.  If we haven’t reset by then, we deserve a kicking!!

Get income around £30m, costs around £45m and we will be fine…and not reliant on selling off players out of necessity.  

Phew!

Panic over

Just to cycle back to @Davefevspost, 2022-23 we are looking at FFP breaches unless something drastically changes as 3 yr cycle losses will be £60m?

Barring Alex Scott turning out to be a wunderkind and being sold for 20m, how can we realistically avoid this? 

58 minutes ago, gl2 said:

The Lansdowns have got us to.....just where we were about 50yrs ago......good effort....not.

I would broadly agree with this. I started watching in the mid eighties and roughly the the first 18/20 years were very similar to the last 20 years.

A couple more seasons in Div 2 I’ll grant you, but essentially a couple of football league trophies, a couple of promotions from Div 3 and a league cup semi, in both periods.

Gary Johnson did reach a playoff final.

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

The principle is that under Lansdown and Ashton we have reached the position we have.

Yes, Steve has the pockets to make up for the  mistakes and duly does so.

Thank goodness for that.

39 minutes ago, 22A said:

It was my 20th birthday and in the afternoon City gave me a birthday treat and in the intervening years, I've never had any gift so pleasing as this. Stood on the Open End, as each goal went in friends were shaking my hand and wishing me a happy birthday.

 

That was enjoyable

I think we’ve been as bad and struggling like this loads over the last 40 years.

I think that there is so much focus on the football through more media, both social and corporate, that it’s seems more engrossing.

Try to not over think it

Yes!!!!! 
 

**** you pantomime 

I’m off to the pantomime.

I loved Martin Scott

1 hour ago, Abraham Romanovich said:

If we are in a bit of a pickle with our finances rest assured that a lot of other clubs will be far worse off.

It is a buyers market and there is bound to be some golden opportunities

I only hope our recruitment team have identified some potential stars from the lower leagues.

A few more Albert Adomah 's wouldn't be a bad start to the new year

This will be the interesting point. Certainly not every club, but far more than usual.

What a sorry state of affairs.

50 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

The prices are shocking but let’s just be clear about one thing: you don’t “need” to buy kids £6 burgers.

Absolutely. £6 at the newsagent buys a kings ransom of treats!